992 Turbo S issues-Right to reject

slightly off topic, but is this a UK specific consumer protection law? From a (very brief) look it seems like in the EU you have the mandatory minimum 2-year warranty (Ferrari screwed me on that one at some point on an exhaust and I just could not be bothered to fight them all the way), but that clearly states repair, replace, refund - I interpret it as a replacement or refund is only available if it cannot be repaired

"The 2-year guarantee period starts as soon as you receive your goods. If a defect becomes apparent within 1 year of delivery, you don't have to prove it existed at the time of delivery. It is assumed that it did unless the seller can prove otherwise. You can ask the seller to repair or replace the product, give you a price reduction, or give you your money back if repair or replacement is not possible.

In some EU countries, this period may be 2 years."

It seems that it is unique to the UK, a brexit bonus some would say. The question is from a manufacturer’s perspective is it sustainable? Do they have the margin in the product to cover such incidents? If not they’ll limit products to the uk and the same folk stating that it’s fine will bemoan such a move.

That said, I get where the op and others are coming from now. The op is a baller - a top 1% earner that can afford to drop £200k on a depreciating asset because he can. Such individuals demand excellence from their retail partners and will not bat an eyelid in giving them a kicking if they fall short. As to the definition of what falling short means, the EU has one definition the uk another.

Porsche chooses to sell high end products with huge margins and play with the rich and famous and know that they have to deliver the goods or they’ll get a bloody nose, which is where the op is coming from I guess.

All that said, I come back to my main concern: if this practice becomes widespread in the UK, we’ll all end up as losers. Some can’t see that far ahead it seems.

Assuming I wasn't just trying to get out of the car, I'd let them have another go to fix it on the basis they agreed the return period would be extended by another 6 months. Looking on Porsche forums, it seems a similar issue has occurred a few times and the initial fix (to replace sensors or whatnot) doesn't fix the underlying issue (which looks like it might relate a different faulty component potentially from a new supplier Porsche are using).

So the chances are their second attempt would have resolved the problem permanently.

You're a true man of the people Maz.

I actually think fair consumer protection saves everyone money (and hassle) in the long run. It's an incentive for the manufacturers to maximise reliability and not rush products out of the door. I assume that there is an overall net saving that way. I am allowed one assumption, right?

I still don't know how one is supposed to know a brand new car is going to develop a fault though in order to play the system. Whoever suggested that is either very bright or very thick.

Yes I remember those days when the pound was still worth something

Only the OP can know if this was an option ... if it might have been one would have thought that the supplying OPC might have suggested it. Confidence is a fickle thing and nobody would want to be stuck with a £150k lemon. It really is for manufactures to ensure that general customers are not involved in beta testing ... accepted a problem when modern cars are becoming so complicated and supply chain disruptions such a headache.

It's a particularly problem also where such a high percentage of the new price is lost the moment the car drives out of the showroom ...

Having followed this thread, I would have taken the same approach as the OP. Nothing to do with the money but 2 faults in quick succession notionally with the same symptoms has significant problem written all over it.

If Porsche fully understood the problem they would fix it successfully first time, add in the dealer putting the OP at the back of the service queue just damages your confidence like they are playing for time.

The high purchase price just puts your concerns and OPC actions under more intense scrutiny.

Not sure the comment about losing a large % driving out of the showroom really applies to something like a Turbo S due to rarity, you will of course lose the VAT paid but wouldn't be at all surprised if a fault free version went for overs relative to list.

Your point is made up gobbledygook that is why no one gets, whatever it is, you've said it, now shoosh a little and stop filling the thread with nonsense.

Serious answers.

I wasn’t judging the OP. I don’t know enough about the problem with the car or its seriousness.

I didn’t mention taste; it was distasteful behaviour I spoke about. I don’t care one way or the other about OPCs and overs. Do they do anything illegal? I don’t think there’s a market for overs by the way. I’ve not met anyone who wanted one.