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Prolex-UK
Original Poster
258 posts
77 months
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Heard on the news the other day that HMRC were targetting people on ebay etc operating businesses and not paying tax on their "earnings".
Got my letter through on saturday....looks like they've not bothered with any datacleansing before sending them out as my company is VAT registered,paying VAT,limited company and submitting accounts every year. I'm sure in my VAT registration certificate it says on-line selling of car parts as well........
Will be interesting how many people get caught by this new initiative
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MonkeyBusiness
2,394 posts
56 months
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Simpo Two
54,256 posts
134 months
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And yet didn't Tesco refuse to hand over Clubcard data when asked by the HMRC?
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Eric Mc
67,257 posts
134 months
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The problem is that HMRC self employment and compliance teams tend to go down the easy route and tackle those traders they are already aware of.
They don't have a simple mechanism for discovering non-self assessment registered individuals.
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BPD
417 posts
67 months
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Yeah I got one too this morning. It has been filed appropriately 
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Inkyfingers
1,004 posts
98 months
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Simpo Two said: And yet didn't Tesco refuse to hand over Clubcard data when asked by the HMRC? Why did HMRC want clubcard data?
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fridaypassion
2,313 posts
97 months
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This is good news. Should level the playing field if some people arent automatically 20% cheaper!
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs
16,314 posts
104 months
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Inkyfingers said: Simpo Two said: And yet didn't Tesco refuse to hand over Clubcard data when asked by the HMRC? Why did HMRC want clubcard data? If you buy stuff for work & pocket the vouchers may be a BIK.
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Simpo Two
54,256 posts
134 months
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Inkyfingers said: Why did HMRC want clubcard data? I believe the idea was to help identify tax dodgers/benefits cheats, ie comparing income declared with money actually spent. Or something like that.
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Eric Mc
67,257 posts
134 months
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I think the BIK angle is more likely.
If you receive clubcard points as part of your employment terms, it could be construed as a taxable benefit.
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Inkyfingers
1,004 posts
98 months
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Would have thought that HMRC had bigger fish to fry.
I don't do the shopping in our house so don't really know how the clubcard works...guess my secretary is probably pocketing the clubcard vouchers when I sent her out to get biscuits etc!
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pingu393
628 posts
74 months
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Inkyfingers said: Would have thought that HMRC had bigger fish to fry.
I don't do the shopping in our house so don't really know how the clubcard works...guess my secretary is probably pocketing the clubcard vouchers when I sent her out to get biscuits etc! Sad, but true. This is what they are wanting to catch. Vodafone is to big to land.
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DSLiverpool
3,300 posts
71 months
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We got the letter as well, looks like they have asked ambay for the top third sellers not the middle 40% which are more likely to moonlight.
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Eric Mc
67,257 posts
134 months
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Inkyfingers said: Would have thought that HMRC had bigger fish to fry.
I don't do the shopping in our house so don't really know how the clubcard works...guess my secretary is probably pocketing the clubcard vouchers when I sent her out to get biscuits etc! They have and they do. In my opinion, they have neglected the small trader sector for far too long. There may be bigger fish - but there are relatively few of them. Thre are lots of small fry out there trading under the radar. They occasionally make a big fuss of chasing the tiddlers to try and scare the others into compliance.
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New POD
1,977 posts
19 months
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I met a student who told me that in his 3 years at university, he'd made a clear £36K profit selling garden furniture on Ebay.
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fridaypassion
2,313 posts
97 months
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Eric Mc said: They have and they do.
In my opinion, they have neglected the small trader sector for far too long. There may be bigger fish - but there are relatively few of them.
Thre are lots of small fry out there trading under the radar. They occasionally make a big fuss of chasing the tiddlers to try and scare the others into compliance. As hinted at earlier in the thread though all this chasing tiddlers is pointless when Vodafone just get let off the hook. If HMRC get 10 or 20 big companies paying the tax they should be paying it would be far more efficient than chasing 500 single mums selling clothes on ebay. If HMRC are as well funded as other public bodies the chances are this mailout will probably only result in the people that volunteer to pay up actually paying anything. The ones who have the balls to wait it out will probably never the their collars felt. Way of the world I suppose!
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pingu393
628 posts
74 months
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Casting a net to catch lots of mackerel is easier than trying to line catch the giant tuna .
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Eric Mc
67,257 posts
134 months
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fridaypassion said: As hinted at earlier in the thread though all this chasing tiddlers is pointless when Vodafone just get let off the hook. If HMRC get 10 or 20 big companies paying the tax they should be paying it would be far more efficient than chasing 500 single mums selling clothes on ebay.
If HMRC are as well funded as other public bodies the chances are this mailout will probably only result in the people that volunteer to pay up actually paying anything. The ones who have the balls to wait it out will probably never the their collars felt. Way of the world I suppose! They win some - they lose some.
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New POD
1,977 posts
19 months
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Inkyfingers said: Why did HMRC want clubcard data? Don't think it's as big a scam (very common in USA) as having 2 prices for hotels, the higher one giving hotel points, and the lower one not, such that the employee builds up enough points to go on holiday. I always wondered why the woman who booked our travel at a previous employment was always off on long weekends, until I tried to register for my points, at the hotel, and found they'd been taken by her.
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Prolex-UK
Original Poster
258 posts
77 months
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If they got hold of paypal data it would be quite easy to pick out the traders and cross check to HMRC tax records
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