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Reardy Mister
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E30M3SE
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Can't help on the dealer, have no experience, but, I think you'll find this with many E46 M3's, they're at that sort of age now and imo there is nothing fundamentally wrong with Specialist S/H.
The dates of the services should give some indication as to whether your theory holds any water.
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Cheib
6,232 posts
44 months
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Looks to me like that is a sole trader operating from his home. All the cars pictures are taken in front of a house, "viewing by appoitment", mobile contact number and no building number for the address......a quick look on Google maps and it looks to be a residential road.
So they should be cheaper than anywhere else as I suspect if anything goes wrong you'll find you're dealing with an individual and not a company. That said they look to have some stock but they could easily be sale or return.
Spend literally a few pounds checking up on them at companies house...oh you can't as thre is no company of that name.
Erm..........
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Reardy Mister
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Cheib said: Looks to me like that is a sole trader operating from his home. All the cars pictures are taken in front of a house, "viewing by appoitment", mobile contact number and no building number for the address......a quick look on Google maps and it looks to be a residential road.
So they should be cheaper than anywhere else as I suspect if anything goes wrong you'll find you're dealing with an individual and not a company. That said they look to have some stock but they could easily be sale or return.
Spend literally a few pounds checking up on them at companies house...oh you can't as thre is no company of that name.
Erm..........  Hmmm.... It would be nice to know who the Specialist is. My feeling is that all these cars recent specialist service will have been done at the same place. Why are they all due one? Repo's? Can I get a BMW Warranty on this one for instance? http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3705268.htmIm guessing they would need to inspect it at a dealer and then tell me if they are prepared to warranty it and for how much per year?
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E30M3SE
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Reardy Mister said: Hmmm.... It would be nice to know who the Specialist is. My feeling is that all these cars recent specialist service will have been done at the same place. Why are they all due one? Repo's? Can I get a BMW Warranty on this one for instance? http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3705268.htmIm guessing they would need to inspect it at a dealer and then tell me if they are prepared to warranty it and for how much per year? Yes you can, although a Comprehensive BMW insured warranty will be best part of £2k with 0 excess and breakdown cover) as the car has done over 60K miles. It would not need to be inspected at a dealer, you would need the stamped service book and it would be helpfully if you have the invoice for the specialist £3K service in case of future claims. If you get the VRM for that car you can go on BMW's warranty website and get quotes of warranty cost with differing levels of cover and excess.
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Reardy Mister
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E30M3SE said: Reardy Mister said: Hmmm.... It would be nice to know who the Specialist is. My feeling is that all these cars recent specialist service will have been done at the same place. Why are they all due one? Repo's? Can I get a BMW Warranty on this one for instance? http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3705268.htmIm guessing they would need to inspect it at a dealer and then tell me if they are prepared to warranty it and for how much per year? Yes you can, although a Comprehensive BMW insured warranty will be best part of £2k with 0 excess and breakdown cover) as the car has done over 60K miles. It would not need to be inspected at a dealer, you would need the stamped service book and it would be helpfully if you have the invoice for the specialist £3K service in case of future claims. If you get the VRM for that car you can go on BMW's warranty website and get quotes of warranty cost with differing levels of cover and excess. Thanks for the info. So in reality, Id be as well to try and find one with a) less miles or b) an approved used? By the time Ive slapped 2k on that (assuming thats per year!?), I might as well try for approved used. Im only doing 6kmiles a year. Id be up for 33p per mile just in warranty. Maybe I have underestimated this M caper..... :|
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E30M3SE
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With an AUC you will get at least 1 years warranty, but you will (probably) have to pay for the second year, if the car is over 60K at that point you will be in the same boat.
Some warranty costing ( a cut&paste from the CSL Register, this is for continuation of an existing warranty, there is a small premium for a lapsed warranty renewal iirc. ),
Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £690
Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £835
Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £951
Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £612
Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £757
Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £873
Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £590
Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £706
Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £798
Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £512
Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £628
Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £720
Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £474
Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £557
Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £623
Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £396
Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £479
Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £545
For cars over 60k miles
Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1535
Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1926
Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £2235
Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1457
Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1848
Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £2157
Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1266
Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1578
Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1826
Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1188
Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1500
Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1748
Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £880
Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1081
Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1240
Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £802
Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1003
Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1162
{url]BMW Insured warranty|http://www.bmw-warranty.co.uk/Pages/Home.aspx[/url], for the difference levels of cover available and whats covered.
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Reardy Mister
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E30M3SE said: With an AUC you will get at least 1 years warranty, but you will (probably) have to pay for the second year, if the car is over 60K at that point you will be in the same boat. Some warranty costing ( a cut&paste from the CSL Register, this is for continuation of an existing warranty, there is a small premium for a lapsed warranty renewal iirc. ), Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £690 Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £835 Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £951 Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £612 Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £757 Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £873
Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £590 Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £706 Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £798 Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £512 Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £628 Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £720
Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £474 Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £557 Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £623 Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £396 Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £479 Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £545 For cars over 60k miles Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1535 Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1926 Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £2235 Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1457 Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1848 Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £2157
Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1266 Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1578 Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1826 Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1188 Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1500 Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1748
Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £880 Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1081 Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1240 Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £802 Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1003 Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1162 BMW Insured warranty, for the difference levels of cover available and whats covered. Great stuff. Bookmarked. 
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Reardy Mister
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Update: He lists his Address in Green Lane, Hindley Green, Wigan on his website. http://www.sjspecialistcars.co.uk/docs/contact.phpI street viewed the whole of Green Lane, no similar house. But there is a street that looked like it might hide a house like his. In fact, he lives in Dorstone Close, which is a road off Green Lane. number 14 I would say. He might be legit, but if so, why all the smoke and mirrors? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....
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Cheib
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44 months
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Reardy Mister said: Cheib said: Google is your friend http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=397...Interesting thread....one bloke on there who bought from him what sounds like a dog and then a mystery first poster who popped up and said he'd had a great experience. Barge pole.............a very big one at that too. Good find. Definitely barge pole for me. Further, there is a mention on that site of a Williams F1 M3 variant. The post is dated January last year. As luck would have it, he is currently selling "another" example of this particularly rare car..... Sounds to me like he gets people on the hook with his multiple adverts and probably actually only has one or two actual cars. Or maybe not even that and once he has someone interested goes and looks for a similar car when he has the enquiry. Only needs one or two mug punters a month and he can make a tidy little sum.
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PJS917
780 posts
117 months
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I looked at a couple of SJ specialist cars. He does appear to be a sole trader, from his house in a nice residential avenue. He is a pleasant chap with a good stock, the reason for appointment only is his stock is spread out at various locations so needs to ensure the car you want is available.
His stock comes from BMW dealers and was clean and well (if over) prepared. He has also been around a while so must be doing something right.
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mr sagman
816 posts
105 months
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I spoke to him recently, He seems a nice enough guy and seemed very knowledgeable particularly of M cars, However the car I was enquiring about a black CSL which was on his site (and still is.. Or was a week or so ago) Had been long sold he told me, That was around feb/march time, Think he leaves sold stock on his site to generate interest/ calls, Shame as I was gonna potentially purchase the CSl as it looked a cracker.
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evolution666
308 posts
104 months
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mr sagman said: I spoke to him recently, He seems a nice enough guy and seemed very knowledgeable particularly of M cars, However the car I was enquiring about a black CSL which was on his site (and still is.. Or was a week or so ago) Had been long sold he told me, That was around feb/march time, Think he leaves sold stock on his site to generate interest/ calls, Shame as I was gonna potentially purchase the CSl as it looked a cracker. echo this. I called him saturday about the oxford green convertible, same story, advertised on here, a long time sold. seemed like a pleasent guy. I would not have a problem buying a car from him, just do all the usual checks you would with any other car and follow up the service history. The question that was being asked was has anyone had any dealings with the named company, it wasnt an invite to speculate on his possible shadey business (assome have put it) for gods sake.
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Reardy Mister
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evolution666 said: mr sagman said: I spoke to him recently, He seems a nice enough guy and seemed very knowledgeable particularly of M cars, However the car I was enquiring about a black CSL which was on his site (and still is.. Or was a week or so ago) Had been long sold he told me, That was around feb/march time, Think he leaves sold stock on his site to generate interest/ calls, Shame as I was gonna potentially purchase the CSl as it looked a cracker. echo this. I called him saturday about the oxford green convertible, same story, advertised on here, a long time sold. seemed like a pleasent guy. I would not have a problem buying a car from him, just do all the usual checks you would with any other car and follow up the service history. The question that was being asked was has anyone had any dealings with the named company, it wasnt an invite to speculate on his possible shadey business (assome have put it) for gods sake. True enough. But a long history of advertising cars that are long since sold, is surely not the way to inspire consumer confidence?
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robk84
89 posts
75 months
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I have been looking for an e46 m3, e39 m5 for a while.. on numerous occasions i have seen one of his vehicles advertised. Called.. get a fairly blunt reply of its sold.. (so why isnt it marked as sold on pistonheads)
Few weeks later, same car goes to the top of the classifieds - call again, "its sold"
It seems to the same cars advertised over and over again.
Nice stock - maybe im just unlucky, however i dont bother calling now if i see something i want.
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jaedba2604
706 posts
16 months
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Gardsdog
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12 months
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I realise this is my first post on PH's, but it is because I have just purchased my first M5. I bought it off Scott who owns SJ Specialist Cars. It is still advertised on here but it is not on the website, it's the black E60 M5 M5LXD. I have to say that I have found him very helpfull and knowledgable about the cars he sells. The prices are lower than traditional dealers because of the lack of overheads and he mainly deals in M cars. There was no pushy sales techniques or bul**** when I bought the car, he also gave me a very fair price for my 57 plate 320 touring. hope this helps. Above all, the car is amazing... If a little thirsty, drove it up the A470 from South Wales to Llandudno....awesome.
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pingu393
628 posts
74 months
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I live very close to a dealer who sells from his own driveway. The cars are stored in local lock-ups (hence the reason for viewing by appointment). He did have a plot, but couldn't sell enough cars to make up the £2,000 per month overheads. I have often told him that he doesn't need to make his cars as close to perfection as he does. I've never seen cars for sale at a higher standard of preparation than his.
I suspect that this guy is similar and I would be very happy to take him on face value, but if any alarm bells ring - walk away.
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turboman786
464 posts
56 months
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Gardsdog said: I realise this is my first post on PH's, but it is because I have just purchased my first M5. I bought it off Scott who owns SJ Specialist Cars. It is still advertised on here but it is not on the website, it's the black E60 M5 M5LXD. I have to say that I have found him very helpfull and knowledgable about the cars he sells. The prices are lower than traditional dealers because of the lack of overheads and he mainly deals in M cars. There was no pushy sales techniques or bul**** when I bought the car, he also gave me a very fair price for my 57 plate 320 touring. hope this helps. Above all, the car is amazing... If a little thirsty, drove it up the A470 from South Wales to Llandudno....awesome. This is almost a PH tradition...where a trader is being discussed, a new poster appears and explains their delight at dealing with said firm!
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Babu 01
1,548 posts
68 months
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turboman786 said: This is almost a PH tradition...where a trader is being discussed, a new poster appears and explains their delight at dealing with said firm! Odd how the same thing happened on Cutters when this guy was being discussed.
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