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Deep Thought

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198 months

Wednesday 24th April
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It seems my furry friends have now taken to burrowing UNDER the rat trap.

No intentions of going in to it.

Bill

52,830 posts

256 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Patience! And scatter some bird seed in and around the entrance.

Evanivitch

20,135 posts

123 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Bill said:
Accuracy of a catapult is far lower so you're more likely just to wound it. Or miss outright.
As long as you are reasonably confident of the shot then it's acceptable to take with a catapult (without a stone). Any injured animal should be dispatched quickly.

Bill

52,830 posts

256 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Caddyshack said:
I have seen people knock coins out of trees with a catapult at a good 25m and more, the sort of shot I might not be all that confident with using a good rifle and scope from a standing, non resting position.
How consistently? I also had a black widow as a youth (I think I still have one somewhere ...scratchchin ) and could knock cans over with it, but not every time and at the same distance would expect a tight group with an air rifle.

Caddyshack

10,841 posts

207 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Bill said:
Caddyshack said:
I have seen people knock coins out of trees with a catapult at a good 25m and more, the sort of shot I might not be all that confident with using a good rifle and scope from a standing, non resting position.
How consistently? I also had a black widow as a youth (I think I still have one somewhere ...scratchchin ) and could knock cans over with it, but not every time and at the same distance would expect a tight group with an air rifle.
Don’t know on that one. If I am rested I can get pellet on pellet quite often and very tight groups, I would not expect that with a good catapulter but I think a good hit with a bearing would kill a rat in most places from stomach up?

Fermit

13,029 posts

101 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Caddyshack said:
Don’t know on that one. If I am rested I can get pellet on pellet quite often and very tight groups, I would not expect that with a good catapulter but I think a good hit with a bearing would kill a rat in most places from stomach up?
IME, shots to the head are most humane. The dead rats we find on our (poultry hosting) allotments are/were 9/10 bleeding from the head. Shot by air rifle, by members of the allotments.

Cheib

23,274 posts

176 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Turn7 said:
Cheib said:
Deep Thought said:
They simply walk round it. Sometimes they sniff it, or stop to lean against it and sun themselves but have absolutely no intentions of going in to it.

Will go get some nutella tomorrow and try that..
Zapper with Nutella bagged another one tonight. Hope it works for you !
Link to zapper please
I can’t find the one’s we have…Google electric rodent trap…Amazon has a few different ones. Some are battery only, I’d recommend the mains and battery ones,

Mobile Chicane

20,843 posts

213 months

Thursday 25th April
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How about 'leave them alone'.

You shouldn't feed birds in summer anyway, as they will become dependent on the food you put out, rather than learn to search for their own.


Evanivitch

20,135 posts

123 months

Thursday 25th April
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Mobile Chicane said:
How about 'leave them alone'.

You shouldn't feed birds in summer anyway, as they will become dependent on the food you put out, rather than learn to search for their own.
A myth.

Caddyshack

10,841 posts

207 months

Thursday 25th April
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Fermit said:
Caddyshack said:
Don’t know on that one. If I am rested I can get pellet on pellet quite often and very tight groups, I would not expect that with a good catapulter but I think a good hit with a bearing would kill a rat in most places from stomach up?
IME, shots to the head are most humane. The dead rats we find on our (poultry hosting) allotments are/were 9/10 bleeding from the head. Shot by air rifle, by members of the allotments.
Air rifle, that is a definite yes. I think the size and weight of a bearing might do more damage to organs. I only ever do head shots when shooting rats. If I did miss and hit the body I follow up with an immediate head shot. (38 shot magazine in my fx impact)

Deep Thought

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35,847 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th April
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Evanivitch said:
Mobile Chicane said:
How about 'leave them alone'.

You shouldn't feed birds in summer anyway, as they will become dependent on the food you put out, rather than learn to search for their own.
A myth.
Its is a myth yes.


Deep Thought

Original Poster:

35,847 posts

198 months

Thursday 25th April
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And we have our first victim!

The mother rat finally tried to get to the bait in the DOC 150.

Changes made today - as per suggestions - i sprinkled some bird seed at the entrance and in the first chamber, along with a little peanut butter smudged in the first chamber.

She was huge.

Definitely a quick and instant death. Huge force with that trap.

The remaining five or so appear to be her offspring.

Hopefully now we have a successful and repeatable approach.


Promised Land

4,736 posts

210 months

Thursday 25th April
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Deep Thought said:
And we have our first victim!

The mother rat finally tried to get to the bait in the DOC 150.

Changes made today - as per suggestions - i sprinkled some bird seed at the entrance and in the first chamber, along with a little peanut butter smudged in the first chamber.

She was huge.

Definitely a quick and instant death. Huge force with that trap.

The remaining five or so appear to be her offspring.

Hopefully now we have a successful and repeatable approach.
Well done on your first catch, learn by your mistakes when trapping and it’s gets easier every time, good traps aren’t they?

Juvenile rats are usually a lot easier to catch but keep baiting the trap and don’t move its position and you’ll be pulling them out more frequently.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,128 posts

166 months

Thursday 25th April
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Deep Thought said:
She was huge.
Probably a male. Rats vary in size a lot, but males are usually considerably bigger than females, and females are never huge. A big male can be pretty impressive.

Caddyshack

10,841 posts

207 months

Thursday 25th April
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Deep Thought said:
She was huge.
Probably a male. Rats vary in size a lot, but males are usually considerably bigger than females, and females are never huge. A big male can be pretty impressive.
They also have very obvious testicles hanging out the back so you shouldn't easily confuse them.

RustyMX5

7,074 posts

218 months

Thursday 25th April
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I used some rat glue which was applied to an old piece of timber. I managed to get 3 or 4 that way.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,128 posts

166 months

Thursday 25th April
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Caddyshack said:
They also have very obvious testicles hanging out the back so you shouldn't easily confuse them.
Indeed.

I don’t know if the OP is aware that male rats are ludicrously well endowed in the testicular department; that would certainly settle the question. It just seems unlikely that a female would be “huge” - generally speaking they’re not.

Deep Thought

Original Poster:

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Thursday 25th April
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Caddyshack said:
They also have very obvious testicles hanging out the back so you shouldn't easily confuse them.
Indeed.

I don’t know if the OP is aware that male rats are ludicrously well endowed in the testicular department; that would certainly settle the question. It just seems unlikely that a female would be “huge” - generally speaking they’re not.
She had a very visible series of nipples

Caddyshack

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207 months

Thursday 25th April
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RustyMX5 said:
I used some rat glue which was applied to an old piece of timber. I managed to get 3 or 4 that way.
Glue is cruel and I believe it is about to be made illegal to use.

LooneyTunes

6,873 posts

159 months

Thursday 25th April
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Deep Thought said:
Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Caddyshack said:
They also have very obvious testicles hanging out the back so you shouldn't easily confuse them.
Indeed.

I don’t know if the OP is aware that male rats are ludicrously well endowed in the testicular department; that would certainly settle the question. It just seems unlikely that a female would be “huge” - generally speaking they’re not.
She had a very visible series of nipples
In that case, if you thought she was huge, wait until you see a good sized male one...