Front Brakes Upgrade Kit?

Front Brakes Upgrade Kit?

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PeteGriff

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1,262 posts

156 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Hi guys, my winter project is a front brake upgrade! I have been looking around and reading up for a while now. I was quite keen on the Hi-Spec setup, but there were a few negative comments by TVR guys. Over the last few days I have been in communication with Hans who advertises on PH with Griffith upgrade kits. Basically he has small batches of AP Racing 4 pot caplipers run off with the TVR logo engraved and various colours. I have specified a kit to fit my 15" Gotti wheels and with grooved discs and Mintex 1144 pads the cost was very good. Anyone here had any experience of them? Regards, Pete

C6NL

643 posts

259 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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PeteGriff said:
Hi guys, my winter project is a front brake upgrade! I have been looking around and reading up for a while now. I was quite keen on the Hi-Spec setup, but there were a few negative comments by TVR guys. Over the last few days I have been in communication with Hans who advertises on PH with Griffith upgrade kits. Basically he has small batches of AP Racing 4 pot caplipers run off with the TVR logo engraved and various colours. I have specified a kit to fit my 15" Gotti wheels and with grooved discs and Mintex 1144 pads the cost was very good. Anyone here had any experience of them? Regards, Pete
I had a kit from Hans (D) in my 4.3 Griffith, excellent braking performance, they survived multiple trackdays without a glitch.

Fred

Podie

46,630 posts

274 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Ford 887 / 888 calipers fit under 15 Estorils so may go under Gottis.

Hans used to sell kits, but have a look in the classifieds and ebay.

PeteGriff

Original Poster:

1,262 posts

156 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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PeteGriff said:
Hi guys, my winter project is a front brake upgrade! I have been looking around and reading up for a while now. I was quite keen on the Hi-Spec setup, but there were a few negative comments by TVR guys. Over the last few days I have been in communication with Hans who advertises on PH with Griffith upgrade kits. Basically he has small batches of AP Racing 4 pot caplipers run off with the TVR logo engraved and various colours. I have specified a kit to fit my 15" Gotti wheels and with grooved discs and Mintex 1144 pads the cost was very good. Anyone here had any experience of them? Regards, Pete
Cheers guys, have ordered a set from Hans for my 4.3 pre cat . Looking forward to getting them, will be a job to do on my list over the winter layup. Regards, Pete

seaside

110 posts

125 months

Sunday 26th October 2014
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PeteGriff said:
Cheers guys, have ordered a set from Hans for my 4.3 pre cat . Looking forward to getting them, will be a job to do on my list over the winter layup. Regards, Pete
Let us know how you get on Pete.
I think I will be looking for similar for my newly acquired 4.3 pre-cat to fit under the OZ Splits. driving

bananaface

314 posts

175 months

Monday 27th October 2014
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these are the hans brakes with 328 ford discs and hans hub conversion.
looks the nuts,there is foot pressure adjustment required also but that soon tunes in.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

230 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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PeteGriff said:
Hi guys, my winter project is a front brake upgrade! I have been looking around and reading up for a while now. I was quite keen on the Hi-Spec setup, but there were a few negative comments by TVR guys. Over the last few days I have been in communication with Hans who advertises on PH with Griffith upgrade kits. Basically he has small batches of AP Racing 4 pot caplipers run off with the TVR logo engraved and various colours. I have specified a kit to fit my 15" Gotti wheels and with grooved discs and Mintex 1144 pads the cost was very good. Anyone here had any experience of them? Regards, Pete
What negative comments ?

BarnFind

492 posts

145 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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PeteGriff said:
Hi guys, my winter project is a front brake upgrade! I have been looking around and reading up for a while now. I was quite keen on the Hi-Spec setup, but there were a few negative comments by TVR guys. Over the last few days I have been in communication with Hans who advertises on PH with Griffith upgrade kits. Basically he has small batches of AP Racing 4 pot caplipers run off with the TVR logo engraved and various colours. I have specified a kit to fit my 15" Gotti wheels and with grooved discs and Mintex 1144 pads the cost was very good. Anyone here had any experience of them? Regards, Pete
The kit is Hi-spec not AP surely ?

seaside

110 posts

125 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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BarnFind said:
The kit is Hi-spec not AP surely ?
Yes. Hans' current front kit is Hi-Spec.

mk1fan

10,507 posts

224 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I saw a Hi-Spec (on the front) shod Chim on Monday that had warped discs for a second time (over a short period). Is this the issue?

PeteGriff

Original Poster:

1,262 posts

156 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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BarnFind said:
The kit is Hi-spec not AP surely ?
My mistake (don't know where I got AP from), they are Hi-Spec. Regards, Pete

seaside

110 posts

125 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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mk1fan said:
I saw a Hi-Spec (on the front) shod Chim on Monday that had warped discs for a second time (over a short period). Is this the issue?
Anyone know if this is a particular issue or concern with Hi-spec calipers?
...or just something that can happen regardless of caliper?

simonwedge

743 posts

179 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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It's not a problem with the calipers. Warping of the disc is usually caused when the car is parked while the brakes are still too hot. The area of the disc that's between the brake pads cools more slowly than the rest of the disc which is exposed to the air - and warping occurs.

Having said that, the general quality of discs has improved over the years and with it, their propensity to warp has reduced. The first thing I'd suggest to 'cure' the problem is switching to another brand of discs - preferably a well known one.

yellowgriff

1,429 posts

181 months

Pete Mac

755 posts

136 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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yellowgriff said:
Well that's completely put me off paying a fortune to change out my brakes on my rebuild. I think I will stick with my old ones and completely renovate them. I will forgo the TVR logo - nice but not that nice. Pete

Oggs

8,813 posts

253 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Pete how about using 887/888 calipers?

PeteGriff

Original Poster:

1,262 posts

156 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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yellowgriff said:
Hi Yellow Griff, thank you for the link. It took a couple of reads to get the gist of it. I understand you had a bad experience back in 2009, which correct me if I am wrong was mainly down to the rear setup. I also understand that your units came from a well known Dartford source.

I am keeping the original rear setup, only changing fronts. I have had and seen many good reports for the Hans supplied front brake upgrades for the Griff, even if they are manufactured by the well known source alluded to above.

Was you horrendous experience identified as being the leaking of fluid due to poor manufacture or the fitting? Was it rears only that were the issue or front also? Your comments would be welcome, by PM if necessary. Regards, Pete

Pete Mac

755 posts

136 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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yellowgriff said:
Perhaps I over reacted although I would only change out the brakes for looks rather than performance as their performance is really not bad (or at least those on the Green Meanie aren't, although they have been enhanced and use Green Stuff pads).

I wouldn't mind knowing a bit more detail and again PM me if that is better. I think if I was to change out the fronts then I would have to change out the rears so they match. Pete

black and green

650 posts

190 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Podie said:
Ford 887 / 888 calipers fit under 15 Estorils so may go under Gottis.

Hans used to sell kits, but have a look in the classifieds and ebay.
Yep, 887/888 calipers fit under Gottis with no issues.

yellowgriff

1,429 posts

181 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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The facts are ,, Only the rears packed up leaking brake fluid everywere.
The reason for me taking them to court was, the rear brake fitted was completely again the law , both hand brake and the foot brake both worked of the same curcuit, so when the brake system packed up you couldnt use the hand brake to stop the car,
The service i got from the well know brake people was appalling to say the least,
I had to take them to court 3 times to get them to part with my money.
I took a Independant engineer costing over a £1000,00 just to show what a bunch of WA??ERS they are,
Any person who uses these people you have been warned, dont come back on here crying youve smashed your car or killed someone,

Goldie