Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 4)
Discussion
Cobracc said:
CivicDuties said:
Must be like Christmas today for all you Brexit lads. All those lovely new import checks and charges, win win win. Might as well leave the fairy lights up for the next round of wins, too.
Congratulations, boys, enjoy your big day.
Nobody voted for that.Congratulations, boys, enjoy your big day.
Tuesday's James O'Brian was interesting, just listening to it now.
https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episod...
Discussing Brexit and the impact on food prices and UK agriculture. Mostly callers discussing their regret for voting for Brexit, and accepting they fell for the Leave lies. Although, there is one caller who mentioned they never voted for cheaper food, only sovereignty - which PH'r is it? ;-)
A woman recounted how her mother, who emigrated to the UK from Poland, voted in favor of Leave. Now, she regrets her decision as she faces a steep increase in her food expenses. Plus the specialty Polish foods she occasionally enjoyed have become too expensive to afford.
Acknowledging the challenges brought about by Brexit is a positive move toward mending divisions within the UK. Folks like the Johnson and Rees-Mogg should be held accountable, and not forgetting the woeful leadership of Cameron and Corbyn, they are all culpable.
https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episod...
Discussing Brexit and the impact on food prices and UK agriculture. Mostly callers discussing their regret for voting for Brexit, and accepting they fell for the Leave lies. Although, there is one caller who mentioned they never voted for cheaper food, only sovereignty - which PH'r is it? ;-)
A woman recounted how her mother, who emigrated to the UK from Poland, voted in favor of Leave. Now, she regrets her decision as she faces a steep increase in her food expenses. Plus the specialty Polish foods she occasionally enjoyed have become too expensive to afford.
Acknowledging the challenges brought about by Brexit is a positive move toward mending divisions within the UK. Folks like the Johnson and Rees-Mogg should be held accountable, and not forgetting the woeful leadership of Cameron and Corbyn, they are all culpable.
redback911 said:
Tuesday's James O'Brian was interesting, just listening to it now.
https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episod...
Discussing Brexit and the impact on food prices and UK agriculture. Mostly callers discussing their regret for voting for Brexit, and accepting they fell for the Leave lies. Although, there is one caller who mentioned they never voted for cheaper food, only sovereignty - which PH'r is it? ;-)
A woman recounted how her mother, who emigrated to the UK from Poland, voted in favor of Leave. Now, she regrets her decision as she faces a steep increase in her food expenses. Plus the specialty Polish foods she occasionally enjoyed have become too expensive to afford.
Acknowledging the challenges brought about by Brexit is a positive move toward mending divisions within the UK. Folks like the Johnson and Rees-Mogg should be held accountable, and not forgetting the woeful leadership of Cameron and Corbyn, they are all culpable.
Latest ONS report stated.https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episod...
Discussing Brexit and the impact on food prices and UK agriculture. Mostly callers discussing their regret for voting for Brexit, and accepting they fell for the Leave lies. Although, there is one caller who mentioned they never voted for cheaper food, only sovereignty - which PH'r is it? ;-)
A woman recounted how her mother, who emigrated to the UK from Poland, voted in favor of Leave. Now, she regrets her decision as she faces a steep increase in her food expenses. Plus the specialty Polish foods she occasionally enjoyed have become too expensive to afford.
Acknowledging the challenges brought about by Brexit is a positive move toward mending divisions within the UK. Folks like the Johnson and Rees-Mogg should be held accountable, and not forgetting the woeful leadership of Cameron and Corbyn, they are all culpable.
Since 2019, food prices have increased by a cumulative 34% in Germany, 26% in the UK, 25% in the US, 23% in Canada and France, 21% in Italy, and 12% in Japan
Mainland Europe is not free from the same issues UK has with regards to cost of food. You wont see this of course, all you see is your own local impact, which is why taking callers input can often give the wrong impression. Nowhere is escaping the extra costs post Covid and Ukraine, especially mainland Europe.
732NM said:
redback911 said:
Tuesday's James O'Brian was interesting, just listening to it now.
https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episod...
Discussing Brexit and the impact on food prices and UK agriculture. Mostly callers discussing their regret for voting for Brexit, and accepting they fell for the Leave lies. Although, there is one caller who mentioned they never voted for cheaper food, only sovereignty - which PH'r is it? ;-)
A woman recounted how her mother, who emigrated to the UK from Poland, voted in favor of Leave. Now, she regrets her decision as she faces a steep increase in her food expenses. Plus the specialty Polish foods she occasionally enjoyed have become too expensive to afford.
Acknowledging the challenges brought about by Brexit is a positive move toward mending divisions within the UK. Folks like the Johnson and Rees-Mogg should be held accountable, and not forgetting the woeful leadership of Cameron and Corbyn, they are all culpable.
Latest ONS report stated.https://www.globalplayer.com/catchup/lbc/uk/episod...
Discussing Brexit and the impact on food prices and UK agriculture. Mostly callers discussing their regret for voting for Brexit, and accepting they fell for the Leave lies. Although, there is one caller who mentioned they never voted for cheaper food, only sovereignty - which PH'r is it? ;-)
A woman recounted how her mother, who emigrated to the UK from Poland, voted in favor of Leave. Now, she regrets her decision as she faces a steep increase in her food expenses. Plus the specialty Polish foods she occasionally enjoyed have become too expensive to afford.
Acknowledging the challenges brought about by Brexit is a positive move toward mending divisions within the UK. Folks like the Johnson and Rees-Mogg should be held accountable, and not forgetting the woeful leadership of Cameron and Corbyn, they are all culpable.
Since 2019, food prices have increased by a cumulative 34% in Germany, 26% in the UK, 25% in the US, 23% in Canada and France, 21% in Italy, and 12% in Japan
Mainland Europe is not free from the same issues UK has with regards to cost of food. You wont see this of course, all you see is your own local impact, which is why taking callers input can often give the wrong impression. Nowhere is escaping the extra costs post Covid and Ukraine, especially mainland Europe.
Is anyone else impressed how diseases know the UK has left the EU and now are trying to get into the country!
Has anyone posted the latest Brexit benefit?
Pint-sized bottles of wine on shelves from September in post-Brexit shake-up
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/02/pint-s...
Not everyone is impressed...
The SNP’s Patrick Grady said ministers should admit there was “little to no demand or interest for this supposedly glorious Brexit benefit”.
Luckily Kemi, our Business Secretary, can justify the increased costs, additional packaging, consumer confusion, lack of adherence to international sizing standards for export?
“I can’t imagine why anyone would be complaining about the sale of pints of wine. If he doesn’t like it, he doesn’t have to buy it.”
How many Brexit benefits are we up to now?
- Blue Passports
- Pint-sized Wine Bottles
Pint-sized bottles of wine on shelves from September in post-Brexit shake-up
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/02/pint-s...
Not everyone is impressed...
The SNP’s Patrick Grady said ministers should admit there was “little to no demand or interest for this supposedly glorious Brexit benefit”.
Luckily Kemi, our Business Secretary, can justify the increased costs, additional packaging, consumer confusion, lack of adherence to international sizing standards for export?
“I can’t imagine why anyone would be complaining about the sale of pints of wine. If he doesn’t like it, he doesn’t have to buy it.”
How many Brexit benefits are we up to now?
- Blue Passports
- Pint-sized Wine Bottles
redback911 said:
Has anyone posted the latest Brexit benefit?
Pint-sized bottles of wine on shelves from September in post-Brexit shake-up
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/02/pint-s...
Not everyone is impressed...
The SNP’s Patrick Grady said ministers should admit there was “little to no demand or interest for this supposedly glorious Brexit benefit”.
Luckily Kemi, our Business Secretary, can justify the increased costs, additional packaging, consumer confusion, lack of adherence to international sizing standards for export?
“I can’t imagine why anyone would be complaining about the sale of pints of wine. If he doesn’t like it, he doesn’t have to buy it.”
How many Brexit benefits are we up to now?
- Blue Passports
- Pint-sized Wine Bottles
If there is no market for it, it won't be made. Basic commercial reality.Pint-sized bottles of wine on shelves from September in post-Brexit shake-up
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/05/02/pint-s...
Not everyone is impressed...
The SNP’s Patrick Grady said ministers should admit there was “little to no demand or interest for this supposedly glorious Brexit benefit”.
Luckily Kemi, our Business Secretary, can justify the increased costs, additional packaging, consumer confusion, lack of adherence to international sizing standards for export?
“I can’t imagine why anyone would be complaining about the sale of pints of wine. If he doesn’t like it, he doesn’t have to buy it.”
How many Brexit benefits are we up to now?
- Blue Passports
- Pint-sized Wine Bottles
732NM said:
If there is no market for it, it won't be made. Basic commercial reality.
Ah. Yes. But. No. But. The Government says a 568ml size is needed for innovation and greater choice, and demonstrates a fundamental Brexit freedom. Also... Current evidence suggest commercial realities are not a consideration when it comes to Brexit and Government decision making.The last few years have been great for British wine producers and climate change could benefit UK vineyards even more. Good job we have plenty of trade agreements with the biggest consumers of wine, oh wait.
We could sign new trade agreements and align ourselves with other trading partners for size and quality control, but then that would mean giving up sovereignty.
Oh well, we will just need to consume more UK wine, in the UK - maybe not such a bad thing.
[url]https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9428/#:~:text=UK%20food%20and%20non%2Dalcoholic,in%20food%20prices%20since%201977.{/url]
"Rising cost of living in the UK Research Briefing Published Tuesday, 23 April, 2024"
Puts the blame of food price rises mainly on Russia and high energy prices, I couldn't see any reference to Brexit per se
"Rising cost of living in the UK Research Briefing Published Tuesday, 23 April, 2024"
Puts the blame of food price rises mainly on Russia and high energy prices, I couldn't see any reference to Brexit per se
732NM said:
What a load of wordsoup coblers.
The market determines if something is manufactured. All you have here is an option available to choose whether to pursue or not.
What's wrong with having choices?
No doubt if the market has it's way then a pint bottle will likely cost the same as a 750ml does - Brexit bonus?The market determines if something is manufactured. All you have here is an option available to choose whether to pursue or not.
What's wrong with having choices?
Amateurish said:
Wine can already be sold in 500ml bottles. So I'm struggling to see the benefit of allowing a pint bottle.
But then again, I'm not sure why we have restrictions on bottle size at all. Producers should have free choice of any bottle size, surely?
Point 1- Agreed.But then again, I'm not sure why we have restrictions on bottle size at all. Producers should have free choice of any bottle size, surely?
Point 2 - No. Producers want standardised bottle sizes, so as to keep production costs down - prices will go up if bottle manufacturers suddenly have 7,648 different size specifications from wine makers. Nobody wants 'Awkward B'stard Brexit Wine Co LTD' to be ordering wine bottles in 11 fl oz, 20 fl oz and 37 fl oz (made up sizes for the sake of the argument - and of course Awkward Brexit B'stards want things in non-sensical Imperial measurements just to be awkward and performative and British Exceptionalist) just because they feel like it. Logistics companies want standardised bottles in standardised packs and pallets in order to keep variables, and therefore, prices down. Standardisation is A Good Thing. Standardisation across international borders is An Even Better Thing. But Awkward Brexit B'stards don't like that. The want to diverge for the sake of divergence itself. Performatively.
CivicDuties said:
Amateurish said:
Wine can already be sold in 500ml bottles. So I'm struggling to see the benefit of allowing a pint bottle.
But then again, I'm not sure why we have restrictions on bottle size at all. Producers should have free choice of any bottle size, surely?
Point 1- Agreed.But then again, I'm not sure why we have restrictions on bottle size at all. Producers should have free choice of any bottle size, surely?
Point 2 - No. Producers want standardised bottle sizes, so as to keep production costs down - prices will go up if bottle manufacturers suddenly have 7,648 different size specifications from wine makers. Nobody wants 'Awkward B'stard Brexit Wine Co LTD' to be ordering wine bottles in 11 fl oz, 20 fl oz and 37 fl oz (made up sizes for the sake of the argument - and of course Awkward Brexit B'stards want things in non-sensical Imperial measurements just to be awkward and performative and British Exceptionalist) just because they feel like it. Logistics companies want standardised bottles in standardised packs and pallets in order to keep variables, and therefore, prices down. Standardisation is A Good Thing. Standardisation across international borders is An Even Better Thing. But Awkward Brexit B'stards don't like that. The want to diverge for the sake of divergence itself. Performatively.
Should do wonders for car production and car makers will earn so much more. We could call the small one the trabbant, then the rapide and maybe a Zil. Critical thinking at its zenith. Bloody hell.
CivicDuties said:
Point 1- Agreed.
Point 2 - No. Producers want standardised bottle sizes, so as to keep production costs down - prices will go up if bottle manufacturers suddenly have 7,648 different size specifications from wine makers. Nobody wants 'Awkward B'stard Brexit Wine Co LTD' to be ordering wine bottles in 11 fl oz, 20 fl oz and 37 fl oz (made up sizes for the sake of the argument - and of course Awkward Brexit B'stards want things in non-sensical Imperial measurements just to be awkward and performative and British Exceptionalist) just because they feel like it. Logistics companies want standardised bottles in standardised packs and pallets in order to keep variables, and therefore, prices down. Standardisation is A Good Thing. Standardisation across international borders is An Even Better Thing. But Awkward Brexit B'stards don't like that. The want to diverge for the sake of divergence itself. Performatively.
Sorry, I don't agree. Point 2 - No. Producers want standardised bottle sizes, so as to keep production costs down - prices will go up if bottle manufacturers suddenly have 7,648 different size specifications from wine makers. Nobody wants 'Awkward B'stard Brexit Wine Co LTD' to be ordering wine bottles in 11 fl oz, 20 fl oz and 37 fl oz (made up sizes for the sake of the argument - and of course Awkward Brexit B'stards want things in non-sensical Imperial measurements just to be awkward and performative and British Exceptionalist) just because they feel like it. Logistics companies want standardised bottles in standardised packs and pallets in order to keep variables, and therefore, prices down. Standardisation is A Good Thing. Standardisation across international borders is An Even Better Thing. But Awkward Brexit B'stards don't like that. The want to diverge for the sake of divergence itself. Performatively.
Why have legal restrictions on the size of wine bottles? Just let the market decide.
It seems like classic regulatory overreach.
Ridiculous to compare specialist spirits to wine. Completely different volumes of production and demand patterns.
VdS, do you have to speak to people in such an insulting manner? Can you discuss anything like an adult? I notice you went completely quiet after the last uncalled for personal insult you unelashed on me, probably in the hope I'd forget, now it's "tiny mind". Are you ready to retract and apologise for the previous slur against my character, namely your vile implication that I'm some kind of sex case?
VdS, do you have to speak to people in such an insulting manner? Can you discuss anything like an adult? I notice you went completely quiet after the last uncalled for personal insult you unelashed on me, probably in the hope I'd forget, now it's "tiny mind". Are you ready to retract and apologise for the previous slur against my character, namely your vile implication that I'm some kind of sex case?
Edited by CivicDuties on Tuesday 7th May 09:24
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