What's that milky effect in the corner of my windscreen?

What's that milky effect in the corner of my windscreen?

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greengriff

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13 posts

281 months

Wednesday 21st February 2001
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Anyone know of a way to sort out a milky damp patch at the bottom corner of a Griff windscreen ?

macca

508 posts

280 months

Wednesday 21st February 2001
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I've got a milky patch on the bottom corner of my Chim. Wondered what it was. How do you know it's damp?

GasBlaster

27,427 posts

280 months

Wednesday 21st February 2001
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I've got white patch too. Suspect it is caused by the bonnet trailing edge catching against the windscreen seal when it is being raised. Lots of TVRs seem to have them.

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

283 months

Wednesday 21st February 2001
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The milky area on your windscreens is caused by the laminates seperating. A laminated winscreen as its name suggests is made up of 2 thin pieces of glass with a sandwich of plastic between them so that if the outer laminate is broken by a stone the windscreen does not shatter into a thousand small pieces (toughened windscreens ) so obscuring your vision.When laminated screens were invented back in the days when I was a lad they were fitted into a rubber seal which held the whole assembly together preventing the layers separating . As car manufacturers have got more greedy they have cut costs by bonding the windscreen into the body with adhesive which speeds up the assembly proces.TVR have taken this greed a step further by doing it badly, they bond the screen in poorly so that the inner laminate is secure but the outer layer is not. This allows water to ingress between the two laminates because that is what water does.When water freezes as we all know from basis "O" Level physics (or whatever it is called nowadays ) it expands it forces the two layers apart and hence the layer of plastic seperates from the two glass layers and becomes milky. The only cure is to fix it with a new screen and fit it properly.

thegamekeeper

2,282 posts

283 months

Wednesday 21st February 2001
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Question If you melt dry ice can you swim in the liquid without getting wet?????

tonym

4 posts

263 months

Saturday 6th July 2002
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when dry ice changes state it sublimes - straight from solid to gaseous carbon dioxide...i wouldn't be divin' off the high board.

2 Sheds

2,529 posts

285 months

Saturday 6th July 2002
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You'll also suffocate

simpo one

85,508 posts

266 months

Saturday 6th July 2002
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'when dry ice changes state it sublimes - straight from solid to gaseous carbon dioxide...'

Yes, funny that. You can have liquid oxygen, but not liquid CO2. Perhaps you have to increase the pressure?
But back to delamination - my old S3 had this problem but the previous owner (or his dealer) had covered it up cheaply and quite effectively by sticking a carefully shaped piece of glossy black plastic over the affected area. Anyone know where I can this stuff? - as my current Griff is starting to go too.

JMorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Saturday 6th July 2002
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Anyone know of a way to sort out a milky damp patch at the bottom corner of a Griff windscreen ?

Mine has extra sealant added to the exposed edges. Doesn't seem to be getting worse over the last year or so of ownership.

squirrelz

1,186 posts

272 months

Sunday 7th July 2002
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I thought it was the frame flexing which caused the delamination. How can water get between the layers?

simpo one

85,508 posts

266 months

Tuesday 9th July 2002
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'How can water get between the layers?'

Prise the black rubber edging strip up - you'll probably see a gap leading straight to the edge of the screen, where the join between the laminates are exposed. That's where the water gets in. I suppose that if they put sealant in properly when they fitted the screen in the first place, it wouldn't happen.

markaylott

37 posts

269 months

Tuesday 9th July 2002
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I did hear from someone that if you heat the screen corner with a hairdryer that the laminates expand and force the air out and then quickly re seal the edge.
Give it a try.

Glassman

22,543 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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thegamekeeper said:
As car manufacturers have got more greedy they have cut costs by bonding the windscreen into the body with adhesive which speeds up the assembly proces.TVR have taken this greed a step further by doing it badly...
How is a bonded windscreen more cost effective?

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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not dogging residue then? getmecoat

Mr MoJo

4,698 posts

217 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Holy thread resurection Batman !!

Glassman

22,543 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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I didn't spot the date yikes

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Mr MoJo said:
Holy thread resurection Batman !!
That must be a record hehe

griffith400

90 posts

232 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Hi GreenGriff,

As the gamekeeper said, it's the result of the laminated screen seperating and most will have seen this by now. If the cost of replacing the screen is a bit too much, there is a temporary 'tidy-up' you can do to your Pride & Joy:

Get yourself a roll of black electrical insulation tape and use it to create a black border around the edge of the screen. Because this tape stretches, you can follow the curvatures without wrinckles in the tape and you'll be surprised just how much better it will look with that White blemish covered.

It doesn't stand out or look naff so will do until you can replacethe screen!

markreilly

795 posts

173 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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I seem to remember that somebody came up with the bright idea of getting some black vinyl and covering the effected area with a neat strip across the bottom of the screen as in Chav windscreen in reverse

Edited by markreilly on Thursday 2nd September 08:51

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

261 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Glassman said:
thegamekeeper said:
As car manufacturers have got more greedy they have cut costs by bonding the windscreen into the body with adhesive which speeds up the assembly proces.TVR have taken this greed a step further by doing it badly...
How is a bonded windscreen more cost effective?
It happens to 944s, too, so I hardly think it can be attributed specifically to TVR.