Who has the best Garage on Pistonheads?
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Roo said:
Nice garage Frodo. I'd be more than happy with that.
Falconwood. That shot of your cars at night looks like a picture people could hang their garage walls as inspiration, or just art.
Thank you for the compliment. I took all the covers off today to turn them over and left them off so that I had an excuse to go in this evening to put them all back on again and just dwell!!!! It is great with those lights on at night. Falconwood. That shot of your cars at night looks like a picture people could hang their garage walls as inspiration, or just art.
aww999 said:
I might do better with a separate topic on this, but maybe a garage-owner on this thread can help. My new house has a built-in double garage, with master bedroom suite above it. The garage has two single doors, and a breezeblock dividing wall that runs from the doors halfway into the garage itself which makes actually working on a car in there rather tricky.
1) Would it be possible to get the dividing wall knocked down and replaced with a steel to support the weight of the house above it?
2) Is the bedrom above it likely to get mucked up during the process (walls are mainly plasterboard and due some redecoration, but floors are tiled and I am worried about them cracking)
3) How much?
It sounds easy enough for a competent builder. If they used enough acro props you shouldn't get too much cracking above 1) Would it be possible to get the dividing wall knocked down and replaced with a steel to support the weight of the house above it?
2) Is the bedrom above it likely to get mucked up during the process (walls are mainly plasterboard and due some redecoration, but floors are tiled and I am worried about them cracking)
3) How much?
for a couple of steels, a skip, a builder and a new double door (you'd be mental to keep the 2 singles if you're going to the trouble) I'd guess at £2-3k
FalconWood said:
Thank you for the compliment. I took all the covers off today to turn them over and left them off so that I had an excuse to go in this evening to put them all back on again and just dwell!!!! It is great with those lights on at night.
Falconwood is clearly well placed to answer the question "Ah, but does it make them happy?" As I have always suspected, the answer is "Hell yes!" aww999 said:
My new house has a built-in double garage, with master bedroom suite above it. The garage has two single doors, and a breezeblock dividing wall that runs from the doors halfway into the garage itself which makes actually working on a car in there rather tricky.
1) Would it be possible to get the dividing wall knocked down and replaced with a steel to support the weight of the house above it?
2) Is the bedrom above it likely to get mucked up during the process (walls are mainly plasterboard and due some redecoration, but floors are tiled and I am worried about them cracking)
3) How much?
Yes1) Would it be possible to get the dividing wall knocked down and replaced with a steel to support the weight of the house above it?
2) Is the bedrom above it likely to get mucked up during the process (walls are mainly plasterboard and due some redecoration, but floors are tiled and I am worried about them cracking)
3) How much?
No
I've just done this and it took 2 of us 1 day to acro and demolish the wall but we needed help to lift the 300kg steel up (which cost £250) the S Eng charged £50 for calculating the beam size. I left it with two doors as I think it looks better - albeit mine are 8' wide. I'd expect you should be able to get a builder to do it for around £1k
Greg_D said:
It sounds easy enough for a competent builder. If they used enough acro props you shouldn't get too much cracking above. for a couple of steels, a skip, a builder and a new double door (you'd be mental to keep the 2 singles if you're going to the trouble) I'd guess at £2-3k
Surely the steel will need to be a serious piece of metal to support the top half of a building rather than just a wide roof? I'd have thought the steel alone would be a grand?
I obviously have no idea 
So.., how much are big steels? I have exactly the same situation, a double garage with 2 single doors and a significant sized pier say 4' x 18" holding up the front of my house which has the main sitting room over the top. What do the builders among you reckon in answer to the question? 
p.s. just read your other post but did you have a house above when you did it? Or does this not make any difference?
So.., how much are big steels? I have exactly the same situation, a double garage with 2 single doors and a significant sized pier say 4' x 18" holding up the front of my house which has the main sitting room over the top. What do the builders among you reckon in answer to the question? p.s. just read your other post but did you have a house above when you did it? Or does this not make any difference?
Edited by RichB on Thursday 19th February 19:54
RichB said:
just read your other post but did you have a house above when you did it? Or does this not make any difference?
I'm not a Struct Eng. but from what I can see the main issue is the length and to ensure it doesn't flex the size is such that the load (ie a roof or a second floor) is almost irrelevant - normal residential loads are relatively low.I did fit a larger one last year which I specified must be oversized as my friend had just had her bathroom above retiled in stone with a 1mm joint so any movement would have been a disaster. It was HUGE and IIRC was £350 with approx 5m span.
£350 
wow, I'm amazed. I've lived with the hassle of double doors for 20 years mainly because I've always assumed it would be a costly exercise structurally but you have given me some cause for thought. Here's the pier I have to contend with supporting the room above. I think there's probably also a steel going into it at 90 degs which you can see boxed in under the ceiling.
wow, I'm amazed. I've lived with the hassle of double doors for 20 years mainly because I've always assumed it would be a costly exercise structurally but you have given me some cause for thought. Here's the pier I have to contend with supporting the room above. I think there's probably also a steel going into it at 90 degs which you can see boxed in under the ceiling. Edited by RichB on Thursday 19th February 20:48
Ah, that's different, you now need a steel that will also take the load of the other steel at it's midpoint and you won't want to lose height so you'll need a thicker section.
You'll probably need a new steel in the middle (I doubt it's full length looking at the size of that pier) and I'd expect them to be bolted together - two steels and a bit of fabrication you could well be looking at £700+
You'll probably need a new steel in the middle (I doubt it's full length looking at the size of that pier) and I'd expect them to be bolted together - two steels and a bit of fabrication you could well be looking at £700+
Renovation said:
...You'll probably need a new steel in the middle (I doubt it's full length looking at the size of that pier)
Yes, I would think so. Also, to add the potential complications, that bit of ceiling over the TVR that's a few inches lower than the surrounding area is a slab underneath a large inglenook fireplace in the sitting room. I've never figured out how that's supported! RichB said:
Renovation said:
...You'll probably need a new steel in the middle (I doubt it's full length looking at the size of that pier)
Yes, I would think so. Also, to add the potential complications, that bit of ceiling over the TVR that's a few inches lower than the surrounding area is a slab underneath a large inglenook fireplace in the sitting room. I've never figured out how that's supported! 
I do 
at 40% too
Anyway, back to garages again... Tyre racks now up (apart from another one I'm waiting to be delivered - will go to the left of those shown below). Illuminated signage also in along with some banners. Water pump attacked with a grinder fitted with a clean/strip disc, and painted:
The workbenches below will be sorted once I relocate some of my wife's Spitfire bits (the wheels, gorilla boxes etc you can see on top). The RH side will be my workbench with bench grinder, pillar drill, chop saw, vice and metal folder. The LH side will contain tools, hifi and kettle (all essentials!). Underneath will be for tool/compressor/welder storage with some space for parts (there's also storage for parts in the eaves):
Also put some art on the back of the doors! Second coat has already gone on the floor, and I'll fit the door seals tomorrow morning:
Next pics should hopefully have it all sorted with the cars in! Then once I've finished the rest of the house I'll be able to actually use it
at 40% too Anyway, back to garages again... Tyre racks now up (apart from another one I'm waiting to be delivered - will go to the left of those shown below). Illuminated signage also in
along with some banners. Water pump attacked with a grinder fitted with a clean/strip disc, and painted:
The workbenches below will be sorted once I relocate some of my wife's Spitfire bits (the wheels, gorilla boxes etc you can see on top). The RH side will be my workbench with bench grinder, pillar drill, chop saw, vice and metal folder. The LH side will contain tools, hifi and kettle (all essentials!). Underneath will be for tool/compressor/welder storage with some space for parts (there's also storage for parts in the eaves):
Also put some art on the back of the doors! Second coat has already gone on the floor, and I'll fit the door seals tomorrow morning:
Next pics should hopefully have it all sorted with the cars in! Then once I've finished the rest of the house I'll be able to actually use it
Edited by frodo_monkey on Friday 27th February 09:27
Edited by frodo_monkey on Friday 27th February 09:28
frodo_monkey said:
I do at 40% too
Anyway, back to garages again... Tyre racks now up (apart from another one I'm waiting to be delivered - will go to the left of those shown below). Illuminated signage also in along with some banners. Water pump attacked with a grinder fitted with a clean/strip disc, and painted:
The workbenches below will be sorted once I relocate some of my wife's Spitfire bits (the wheels, gorilla boxes etc you can see on top). The RH side will be my workbench with bench grinder, pillar drill, chop saw, vice and metal folder. The LH side will contain tools, hifi and kettle (all essentials!). Underneath will be for tool/compressor/welder storage with some space for parts (there's also storage for parts in the eaves):
Also put some art on the back of the doors! Second coat has already gone on the floor, and I'll fit the door seals tomorrow morning:
Next pics should hopefully have it all sorted with the cars in! Then once I've finished the rest of the house I'll be able to actually use it
Where did you get the tyre racks? Or did you make them? at 40% too Anyway, back to garages again... Tyre racks now up (apart from another one I'm waiting to be delivered - will go to the left of those shown below). Illuminated signage also in
along with some banners. Water pump attacked with a grinder fitted with a clean/strip disc, and painted:
The workbenches below will be sorted once I relocate some of my wife's Spitfire bits (the wheels, gorilla boxes etc you can see on top). The RH side will be my workbench with bench grinder, pillar drill, chop saw, vice and metal folder. The LH side will contain tools, hifi and kettle (all essentials!). Underneath will be for tool/compressor/welder storage with some space for parts (there's also storage for parts in the eaves):
Also put some art on the back of the doors! Second coat has already gone on the floor, and I'll fit the door seals tomorrow morning:
Next pics should hopefully have it all sorted with the cars in! Then once I've finished the rest of the house I'll be able to actually use it
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