CPC exemption - exhibition stand builder....

CPC exemption - exhibition stand builder....

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Original Poster:

264 posts

148 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Three or four times a year my boss asks me to drive a 7.5 ton truck from the workshop to site (ExCeL, NEC etc). I would be carrying the materials to build a stand, tools and possibly a colleague (another tool to build the stand!). It would seem that the below from this link (https://www.gov.uk/driver-cpc-exemptions-examples#vehicles-carrying-material-or-equipment-to-be-used-in-the-course-of-the-drivers-work) that I don't need CPC. How would it work if I was pulled?

The relevant passage:

Vehicles carrying material or equipment to be used in the course of the driver’s work
You don’t need Driver CPC if you’re carrying equipment or material that you’ll use in the course of your work, provided that driving the vehicle is not the main part of your job.

This includes:

trade tools
goods such as building materials or cables to be used by the driver in the course of their work
extra crew like a mechanics mate or any other person needed for the job
Driver A
Driver A is a mobile lorry fitter. They drive a vehicle from one operator’s site to another site where they take their tools from the vehicle to do their main activity of servicing lorries. They do not need Driver CPC. If they use engine diagnostic kit that’s fixed within the vehicle, they would also be covered by the exemption because the vehicle carries material or equipment for their use on site.

Driver B
Driver B is a self-employed bricklayer and drives their lorry to a building site with a load of bricks. They unload the bricks and use them in the construction of a house. They don’t need to have Driver CPC because driving the lorry is not their main activity and they’re carrying materials for their use in the course of bricklaying.

Marvin Trill

35 posts

131 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Good luck convincing VOSA/DVSA that driving isn't your main job. I do driving (HGV) for an exhibition company and one of our drivers tried to use this excuse as not to get CPC card. The transport manager then spoke to DVSA. They claimed that as said driver had spent a good chunk of his day driving and he had help at the exhibition. DVSA are self funded so any fines they can give out they will. Also they said they dont want any driver at all working over 15 hours in 1 day (ie doing a breakdown all day and then driving) And as you know many days on the exhibition many days go over 15 hours). End of the day it's your risk, stay safe and let us know how you get on!

Edited by Marvin Trill on Thursday 27th November 14:39

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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I would think the lack of driving records held by the OP would prove driving isn't is main job?

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

167 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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I work on a farm. We grow wheat and rape among other stuff. Some of the wheat and rape we grow we use for seed. A contractor comes in with a lorry all kitted out with the seed dresser on it and was built specifically for this job. I can't remember what it is registered as (it might be a farm vehicle), but it's not a LGV, they don't use the tacho or need Class II. But.... the vehicle gets treated the same as a LGV, tests and all that lot and the drivers are licensed and CPC'd up. They just carry a document (from VOSA when they had it built) in the cab saying, "this aint a lorry mate, nothing to see here" (I am paraphrasing).

Silent1

19,761 posts

235 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Willy Nilly said:
I work on a farm. We grow wheat and rape among other stuff. Some of the wheat and rape we grow we use for seed. A contractor comes in with a lorry all kitted out with the seed dresser on it and was built specifically for this job. I can't remember what it is registered as (it might be a farm vehicle), but it's not a LGV, they don't use the tacho or need Class II. But.... the vehicle gets treated the same as a LGV, tests and all that lot and the drivers are licensed and CPC'd up. They just carry a document (from VOSA when they had it built) in the cab saying, "this aint a lorry mate, nothing to see here" (I am paraphrasing).
IIRC the chap who comes and does ours is registered as an agricultural vehicle and has twin tanks so he can run on red when dressing, i always thought they were limited to field to field travel etc, but i guess he gets round it by being a contractor.

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Original Poster:

264 posts

148 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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Just wondering if the fact that the 7.5 ton trucks are hired (we don't run any from our yard) has any bearing on this...