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slf2012

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308 posts

146 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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There's been a few threads on this over the years, but as the telecoms market changes so quickly, I thought I'd ask about the current set up.

Wife and I are heading to Nice in about two weeks and need to get internet set up in our apartment.

There has been an internet/telephone connection there before, so it should just be a case of getting it set up again.

I understand we are best to deal with Orange (formerly France Telecom).

Can someone tell me how quickly I can get the internet set up, and if there are likely to be any hurdles to overcome (for example, do I need a french bank account, and does this take two weeks while the internet takes one day, that sort of thing)?

Secondly, can I apply for the service prior to arriving there, or would I end up bashing my head against a brick wall?

I'd appreciate if anyone can give me advice on this.

Thanks in advance!

lowdrag

12,877 posts

213 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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I can't speak for the installation times these days, but knowing France I wouldn't count on instant service. They managed to transfer my line to someone else for a few days and casually said it was an "understandable" mix-up and refused any compensation. You'll certainly need a French bank account and usually a utilities bill etc. as proof of identity and address.

rdjohn

6,167 posts

195 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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You can also speak to someone in English, on Monday, by using this number 0033 969 36 39 00 Be prepared for a wait getting through.

France Telecom seem pretty efficient. If yours is a holiday home you can call them and easily suspend the services when you are absent.

A French bank account will be non-negotiable, that can be done easily by using https://www.britline.com from Credit Agricole.

slf2012

Original Poster:

308 posts

146 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Thank you both for the replies. I don't expect it's going to be too quick - even in the UK it can take a week or so.

I shall try to call France Telecom on Monday morning.

Thanks again!

PottyMouth

470 posts

196 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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France Telecom and Orange are one and the same.

I pay 80 euros per month for fibreoptic broadband, unlimited mobile, and unlimited landline. Not the cheapest offer on the market, but has not let me down yet (touch wood!).

Driller

8,310 posts

278 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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I'm with Free, €30/month free international calls included. Very reliable.

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

164 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Another thumbs up for FREE very good service if a bit slow in a very rural area miles from anywhere!

Edited by mad4amanda on Saturday 17th January 23:05

Fatt McMissile

330 posts

133 months

Saturday 17th January 2015
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Driller said:
I'm with Free, €30/month free international calls included. Very reliable.
I'll second that. Don't forget the included sim card that gives you 60 minutes/month French calls, and further sim cards at 2€ each!

Steve

Driller

8,310 posts

278 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Fatt McMissile said:
Driller said:
I'm with Free, €30/month free international calls included. Very reliable.
I'll second that. Don't forget the included sim card that gives you 60 minutes/month French calls, and further sim cards at 2€ each!

Steve
Good shout, my wife has Free mobile too: €16/month for unlimited calls and internet!

Orange/France Telecom is a total ripoff, I use them for work and am thinking of changing to Free.

My iPhone 5s cost me € 350 with an Orange payment plan. My sister in the UK says Orange give you the phone for free!

slf2012

Original Poster:

308 posts

146 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Thanks for all the helpful replies so far.

It sounds like Free could be the way to go. Can anyone tell me if they have stores in Nice that we can go in to and sort the account out? If we need to do it online, it's a bit of a catch 22 situation!


Driller

8,310 posts

278 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Here you go:

http://www.free.fr/freecenter/

There's one in Saint-Laurent-du-Var just west of Nice

smifffymoto

4,545 posts

205 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Another advantage with Free is you are not bound into a contract and can cancel at any time if you want to.


If it's a holiday home,with Orange you can switch you line off by contacting them so only pay for the months you have it turned on.A friend did this in Ariege and didn't have to many too problems,although it wasn't always plain sailing.

Geekman

2,863 posts

146 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Free mobile have been utter, utter crap for me. Yes, they're cheap, and it's good to not be in a contract, but the signal is shockingly bad, even in areas where you'd expect it to be good. Even on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice, it was switching from full signal to no signal every few seconds, which I suppose is an improvement from it's usual no signal whatsoever status.

When you do have signal, the internet speed is incredibly slow on 3G, and the 4G coverage doesn't seem half as good as Orange.

I'm leaving France in a few months so I'm just going to put up with it, but if I was staying here full time I'd definitely have switched to one of the more expensive providers as it definitely seems that you get what you pay for.

Fatt McMissile

330 posts

133 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Free are a relatively new player in the mobile market and have been installing aerials at a fair old rate. Before Free arrived on the scene French mobile charges were a joke, despite the Bouygues/Orange/SFR cartel being fined millions by the government for price collaboration.

They do have aerials on the bay and inland at Nice, but currently far fewer than the established players. Given the others need so many aerials to service the town, I wonder if is a capacity problem rather than signal strength? I don't know if that's how it works - I'm only guessing - but I have noticed that at home I often get an "emergency service only" notification throughout weekends, on both Free and Orange.
Many of us permanent Brits have twin sim phones, I have Free and Asda (EE which defaults to Orange in France) but I don't do data, most of our usage revolves around finding each other in the supermarket and texts to our kids......

There are maps of the aerials in France here http://www.antennesmobiles.fr/

Personally I find the coverage pretty good considering the size of the country, and am as often disappointed in the UK as I am in France.

The OP asked about ISP's of course, and we have had no problems with that service, the first 60min/month sim card comes included at no charge with that service and extra ones are 2 euros/month, so for light users like us it was a no-brainer.

Steve

slf2012

Original Poster:

308 posts

146 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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I thought I'd post an update on how we got on with our efforts to set ourselves up with internet and telephone in Nice.

We tried to set up a bank account, but most banks weren't interested, on the basis that "most British people only set up bank accounts to pay for telephones and internet, etc" (not sure where they got that idea!) and it wasn't worth their time and paperwork to set up and manage the accounts.

We talked to Orange and they told us we could have a no-commitment unlimited internet and telephone package with calls to 101 countries throughout the world for 40 Euros per month. No bank account was needed, so we got that set up.

They told us a week to get the connection live, it went live within 2 days.

With regards to the telephone calls to different countries, my wife had a problem calling relations in Asia, so we reported this to Orange. I thought it was probably a problem with the number my wife was dialling, but apparently not. Orange did something and the problem was fixed. They then refunded us 40 Euros for the inconvenience!

All in all, very happy with Orange and the service provided, I'd wholeheartedly recommend them.

NorthDave

2,364 posts

232 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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slf2012 said:
No bank account was needed, so we got that set up.
How do you pay for this then without a French account? Would they do it from a visa card?

slf2012

Original Poster:

308 posts

146 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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Yes - we went in to the local Orange store and explained our situation. They gave us all we needed to get set up and told us we would be live within 6 days.

We paid an amount there and then - I think it was around 49 Euros - and were surprised to go live within 2 days. The package we have is Livebox Play + TV, and includes a landline package.

They send us bills monthly by both post and email. We have now set up a direct debit, but we could pay with a credit card if we wanted.

The banks were very reluctant to open an account for us, apparently because a lot of expats just use the account for paying utilities, and the throughput doesn't make it worth their while. Most didn't even talk to us, but Barclays were happy to set an account up for us.



leyorkie

1,639 posts

176 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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Have you tried Credit Agricole Britline. They specialise in accounts for. .... You guessed it Brits!

Expatloon

215 posts

157 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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Nice to see Orange getting a bit of deserved credit as opposed to the usual institutionalised generic slagging.

They may not be the best but are a very long chalk from being the worst.