RE: Right-hand-drive De Tomaso Pantera for sale

RE: Right-hand-drive De Tomaso Pantera for sale

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Panamax

4,050 posts

35 months

Thursday 18th April
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Love these cars! Do I have the guts to own one? No...

See also; Maserati Bora.

C5_Steve

3,099 posts

104 months

Thursday 18th April
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That is a stunning example, always loved the Pantera. For me thought I actually prefer the widebody winged ones (GTS?) over the original. Probably sacrilege like preferring the later Countach over the original but I jus think the wider stance and lower looks suit it better.

Rumdoodle

709 posts

21 months

Thursday 18th April
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Matt_T said:
Needs the original Campagnolo wheels...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/two-sets-of-de...



Edited by Matt_T on Thursday 18th April 15:33
£500 for two sets!

Iamnotkloot

1,428 posts

148 months

Thursday 18th April
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Rumdoodle said:
Matt_T said:
Needs the original Campagnolo wheels...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/two-sets-of-de...



Edited by Matt_T on Thursday 18th April 15:33
£500 for two sets!
Love it! Much nicer with the original wheels.....

chazwozza

729 posts

187 months

Thursday 18th April
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Black wheels and minor interior details aside, I love it. Plus pop up headlights = instant cool

swisstoni

17,026 posts

280 months

Thursday 18th April
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Some piece of new ‘prestige’ crap for £130k or this?
I kmow what I’d prefer.

Turbobanana

6,285 posts

202 months

Thursday 18th April
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The way PH displays on my screen puts these two next to the main article:



So for £55K less I could have a more tasteful, more original car with a bit of TV history thrown in? Where do I sign?

And come on, PH: was it 5 references to the steering wheel being on the right (ie non-original) in the same article? It may be slightly more convenient on the odd occasion you choose to take your rare Italian supercar into a shopping centre car park, but is it really worth £55K more?

Hairymonster

1,430 posts

106 months

Thursday 18th April
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I know the Ghia badge on the car indicates who it was styled by, but that doesn't half look like someone's nicked it off a tinselled Ford Sierra and stuck it on the side of this!

Skeptisk

7,503 posts

110 months

Thursday 18th April
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Turbobanana said:
The way PH displays on my screen puts these two next to the main article:



So for £55K less I could have a more tasteful, more original car with a bit of TV history thrown in? Where do I sign?

And come on, PH: was it 5 references to the steering wheel being on the right (ie non-original) in the same article? It may be slightly more convenient on the odd occasion you choose to take your rare Italian supercar into a shopping centre car park, but is it really worth £55K more?
The trouble with such cars is that they can look lovely from the outside but underneath they are hiding a most of problems. I am not saying the blue one does. The advert already states something odd though. It says its early life was in the US - where it made an appearance in Breaking Bad. BB didn’t start filming until the car was 30-40 years old so not sure how that works.

AMTony

1,077 posts

168 months

Thursday 18th April
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Iamnotkloot said:
Rumdoodle said:
Matt_T said:
Needs the original Campagnolo wheels...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/two-sets-of-de...



Edited by Matt_T on Thursday 18th April 15:33
£500 for two sets!
Love it! Much nicer with the original wheels.....
Original wheels on Panteras are 8’s and 7’s.
The one showing original wheels above are actually 8’s up front and 10’s on the rear - they fill the arches and thats why it looks so good.
I actually know this car and it’s completely reliable and finished to a very high standard.
Sounds fantastic and goes like the proverbial clappers!

J4CKO

41,608 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th April
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Pantera must be one of the best car names ever, do prefer them with the big wheel arch extensions though,

Augustus Windsock

3,370 posts

156 months

Thursday 18th April
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Skeptisk said:
Turbobanana said:
The way PH displays on my screen puts these two next to the main article:



So for £55K less I could have a more tasteful, more original car with a bit of TV history thrown in? Where do I sign?

And come on, PH: was it 5 references to the steering wheel being on the right (ie non-original) in the same article? It may be slightly more convenient on the odd occasion you choose to take your rare Italian supercar into a shopping centre car park, but is it really worth £55K more?
The trouble with such cars is that they can look lovely from the outside but underneath they are hiding a most of problems. I am not saying the blue one does. The advert already states something odd though. It says its early life was in the US - where it made an appearance in Breaking Bad. BB didn’t start filming until the car was 30-40 years old so not sure how that works.
Must admit I prefer the GT5-S with the wide arches and rear spoiler, somehow it looks more ‘balanced’ to me.

As an aside, the blue one did appear in Breaking Bad but it’s a tenuous link as it wasn’t driven iirc
Jesse, Gus and (another who I cannot remember) were looking for a car for a quick getaway with keys in the ignition.
I seem to remember the car was locked, but the question is how they would fit three men into a 2 seater..?

As a second aside, I drove an early Pantera last year, quite hard work (I think it helps to have leg muscles like Thor tbh), slightly odd driving position even in LHD form, especially if you are 6’ or above, but it didn’t half shift. Personally I think the advantage of having one is the drivetrain is easy to work on, parts for which are readily available etc but could you live with one on a regular basis compared to say a Ferrari or similar would be my thought…?


TheMilkyBarKid

545 posts

30 months

Thursday 18th April
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Definitely look better on the original Campagnolo wheels but I like what they’ve done with this and the price doesn’t seem excessive to me by any means when compared to other much less potent contemporaries from the 70’s.

Stateside PHer Ted Berg has a heavily modded/updated Pantera in red that he’s owned for decades as I recall?

Justin-ow582

142 posts

106 months

Thursday 18th April
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Matt_T said:
Needs the original Campagnolo wheels...
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/two-sets-of-de...



Edited by Matt_T on Thursday 18th April 15:33
Exacty. Big diameter modern wheels with low profile tyres on a 70's car rarely works.
Give me the original smaller wheels on baloon tyres any day.

DodgyGeezer

40,513 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th April
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if you're looking restomod (albeit massively more expensive...). I just adore this cloud9 (though the wheels could be a touch smaller!!)


Earthdweller

13,588 posts

127 months

Thursday 18th April
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You’ve been tango’’d !

Seriously though, fabulous thing smile

biggbn

23,415 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th April
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Panamax said:
Love these cars! Do I have the guts to own one? No...

See also; Maserati Bora.
Bora my dream 70s supercar, but the name does t really fit. The Maserati buyer wouldn't have been looking at...anything else? More of a super gt of its day, civilised, usable, stunning.

biggbn

23,415 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th April
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I really liked the gas monkey pantera!

hidetheelephants

24,440 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th April
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Ray_Aber said:
I don't for one minute think that the original car is brash. It's quite elegant. It became brash in the 1980s when all manner of addenda was applied to the car. If this is brash, so is an Aston Martin V8, Maserati Bora, Monteverdi Hai and Dino 246.

This is a lovely looking car, with an "in period" colour choice. What jars are the black wheels. Panteras did not, to my knowledge, ever have black wheels. They just look gash/naff/chav/vulgar (insert adjective). Silver wheels are far more in keeping with the car. I did a quick google image search. The only picture that came up in the first 10 rows with black wheels was this one.

I'll take an unrestomodded one though, thanks, and for considerably less.
That; the wheels look st and so do the tyres, the aesthetic has been spoiled because it's apparently fashionable.

Rumdoodle

709 posts

21 months

Thursday 18th April
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This one https://classicandsportscar.ltd.uk/de-tomaso-pante... has been listed for sale for probably two years. I prefer the classic, early model look (even if it starts to take off at 100mph) and if they'd take £60k, I might be a punter for it. At £80k plus, it's apparently had no takers.