powerful naturally aspirated v8 for £30k max
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Turbinox said:
I've already heard about the 5.5 as a super engine. 6.2 better obviously. have you been able to drive cars equipped with one of its 2 engines? if so, do you think they will check the box in the seat-push acceleration and low-end torque department?
The 5.5 is linear it'll engage you but it won't pin you in the seat.The 6.2 will but you'll want one with the LSD (or budget to get one fitted) as it makes a big difference to the way it puts the power to the road.
Also with the C63 you'll want to get it mapped so you can get actual full throttle.
Between my OH & myself we've had a few & I still have my CLK55/63, if there's something specific you'd like to know feel free to ask.
ZX10R NIN said:
Turbinox said:
I've already heard about the 5.5 as a super engine. 6.2 better obviously. have you been able to drive cars equipped with one of its 2 engines? if so, do you think they will check the box in the seat-push acceleration and low-end torque department?
The 5.5 is linear it'll engage you but it won't pin you in the seat.The 6.2 will but you'll want one with the LSD (or budget to get one fitted) as it makes a big difference to the way it puts the power to the road.
Also with the C63 you'll want to get it mapped so you can get actual full throttle.
Between my OH & myself we've had a few & I still have my CLK55/63, if there's something specific you'd like to know feel free to ask.
Edited by Turbinox on Thursday 25th April 20:41
Turbinox said:
so the cl550 is not a push in the seat but the 63 is, when is it the 55? in clk or c form. I really like the small car and luxurious interior combination of the C55
The 5.5 N/A V8 will hold you in your seat when accelerating but it won't pin you like the 6.2 does, The extra displacement & toque are a factor in this.Edited by Turbinox on Thursday 25th April 20:41
I find the 55 a more relaxing drive but the 63 is the more exciting one.
I never felt short changed with the 55, the 63 is just more of everything.
ZX10R NIN said:
Turbinox said:
so the cl550 is not a push in the seat but the 63 is, when is it the 55? in clk or c form. I really like the small car and luxurious interior combination of the C55
The 5.5 N/A V8 will hold you in your seat when accelerating but it won't pin you like the 6.2 does, The extra displacement & toque are a factor in this.Edited by Turbinox on Thursday 25th April 20:41
I find the 55 a more relaxing drive but the 63 is the more exciting one.
I never felt short changed with the 55, the 63 is just more of everything.
Edited by Turbinox on Thursday 25th April 21:48
cerb4.5lee said:
Max power is 8300rpm in the E9x M3, and the redline is 8400rpm. The engine is like a V8 VTEC in some ways I reckon. Nothing happens lower down the revs, but they are ace at 6000rpm plus though for sure.
E9x M3 is cross plane and not flat plane as far as I'm aware.
Of course... Corrected. Cross plane with flat plane like delivery. The real racing version had flat plane conversionE9x M3 is cross plane and not flat plane as far as I'm aware.
carlo996 said:
Has to be an LS engine for what you desires 'if' you want NA. Lexus is also a great option.
The "push back in the seat" sensation is strong in the GM product. Physics are not my strong point, but even a stock standard 300kw Holden will throw your head back harder some of the 400kw+ double clutch stuff of late.
I do understand the want of that sensation though, especially if you have kids, I remember ridding in the back of fast Holdens in the 90's and 00's as a child and there is something special about that sensation that just makes any child smile and think their dad is a legend.
There is also the added bonus of not having to explain why we are waiting for "road side rescue" to come to your wife and kids because you went with something old and European. As cool as they look, there is nothing cool about standing next to your 10 year old German s
t box with a rainbow of fluids leaking out of it making a rainbow effect on the road. The VE/VF Commodore platform was modeled on the E39 5 serries and it has been noted by a few reputable peddlers that the VE/VF is a modern equivalent of the E39 but with more power and parts that start from 50c.
Turbinox said:
FMOB said:
I don't think the OP is going to find the turbo 'shove' they want from a normally aspirated engine.
even with a big torque/hp like the c63? or other mentioned in the discussion threadKIWIRS said:
carlo996 said:
Has to be an LS engine for what you desires 'if' you want NA. Lexus is also a great option.
The "push back in the seat" sensation is strong in the GM product. Physics are not my strong point, but even a stock standard 300kw Holden will throw your head back harder some of the 400kw+ double clutch stuff of late.
I do understand the want of that sensation though, especially if you have kids, I remember ridding in the back of fast Holdens in the 90's and 00's as a child and there is something special about that sensation that just makes any child smile and think their dad is a legend.
There is also the added bonus of not having to explain why we are waiting for "road side rescue" to come to your wife and kids because you went with something old and European. As cool as they look, there is nothing cool about standing next to your 10 year old German s
t box with a rainbow of fluids leaking out of it making a rainbow effect on the road. The VE/VF Commodore platform was modeled on the E39 5 serries and it has been noted by a few reputable peddlers that the VE/VF is a modern equivalent of the E39 but with more power and parts that start from 50c.
Camaro ss 6.2 with ls engine, 4 seats, manual option like holden and vauxhall?
carlo996 said:
Turbinox said:
even with a big torque/hp like the c63? or other mentioned in the discussion thread
To be honest, you're shooting down every option, so I think at this point you have the options and should drive the shortlist.and I don't reject everything I keep:
63 amg
5.5 e500 clk 500 m273
m5 e39
quattroporte 4.7
Ken_Code said:
Turbinox said:
I have already tried the 4.2 Audi, it revs up!!!. but, I did not feel any type of acceleration (strong push in the seat), surely there is little torque for the weight
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