Sunday Times & C4 due to drop a big story [Russell Brand]
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Claims it not just Brand but two others, David Walliams and Noel Fielding with claims Fielding took teenage fans into his dressing room during filming.
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Didn't think bakeoff had anyone else present during filming?
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Didn't think bakeoff had anyone else present during filming?
andy_s said:
PH sometimes: 'Entrenched ideas set, presumptions loaded, outrage ready - no idea what any of this is about but let's go!'
I don’t know about the outage but I think if it’s gonna be on dispatches and the Sunday times is running the story on the front page it’s probably not going to be a tear jerking romance story.105.4 said:
Electro1980 said:
No it didn’t. Hearsay and rumours have always existed, and always impacted peoples reputation and lives. Innocent until proven guilty is a concept in criminal law, not on the general public making up their minds based on information. Liable and slander laws exist to prevent lies and, frankly, I am minded to believe journalists over Brand who, regardless of his past, has chosen to make a rambling video rather than use the UK laws, which would very heavily favour him if he were to take it to court.
Given how many times we have seen people use gagging orders and liable cases to stop information about them being published, the fact he is not taking that route says a lot.
And right on que, here’s Electro to prove my point.Given how many times we have seen people use gagging orders and liable cases to stop information about them being published, the fact he is not taking that route says a lot.
You’re so transparent Electro. If Russell Brand had used a gagging order, you’d be saying that he was only doing so as he didn’t want the truth to come out, therefore he’s guilty.
Use of an injunction is basically an admission that what is said is true, but that the person brining it is trying to keep the information private. This can be for a number of reasons, some valid, most not, hence the controversy around SLAPP laws and super injunctions and them being used as intimidation. It is quite reasonable however to take the use of these, rather than the use of other laws, as evidence that what is being said is wholly or substantially true.
The fact that he hasn’t gone down the injunction route, or has and it’s about to run out, tells me either he knew it would fail or he thinks he can fight it in the media. Neither of which says is a defence.
Again, this isn’t a court of law, and I have every right to make my mind up on the evidence. If Brand wants to clear his name then there are ways to do that. Let’s not forget how long the likes of Savile and Harris carried on whilst dismissing everything as malicious rumours. I’ll trust the journalists with evidence far more than another Brand video rant.
Djtemeka said:
I find the old Brand really annoying but I like the “new” Brand.
He’s still annoying though but I tend to agree with a lot he says.
There was a very notable shift a couple of years ago, when he basically switched from charismatic left wing movie star ladies man, into right wing joe rogan 'uncancellable' indie podcasterHe’s still annoying though but I tend to agree with a lot he says.
It always seemed a bit odd. With hindsight, if you had 2 years notice this was going to happen, excellent lawyers, this career pivot is pretty much exactly what you would do.
Russell Brand stayed at the hotel my wife was managing some years ago; she said that according to the staff he was perfectly polite and apart from lots of “coming and goings” his only request was for a yoga mat. My wife had one at home so I took it in for him and he presumably used it for the rest of his stay…..
I accept that this is pointless information
I accept that this is pointless information
It feels like this is standard advertising for dispatches. Is anyone really going to be surprised in any way if it has a couple (of dozen?) of teenagers saying Brand was total narcissistic prick with an exhausting, dominating personality who slept with them without consent while smashing lines of coke and berating them?
Maybe they have footage of Michael Macintyre stepping off stage, his cheeky smile evaporating the instant he's out of camera, punching a child who approaches him for an autograph and picking three girls from the line of stone-faced groupies trafficked to his roadshow who then follow him, whimpering in trepidation, to his tent from which screams then emanate.
Maybe they have footage of Michael Macintyre stepping off stage, his cheeky smile evaporating the instant he's out of camera, punching a child who approaches him for an autograph and picking three girls from the line of stone-faced groupies trafficked to his roadshow who then follow him, whimpering in trepidation, to his tent from which screams then emanate.
tim0409 said:
Russell Brand stayed at the hotel my wife was managing some years ago; she said that according to the staff he was perfectly polite and apart from lots of “coming and goings” his only request was for a yoga mat. My wife had one at home so I took it in for him and he presumably used it for the rest of his stay…..
I accept that this is pointless information
Yeah, that’s sounds like you were sent to get that yoga mat to keep you out of the way…I accept that this is pointless information
Flumpo said:
tim0409 said:
Russell Brand stayed at the hotel my wife was managing some years ago; she said that according to the staff he was perfectly polite and apart from lots of “coming and goings” his only request was for a yoga mat. My wife had one at home so I took it in for him and he presumably used it for the rest of his stay…..
I accept that this is pointless information
Yeah, that’s sounds like you were sent to get that yoga mat to keep you out of the way…I accept that this is pointless information
Evercross said:
pork911 said:
Electro1980 said:
Use of an injunction is basically an admission that what is said is true, but that the person brining it is trying to keep the information private.
bks I'm sure some do this. But we shouldn't be assuming it is the case.
Sadly we love tittle tattle in this country.
Am not convinced it's healthy, the press spreading rumours etc. And it definitely isn't healthy naming people before they've been to court.
Murph7355 said:
The "bks" part is, I think, the sweeping generalisation?
I'm sure some do this. But we shouldn't be assuming it is the case.
Sadly we love tittle tattle in this country.
Am not convinced it's healthy, the press spreading rumours etc. And it definitely isn't healthy naming people before they've been to court.
Give over, it’s more widespread in mainland Europe and the USA and always has been. It’s simply more noticeable these days as so much reporting has no boundaries despite our tighter press laws.I'm sure some do this. But we shouldn't be assuming it is the case.
Sadly we love tittle tattle in this country.
Am not convinced it's healthy, the press spreading rumours etc. And it definitely isn't healthy naming people before they've been to court.
pork911 said:
Electro1980 said:
Use of an injunction is basically an admission that what is said is true, but that the person brining it is trying to keep the information private.
bks I can see a meme with Andrew Sachs photo with “Karma bh” underneath which will be doing the rounds very soon.
Don’t have any particular opinion on him really, if he has done something unpleasant then he must answer and take any punishment coming, don’t like witch hunts but that Andrew Sachs thing was pretty low and did make me feel it was a mean thing to do to an old man.
Don’t have any particular opinion on him really, if he has done something unpleasant then he must answer and take any punishment coming, don’t like witch hunts but that Andrew Sachs thing was pretty low and did make me feel it was a mean thing to do to an old man.
Electro1980 said:
pork911 said:
Electro1980 said:
Use of an injunction is basically an admission that what is said is true, but that the person brining it is trying to keep the information private.
bks J4CKO said:
I can see a meme with Andrew Sachs photo with “Karma bh” underneath which will be doing the rounds very soon.
Don’t have any particular opinion on him really, if he has done something unpleasant then he must answer and take any punishment coming, don’t like witch hunts but that Andrew Sachs thing was pretty low and did make me feel it was a mean thing to do to an old man.
Hopefully.Don’t have any particular opinion on him really, if he has done something unpleasant then he must answer and take any punishment coming, don’t like witch hunts but that Andrew Sachs thing was pretty low and did make me feel it was a mean thing to do to an old man.
I tend to take the view he and Jonathan Ross should never have been on TV again after that piece of sthousery.
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