Today's drive to Tan Hill was OK...

No doubt we will have another run up that way. The roads are great fun, great landscape too. Need to leave earlier and stop for a big lunch somewhere decent.

I am going to have to have a run out there myself if nobody else is going soon. It's been too long!

Just a bit rubbish that the window for daylight is now so poor!

I expect so - though not sure when I am going next.

Why not just organise a run? Meet up with a few blokes in cars, head off to Settle, head for Hawes, take Buttertubs pass, head to Tan Hill, then return via Arkengarthdale, Gunnerside, Aysgarth, Buckden and Grassington.

Take a camera. Have fun.

Fair enough. When the weather gets a bit warmer we can head here...

I've starting to get interested in another run out. I organised 3 or 4 a few years ago when I had the puma, but stopped doing them as I felt I was pushing the little puma past what I was comfortable doing (usually the least, or at least close to, the least powerful car on a run) trying to keep up with the likes of Al in his testerossa - very very nearly put it in a hedge with a scary "I shoudln't have lifted on that crest" moment once.

Since I've had the big barge (ST220 estate) I don't think it really suits a run. What I would like is a fast spirited drive, driving quickly at say 7/10ths and just pushing on nicely. The thing is I can push myself too fast when I'm on my own, and with a bunch of others I may well end up getting back to pushing too hard again. Might give it a crack though as those roads are very nice!

I know what you mean there, as soon as you're leading there is this subconscious imperative to "put on a good show" which takes a surprising amount of self-awareness to control I've found, or fail to control in some instances!

Anyway, I'm itching for a run out but a combination of busy weekends and constantly stty weather has stifled me so far and probably will continue to do so until after Christmas.

Anyone ever done a group run in the dark?? I could manage an evening. Done plenty of quality drives on my own in the dark, not sure how'd they translate to a group though.

It's crap at this time of the year as by the time it's light it's quite late and the roads fill up at weekends.

Now I live up into the Dales proper it's amazing how quiet the roads are on a week day vs the weekend, even in the middle of the day it's pretty dead.


In summer you'd just get up before work and have hours for hooning on empty roads during the week!


I'm not sure I'd want to do night driving though. Too many randoms walking dogs or cycling in their dark clothes without lights on a night around these parts

This is the joy of been on a one or two car run.

The odd car is easy to pass and you just go at your own pace