Potholes

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ashleyman

6,990 posts

100 months

Monday 22nd April
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MightyBadger said:
Im going to go out and highlight the ones round here with spraypaint so people can avoid them and not damage their vehicles.
There is one roundabout near me that is so bad and the council won't fix it. I was tempted to go and 'spray paint' it but we have London to Brighton bike ride coming through and I am hoping they all fall off and the council gets embarrassed. OIt's the only reason I haven't been out with my spray paint!

Forester1965

1,612 posts

4 months

Monday 22nd April
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Be careful spraying the road. Criminal damage and civil liability potential.

Arguably better to have more people damage their vehicles to create pressure on the authorities to act, too.

Digga

40,373 posts

284 months

Monday 22nd April
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Forester1965 said:
Be careful spraying the road. Criminal damage and civil liability potential.

Arguably better to have more people damage their vehicles to create pressure on the authorities to act, too.
The fking irony of the assmetry here.

Goverment's utter negligence goes unpunished, but try to plaint pothioles to help others avoid them and persuade highways to fix them and you are a criminal.

Democracy is fked really. One of the biggest grips most working age adults have and no political party even wants to talk about it, let alone make any promises.

rev-erend

21,421 posts

285 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Until recently I used to regularly report deep and dangerous potholes but not any more.

A mate hit a large pothole and nearly feel off his motorbike and had to be relayed home. Damaged the front wheel beyond repair and took loads of pictures.

When he reported the issue and tried to claim for the wheel and tyre they claimed it was already reported and that they have 7 days to repair it. Instant get out of jail free card.

Moral of story is not to report them.

swisstoni

17,058 posts

280 months

Wednesday 24th April
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rev-erend said:
Until recently I used to regularly report deep and dangerous potholes but not any more.

A mate hit a large pothole and nearly feel off his motorbike and had to be relayed home. Damaged the front wheel beyond repair and took loads of pictures.

When he reported the issue and tried to claim for the wheel and tyre they claimed it was already reported and that they have 7 days to repair it. Instant get out of jail free card.

Moral of story is not to report them.
Not sure about that.
If they aren’t reported at all, the council can say that they can hardly be expected to fix things that they don’t know about.

MightyBadger

2,095 posts

51 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Forester1965 said:
Be careful spraying the road. Criminal damage and civil liability potential.

Arguably better to have more people damage their vehicles to create pressure on the authorities to act, too.
Not at all, if it saves people damaging their car it's a win imho - It's a risk I'm happy to take. Spray to highlight then go to council pothole reporting website and report them.



Yahonza

1,640 posts

31 months

Thursday 25th April
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Up here you'd run out of spray cans, if that were your strategy.
I do enjoy a bit of pothole slalom though.

MightyBadger

2,095 posts

51 months

Friday 26th April
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Yahonza said:
Up here you'd run out of spray cans, if that were your strategy.
I do enjoy a bit of pothole slalom though.
haha I'm just going to do my commute route first, we have a few 'trenches' appearing too.

Whats the best way to d.i.y them? Was considering using weetabix as everyone knows once set it's impossible to remove from dishes.

Digga

40,373 posts

284 months

Friday 3rd May
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UK asphalt sales at 10 year low...

...no st sherlock.

https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/a...

The Construction Index said:
Project delays and cancellations on the National Highways roads programme, and strained road funding for local authorities, have resulted in asphalt sales falling to levels last recorded more than a decade ago in 2013 (again, bar the covid blip).
Any political party not specifically targeting and prioritising this is public enemy #1.

sam.rog

769 posts

79 months

Friday 3rd May
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The roads in Manchester are so bad the old victorian cobbles are once again the predominant road surface.

TGCOTF-dewey

5,210 posts

56 months

Friday 3rd May
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Yahonza said:
Up here you'd run out of spray cans, if that were your strategy.
I do enjoy a bit of pothole slalom though.
Agreed... We just spray the usable bits of road now. Works out cheaper in paint.

ujio

316 posts

171 months

Friday 3rd May
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Sadly came across this article today.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13379137/...
Local to me and I've seen this gentleman a few times, very sad.

Digga

40,373 posts

284 months

Friday 3rd May
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ujio said:
Sadly came across this article today.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13379137/...
Local to me and I've seen this gentleman a few times, very sad.
A lot to be sad about there. Lamentable.

Loss of an experienced driver and a truly irreplacable car too.

Otispunkmeyer

12,618 posts

156 months

Saturday 4th May
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That exposed iron work is pretty much unforgivable looking at that picture.

Pit Pony

8,663 posts

122 months

Saturday 4th May
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Otispunkmeyer said:
That exposed iron work is pretty much unforgivable looking at that picture.
If I were the accident investigating police officer, my findings would state.

Car travelling at or below the speed limit in good conditions hit a broken manhole cover, and crashed due to damaged caused by the manhole cover.

Until someone high up in the council is charged with manslaughter due to gross criminal negligence, it will only get worse.


Olivera

7,177 posts

240 months

Saturday 4th May
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PaulD86 said:
The thing that kills roads is water. Simply speaking. But water is the enemy - same with buildings and cars.
Yet if you drive in Germany you will frequently notice roadside gullies that drain water away from the road. In the UK this is a completely non-existent concept.

Digga

40,373 posts

284 months

Sunday 5th May
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Pit Pony said:
If I were the accident investigating police officer, my findings would state.

Car travelling at or below the speed limit in good conditions hit a broken manhole cover, and crashed due to damaged caused by the manhole cover.

Until someone high up in the council is charged with manslaughter due to gross criminal negligence, it will only get worse.
I agree. In many places, it’s only local knowledge that prevents serious incidents or fatalities. It is brutal for road cyclists.

robinessex

11,074 posts

182 months

Sunday 5th May
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I hit this pothole and wrote my car off. It's located just as you go over a railway line bridge. The two sides of the bridge are RSJ.'s. If a motorcyclist had hit it and come off his motorcycle and headbutted the sides of the bridge, he would've probably been killed.




PaulD86

1,676 posts

127 months

Tuesday
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Olivera said:
PaulD86 said:
The thing that kills roads is water. Simply speaking. But water is the enemy - same with buildings and cars.
Yet if you drive in Germany you will frequently notice roadside gullies that drain water away from the road. In the UK this is a completely non-existent concept.
The city I live in has around 35,000 road gullies over around 610 miles of road, so I'm a little curious about your response - where do you think there aren't gullies in the UK? This isn't a phenomenon I've ever noticed.

Edited to add - whilst a lack of gullies isn't an issue I've noticed in the UK, if it is in some areas, a significant part of the problem may be directly linked to a Mrs Thatcher. In 1989 her government decided to privatise the water industry. The problem with this is that after they did, the water industry quickly realised it would be more profitable if there wasn't so much water in the drainage network and so they made it much more difficult for anyone to put water into it. Previously if a local authority wanted to add a road gully, they just added a road gully. No problem. After privatisation, they couldn’t just add gullies and some water authorities make it very, very difficult to add any new drainage. People don't think of the consequences of actions. Or don't care.

Edited by PaulD86 on Tuesday 7th May 07:23

Digga

40,373 posts

284 months

Tuesday
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PaulD86 said:
Olivera said:
PaulD86 said:
The thing that kills roads is water. Simply speaking. But water is the enemy - same with buildings and cars.
Yet if you drive in Germany you will frequently notice roadside gullies that drain water away from the road. In the UK this is a completely non-existent concept.
The city I live in has around 35,000 road gullies over around 610 miles of road, so I'm a little curious about your response - where do you think there aren't gullies in the UK? This isn't a phenomenon I've ever noticed.

Edited to add - whilst a lack of gullies isn't an issue I've noticed in the UK, if it is in some areas, a significant part of the problem may be directly linked to a Mrs Thatcher. In 1989 her government decided to privatise the water industry. The problem with this is that after they did, the water industry quickly realised it would be more profitable if there wasn't so much water in the drainage network and so they made it much more difficult for anyone to put water into it. Previously if a local authority wanted to add a road gully, they just added a road gully. No problem. After privatisation, they couldn’t just add gullies and some water authorities make it very, very difficult to add any new drainage. People don't think of the consequences of actions. Or don't care.

Edited by PaulD86 on Tuesday 7th May 07:23
The lack of maintenance on roadside gullioes is widespread and endemic throughout the UK. You cannot look at Germany and say, in terms o either traffic flow or weather, their road engineers and maintenance cres have it any easier than UK.