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mikemc88
220 posts
23 months
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Agree.
We now have players who can chip in with the goals and reduce the burden on him. Only possible concern he may have is defense, as we can score goals but no good if we concede just as many. We let in an awful lot last season, mainly down to injuries and not being able to field the same back 4 for more than 2 games! Maybe he was looking for us to sign another CB or full back. Not entirely sure but I would say we have made the signings to convince him he should stay.
What looks promising is that when you have Arteta, Wilshere, etc all fit along with the new signings, we will actually have a good squad, and can bring on players who could make a difference. There were some games last season where you got the feeling no one on the bench could come on and change the game if things were going wrong.
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Cheib
6,238 posts
44 months
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mikemc88 said: Agree.
We now have players who can chip in with the goals and reduce the burden on him. Only possible concern he may have is defense, as we can score goals but no good if we concede just as many. We let in an awful lot last season, mainly down to injuries and not being able to field the same back 4 for more than 2 games! Maybe he was looking for us to sign another CB or full back. Not entirely sure but I would say we have made the signings to convince him he should stay.
What looks promising is that when you have Arteta, Wilshere, etc all fit along with the new signings, we will actually have a good squad, and can bring on players who could make a difference. There were some games last season where you got the feeling no one on the bench could come on and change the game if things were going wrong. Nail.Head. Made some great signings BUT they are all offensive players and our biggest issue was conceding 49 goals in the Premier League last year....maybe Steve Bould can work wonders on the training ground ? Is Sahin a defensive midfielder ? Having said they I think most of the problem was the cover afforded by our midfield....there were numerous goals scored against us last year where the midfield went to sleep/failed to track back.
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obob
2,992 posts
63 months
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Cheib said: mikemc88 said: Agree.
We now have players who can chip in with the goals and reduce the burden on him. Only possible concern he may have is defense, as we can score goals but no good if we concede just as many. We let in an awful lot last season, mainly down to injuries and not being able to field the same back 4 for more than 2 games! Maybe he was looking for us to sign another CB or full back. Not entirely sure but I would say we have made the signings to convince him he should stay.
What looks promising is that when you have Arteta, Wilshere, etc all fit along with the new signings, we will actually have a good squad, and can bring on players who could make a difference. There were some games last season where you got the feeling no one on the bench could come on and change the game if things were going wrong. Nail.Head. Made some great signings BUT they are all offensive players and our biggest issue was conceding 49 goals in the Premier League last year....maybe Steve Bould can work wonders on the training ground ? Is Sahin a defensive midfielder ? Having said they I think most of the problem was the cover afforded by our midfield....there were numerous goals scored against us last year where the midfield went to sleep/failed to track back. He's not defensive as in a classical sense but he doesn't bomb forward he just sits and plays the ball around. Like a Scholes/Carrick/Alonso would do.
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Booey
6,529 posts
49 months
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flasher
9,153 posts
153 months
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^ so true, RVP can hardly accuse Arsenal of a lack of ambition having spent £40m which by my reckoning is more than any other premier league club this summer. Sign the contract RVP or f  k off!
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Booey
6,529 posts
49 months
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That's it Flash. We need to know one way or the other ASAP. If he is lucky enough to stay, he does not deserve to be captain for next season to be honest after rogering us like that with his website statement.
He must be contemplating staying put after the evident change in transfer policy and with the quality we are bringing in. Plus, why go and live in Manchester or Italy? Both are like stepping in a time machine.
If we bring in a quality defensive midfielder and a versatile defender we could have a very good season indeed. I an looking forward to it.
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MrMagoo
1,644 posts
31 months
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So RVP lines up with the Man U team at the Emirates. He's name gets read out, do you boo or cheer? il personally stay quiet.
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car crazy
1,796 posts
32 months
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MrMagoo said: So RVP lines up with the Man U team at the Emirates. He's name gets read out, do you boo or cheer? il personally stay quiet. I'll be cheering, although he wasn't that clever when we did you 8_2 at old Trafford  (he did score though) 
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bikerPaul
885 posts
79 months
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MrMagoo said: So RVP lines up with the Man U team at the Emirates. He's name gets read out, do you boo or cheer? il personally stay quiet. I've mulled this over in my head a few times. There's a bigger part of me thinking we've stuck by him through his early petulant days and the injuries that are greater than his last seasons efforts. And maybe a few other goals here and there. I think I'll wait and see how the moment takes me IF it happens. 
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Gun
11,718 posts
87 months
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If he does go they'd better spend the entire tranfer fee on replacing him.
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Black can man
10,989 posts
37 months
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I really don't like this RVP to Man utd , How do you explain signing for one of your biggest traditional rivals , Arsenal have done everything right with the player , they have invested in some decent players & offered the man a colosal amount of money to stay & still it's not enough . I would love to see them say b ks to the cash & make him sit in the stands & train with the juniors , Ungrateful dutch f kwit
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Cheib
6,238 posts
44 months
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If he signs for Man U he'll get a very bad reception when he comes back to The Emirates I reckon. Only thing worse could be going up the Seven Sister's Road.
Think Martin Keown/Van Nistelroy, Pizzagate, Vieira/Keane.....
I reckon he started out on this thinking he could go to City and they can't or won't pay up because of FFP....and now he's left with Man U or Juve as his choice.
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essexplumber
7,286 posts
42 months
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Black can man said: I really don't like this RVP to Man utd , How do you explain signing for one of your biggest traditional rivals , Arsenal have done everything right with the player , they have invested in some decent players & offered the man a colosal amount of money to stay & still it's not enough . I would love to see them say b ks to the cash & make him sit in the stands & train with the juniors , Ungrateful dutch f kwit This. Bad darts.
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Keyser Soze
10,944 posts
60 months
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essexplumber said: Black can man said: I really don't like this RVP to Man utd , How do you explain signing for one of your biggest traditional rivals , Arsenal have done everything right with the player , they have invested in some decent players & offered the man a colosal amount of money to stay & still it's not enough . I would love to see them say b ks to the cash & make him sit in the stands & train with the juniors , Ungrateful dutch f kwit This. Bad darts. Riiiiiiight So if he took leave of all his senses and decided to join Spurs , you would be outraged? Yeah right you would both cream yourselves and be on this thread Wumming your little hearts out before the ink was dry on the paper
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Trophybloo
645 posts
56 months
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Black can man said: I really don't like this RVP to Man utd , How do you explain signing for one of your biggest traditional rivals , Arsenal have done everything right with the player , they have invested in some decent players & offered the man a colosal amount of money to stay & still it's not enough . I would love to see them say b ks to the cash & make him sit in the stands & train with the juniors , Ungrateful dutch f kwit And that's the way it's shaping up as Man U appear not to have a pot in which to urinate. If they wouldn't pay for the Brazilian Wunderkind then they aint going to stump up £25M (special price to them apparently) for RvP. All the posturing by Taggart is so much transparent mind-gamery.
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mylesmcd
1,169 posts
88 months
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from the BBC gossip column;
Arsenal will not sell Robin van Persie, 29, for less than £20m and will demand an extra £5m if Manchester United make an offer for the striker.
Full story: Daily Mirror
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Dutchman Van Persie has been offered the same £220,000-a-week contract as the current top earner Wayne Rooney to make the move to Old Trafford.
Full story: Daily Telegraph
So, Juve offered 8m...and the offer was rejected.
Utd offered £15m....and Arsenal say they want £25m if he goes to Utd. (If they do offer this, I would take it, tbf.)
So it looks like City wont offer. Juve are out and Arsenal want 5m more if he goes to Utd (plus the £220k per week) Meaning, we either get top dollar for him or we keep him for another year!?!
Win/win!!
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Trophybloo
645 posts
56 months
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mylesmcd said: from the BBC gossip column;
Arsenal will not sell Robin van Persie, 29, for less than £20m and will demand an extra £5m if Manchester United make an offer for the striker.
Full story: Daily Mirror
and
Dutchman Van Persie has been offered the same £220,000-a-week contract as the current top earner Wayne Rooney to make the move to Old Trafford.
Full story: Daily Telegraph
So, Juve offered 8m...and the offer was rejected.
Utd offered £15m....and Arsenal say they want £25m if he goes to Utd. (If they do offer this, I would take it, tbf.)
So it looks like City wont offer. Juve are out and Arsenal want 5m more if he goes to Utd (plus the £220k per week) Meaning, we either get top dollar for him or we keep him for another year!?!
Win/win!! Yep agree with your conclusion, just one small detail Arsenal are saying they haven't had an offer from Utd. Can't believe what the Manc rags are reporting.
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flasher
9,153 posts
153 months
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Why does he want to go to Manyoo anyway. Unless it escaped me they won f k all last season too!!
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Trophybloo
645 posts
56 months
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flasher said: Why does he want to go to Manyoo anyway. Unless it escaped me they won f k all last season too!! 220,000 reasons a week perhaps?
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mylesmcd
1,169 posts
88 months
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Trophybloo said: mylesmcd said: from the BBC gossip column;
Arsenal will not sell Robin van Persie, 29, for less than £20m and will demand an extra £5m if Manchester United make an offer for the striker.
Full story: Daily Mirror
and
Dutchman Van Persie has been offered the same £220,000-a-week contract as the current top earner Wayne Rooney to make the move to Old Trafford.
Full story: Daily Telegraph
So, Juve offered 8m...and the offer was rejected.
Utd offered £15m....and Arsenal say they want £25m if he goes to Utd. (If they do offer this, I would take it, tbf.)
So it looks like City wont offer. Juve are out and Arsenal want 5m more if he goes to Utd (plus the £220k per week) Meaning, we either get top dollar for him or we keep him for another year!?!
Win/win!! Yep agree with your conclusion, just one small detail Arsenal are saying they haven't had an offer from Utd. Can't believe what the Manc rags are reporting. Utd saying (reported a quote from Fergie..) they have made a bid, and have heard nothing back from Arsenal. Could be unsettling tactics however..
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