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Big Rod
3,783 posts
86 months
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kambites said: jesusbuiltmycar said: All software from IBM (especially DOORs & Lotus Notes) You should try working for them, then you have no choice but to use their software.  IBM is on the top of my list of companies I don't want to work for/with!
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Big Rod
3,783 posts
86 months
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drivin_me_nuts said: TigerS6 said: AbarthChris said: My first job out of uni was as a SAP developer. Hated the stupid software, so unintuitive to use! Now work with Agresso, much better  Interesting... I found Agresso (HR) to be very basic and quite frankly quite poor HR system, more reminiscent of an access-style database than a true HR platform. (though Finance module was better regarded). (Managed the migration from SAP HR to Agresso HR following a major divestiture). SAP is extremely logical, if it has a poor implementation and filled with crappy data, you'll only get rubbish out... which is where a lot of companies fail. (Regards Global HR Systems Manager & Petrolhead)  lol Inclined to agree. Have been around too many clients who have no idea how to take ownership of anything, let alone something as complex as an SAP implementation. Yes, blame the software, yes, blame the implementation partner, but why not try and also take ownership of your own issues and manage them. Procrastination and indecision kill sap, as does slipping deadlines, bigger all UAT, poor integration across the business areas. It is quite laughable watching how possessive people become when threatened. That's a fair point. Subject to similar myself from a different aspect but the same holds true with the product I work with.
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Flibble
1,090 posts
51 months
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kambites said: You should try working for them, then you have no choice but to use their software. We had MS Office while I was at IBM, we refused to use the Lotus stuff cos it was so pants. Only Lotus stuff I used was Notes and that is horrific.
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AJS-
10,112 posts
106 months
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aw51 121565 said: I was going to reply "hindsight is a wonderful thing" to the first post - but the second post sort-of reinforces the point  . Whoever said "Kindle" - couldn't agree more! Talk about an answer to a question nobody asked  ... I don't get it? You can risk getting a book wet, and resurrect it afterwards for free if you are so inclined. You can also shove a book in yer back pocket (she does this in the Ad shown on the fiend in the corner of the living room) and if you forget it is there and sit down it isn't going to write the book off  . Agree with the Kindle too. I was given one as a present and it really wasn't up to much. Books are nearly as expensive as paperback ones, pictures don't show up, the formatting is all to pot unless they're .mobi kindle specific files, the interface is clunky and slow and it kept doing stupid stuff I didn't ask it to. I gave it a fair chance, downloaded quite a few books and it was OK to read on, but just an utterly pointless invention. And as if to make your point, I lost the confounded thing the other week, and my library with it. Aside from the irritation of only being half way through the book I was reading on it, I'm not the least bit concerned.
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Twincam16
27,438 posts
128 months
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AJS- said: aw51 121565 said: I was going to reply "hindsight is a wonderful thing" to the first post - but the second post sort-of reinforces the point . Whoever said "Kindle" - couldn't agree more! Talk about an answer to a question nobody asked ... I don't get it? You can risk getting a book wet, and resurrect it afterwards for free if you are so inclined. You can also shove a book in yer back pocket (she does this in the Ad shown on the fiend in the corner of the living room) and if you forget it is there and sit down it isn't going to write the book off . Agree with the Kindle too. I was given one as a present and it really wasn't up to much. Books are nearly as expensive as paperback ones, pictures don't show up, the formatting is all to pot unless they're .mobi kindle specific files, the interface is clunky and slow and it kept doing stupid stuff I didn't ask it to. I gave it a fair chance, downloaded quite a few books and it was OK to read on, but just an utterly pointless invention. And as if to make your point, I lost the confounded thing the other week, and my library with it. Aside from the irritation of only being half way through the book I was reading on it, I'm not the least bit concerned.  All this 'consolidation technology' has strong overtones of eggs and baskets. Also, aparently if you read ebooks on Apple devices, Apple has the power to remotely censor and even remove them completely. It's apparently done this with several erotica titles already. That's the kind of behaviour I'd expect from a hardline religious dictatorship.
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otolith
19,759 posts
74 months
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As far as I can see, a Kindle or other ebook reader is mostly for holiday reading by people who read a lot and travel to places with tight baggage allowances. The capacity to download new books by wifi or 3G would also be useful in resorts without book shops.
I don't really see the point for people who pack one Jeffrey Archer novel in their MPV and drive to their static caravan in Cleethorpes, but if weight and bulk of real books are issues I can see their usefulness.
Personally, I'm too irrationally attached to owning hard copy, but I have friends who don't keep books after they have read them.
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KaraK
10,793 posts
79 months
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AJS- said: aw51 121565 said: I was going to reply "hindsight is a wonderful thing" to the first post - but the second post sort-of reinforces the point . Whoever said "Kindle" - couldn't agree more! Talk about an answer to a question nobody asked ... I don't get it? You can risk getting a book wet, and resurrect it afterwards for free if you are so inclined. You can also shove a book in yer back pocket (she does this in the Ad shown on the fiend in the corner of the living room) and if you forget it is there and sit down it isn't going to write the book off . Agree with the Kindle too. I was given one as a present and it really wasn't up to much. Books are nearly as expensive as paperback ones, pictures don't show up, the formatting is all to pot unless they're .mobi kindle specific files, the interface is clunky and slow and it kept doing stupid stuff I didn't ask it to. I gave it a fair chance, downloaded quite a few books and it was OK to read on, but just an utterly pointless invention. And as if to make your point, I lost the confounded thing the other week, and my library with it. Aside from the irritation of only being half way through the book I was reading on it, I'm not the least bit concerned. While I can appreciate the Kindle might not be for you that doesn't make it "pointless" in general. For someone like me who both reads and travels a great deal it's invaluable, when I went to the States for couple of weeks a few years back I took 7 or 8 books with me which was a good chunk in weight - compare that vs one Kindle and it's easy to see the benefits IMO. Add to that the ability for me to buy another book and keep reading immediately when I finish one at midnight or some other ungodly hour and I'd say it's the best gadget I've acquired in the last couple of years. Oh and losing your Kindle doesn't lose your library - anything you bought on Amazon for example can just be delivered to any other Kindle or device running the Kindle app you have on your account FOC so if you want to just finish that book you can always download the app to somewhere else (iPhone, PC etc)
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KaraK
10,793 posts
79 months
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Negative Creep said: KaraK said: Pesty said: DavesFlaps said: SAP - those who (try to) use it will agree. +1 I see your SAP and raise you Lotus Notes. As Notes apologists will claim over and over Mail and Calendar functionality isn't the only thing Notes is supposed to be used for, it is however a fairly important part of what Notes is supposed to be used for. Unfortunately you'd be better off trying to communicate by writing messages on the walls with feaces and it would probably be a more pleasant experience We have specific instructions to ensure Lotus is the last thing that we open, otherwise it's apparently too memory intensive. Although admittedly this is on 10 year old computers that still use Windows 2000 (yes, Windows 2000) We're running machines with XP, all of which have over 1Gb of memory, many with 2-3Gb and we still have hideous problems with Notes
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smartypants
17,775 posts
39 months
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KaraK said: While I can appreciate the Kindle might not be for you that doesn't make it "pointless" in general. For someone like me who both reads and travels a great deal it's invaluable, when I went to the States for couple of weeks a few years back I took 7 or 8 books with me which was a good chunk in weight - compare that vs one Kindle and it's easy to see the benefits IMO. Add to that the ability for me to buy another book and keep reading immediately when I finish one at midnight or some other ungodly hour and I'd say it's the best gadget I've acquired in the last couple of years.
Oh and losing your Kindle doesn't lose your library - anything you bought on Amazon for example can just be delivered to any other Kindle or device running the Kindle app you have on your account FOC so if you want to just finish that book you can always download the app to somewhere else (iPhone, PC etc) I'm on the fence with the Kindle, I slagged it off originally, but we bought one each for my parents and they loved them. I don't read a great deal, but I've just been leant three books for when I go on hols. Plus point is that I've been loaned the books - you can't do that with a kindle. However they will probably need their own suitcase to take with me! So I will only choose the one. I don't think it's a flash in the pan gimmick, I can see people using them alongside standard books. You'll always want a bookcase full of books - it makes you look intelligent
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KaraK
10,793 posts
79 months
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smartypants said: KaraK said: While I can appreciate the Kindle might not be for you that doesn't make it "pointless" in general. For someone like me who both reads and travels a great deal it's invaluable, when I went to the States for couple of weeks a few years back I took 7 or 8 books with me which was a good chunk in weight - compare that vs one Kindle and it's easy to see the benefits IMO. Add to that the ability for me to buy another book and keep reading immediately when I finish one at midnight or some other ungodly hour and I'd say it's the best gadget I've acquired in the last couple of years.
Oh and losing your Kindle doesn't lose your library - anything you bought on Amazon for example can just be delivered to any other Kindle or device running the Kindle app you have on your account FOC so if you want to just finish that book you can always download the app to somewhere else (iPhone, PC etc) I'm on the fence with the Kindle, I slagged it off originally, but we bought one each for my parents and they loved them. I don't read a great deal, but I've just been leant three books for when I go on hols. Plus point is that I've been loaned the books - you can't do that with a kindle. However they will probably need their own suitcase to take with me! So I will only choose the one. I don't think it's a flash in the pan gimmick, I can see people using them alongside standard books. You'll always want a bookcase full of books - it makes you look intelligent At the risk of further exposing myself as a Kindle fanboi I feel obliged to point out that you can lend books on a Kindle - unfortunately only for 14 days and the publisher has to tick a box saying lending is allowed but the system does allow it. Personally I love actual physical books and I've got a pretty substantial collection which I intend to keep adding to it's just that the Kindle is so damn convenient! ETA: Just done some checking and rather stupidly only people in the States can lend Kindle books currently. That's a bit s  t
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The Don of Croy
1,117 posts
29 months
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Democracy.
At least, the type we have at present. Giving the vote to everyone because of an arbitrary age, what is that all about?
Social Entrepreneurs.
So you like people and can find a way to monetise bringing people together? Wow.
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smartypants
17,775 posts
39 months
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KaraK said: At the risk of further exposing myself as a Kindle fanboi I feel obliged to point out that you can lend books on a Kindle - unfortunately only for 14 days and the publisher has to tick a box saying lending is allowed but the system does allow it.
Personally I love actual physical books and I've got a pretty substantial collection which I intend to keep adding to it's just that the Kindle is so damn convenient! OK I didn't know that, and that's pretty good if most titles are allowed to be lent (obviously everyone has to have a Kindle to allow this - not sure the paperback to kindle interface has been perfected yet  )
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KaraK
10,793 posts
79 months
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smartypants said: KaraK said: At the risk of further exposing myself as a Kindle fanboi I feel obliged to point out that you can lend books on a Kindle - unfortunately only for 14 days and the publisher has to tick a box saying lending is allowed but the system does allow it.
Personally I love actual physical books and I've got a pretty substantial collection which I intend to keep adding to it's just that the Kindle is so damn convenient! OK I didn't know that, and that's pretty good if most titles are allowed to be lent (obviously everyone has to have a Kindle to allow this - not sure the paperback to kindle interface has been perfected yet ) Not sure if you've seen my edit but currently you can only lend on the other side of the pond
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smartypants
17,775 posts
39 months
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KaraK said: Not sure if you've seen my edit but currently you can only lend on the other side of the pond Oh... that's a shame
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KaraK
10,793 posts
79 months
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smartypants said: KaraK said: Not sure if you've seen my edit but currently you can only lend on the other side of the pond Oh... that's a shame Yeah.. fingers crossed they'll sort it out at some point.
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Buzz84
99 posts
19 months
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I love my kindle, very handy and portable. My Mercedes indicators work, guess i'm just lucky I have one with them spec'd... And as for SAP I worked at a place that had it and cursed it every working day, I was there 8 years.... left there and got a new job and after 11 months there they have just announced that they are getting SAP...  
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Disastrous
3,639 posts
87 months
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Kindle I like a lot. I use mine on holiday or if travelling but it doesn't preclude me from reading the odd borrowed paperback here and there. Really, it's just another way of consuming, and one with a form factor I get on with so will be keeping it around. Another vote for blister packs though. They're straight from hell. Also, those things you can get from Lakeland plastics to seal a Coke can so you can pop it back in the fridge without it going flat. Absurd that you should be too weak to finish an 'entire' can of Coke. See also 'Fun' Size anything. s t size, more like.
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eldar
7,038 posts
66 months
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KaraK said: We're running machines with XP, all of which have over 1Gb of memory, many with 2-3Gb and we still have hideous problems with Notes Luxury Only our posh machines have 1GB, most 512kb. Take forever to start up, crash and just prove what crap notes is. I'm probably using the same bloody system as you, I suspect....
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Starfighter
1,179 posts
48 months
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A major flaw with Kindle et al for travellers is that they have to be shot down for the taxi and first / last few minutes of flight. I'd don't get the logic on the as you are just reading it the same a s a dead tree. With headphones etc you can and will miss announcements etc so I see the reason for the ban.
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Agrispeed
750 posts
29 months
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Hang on, 7 baby pages without mention of those wheel mounted snow plows from earlier in the year? also, I would like to nominate most modern big car electrics. No, I don't need you to close the boot for me, 'eff off...  Or, gimmicky functions on cars, for example, It's a Q7, it does not need a sport feature, its as sporting as a baguette.
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