fan in front of nearside wheel

fan in front of nearside wheel

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stoker302

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62 posts

175 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Hello, just having bought a 1992 Griffith 4.3, found that the fans, horns and a fan in front of front nearside wheel are not working. Have sent for new otter switch and relays as reading problems people have on here. Since looking at the fan I am assuming it is the interior blower but seized solid, i would like to know do people repair it or replace it? The car has been standing some time and not getting used. Also would like some help with getting the speedo and rev counter repaired as they are not working either. They seem to go from right to left not like most i have seen. Help anyone? stoker302

chris212

133 posts

157 months

Tuesday 8th April 2014
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Have you checked all the fuses? Seems like a lot of things not working. I would check each one in turn - mine doesn't always correspond with the bibles table !

jesfirth

1,743 posts

242 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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If it's not the fuses and it's this fan I may mave a spare that I removed from mine for a few beer vouchers

stoker302

Original Poster:

62 posts

175 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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Hi thanks for the help, I have checked all fuses, all ok none blown. I have now had through the post from Racetech 3 relays and an otter switch which I have yet to put on. Would like the fan jesfirth. Hope to go to Burley house this weekend in it but its not looking good. Do the relays have only one way to be put in, assuming they are right in the first place which I very much doubt?

THREEFISHORANGE

574 posts

221 months

Wednesday 9th April 2014
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In my precat when I first got it, had the same problem. The heater blower was seized solid, but it didn't blow the fuse.
You will find that even if you free it off, or buy a good second hand one, its like an asthmatic gnat blowing on the screen to demist it. Just to add to the mix......
By the way. I got a replacement of a vauxhall nova.

stoker302

Original Poster:

62 posts

175 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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THREEFISHORANGE said:
In my precat when I first got it, had the same problem. The heater blower was seized solid, but it didn't blow the fuse.
You will find that even if you free it off, or buy a good second hand one, its like an asthmatic gnat blowing on the screen to demist it. Just to add to the mix......
By the way. I got a replacement of a vauxhall nova.
Hi, think I might try one off a nova if it blows better, will try it against an original just for the hell of it. Cheers

stoker302

Original Poster:

62 posts

175 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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Thought I would add this photo as I disturbed a red wire, the terminal broke off on a electric valve on the heating pipes, could not see where it broke off from. Think I`m digging a bigger hole here trying to find out why the fans won`t come on.

carsy

3,018 posts

165 months

Thursday 10th April 2014
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I wouldnt bother mate. Its as good as useless when its working anyway. Ripped all mine out. Fan and heater matrix. Didnt fancy the 22yr old heater matrix throwing scalding water over my sons legs.

Edited by carsy on Friday 11th April 09:11

stoker302

Original Poster:

62 posts

175 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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carsy said:
I wouldnt bother mate. Its as good as useless when its working anyway. Ripped all mine out. Fan and heater matrix. Didnt fancy the 22yr old heater matrix throwing scalding water over my sons legs.

Edited by carsy on Friday 11th April 09:11
I can understand that, I will wait till to decide whether to do that.

stoker302

Original Poster:

62 posts

175 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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chris212 said:
Have you checked all the fuses? Seems like a lot of things not working. I would check each one in turn - mine doesn't always correspond with the bibles table !
Hi Chris, got my fans working, a red and grey feed from the otter switch one went to the ignition the other went to the back of the fuse box to a relay. The wire had come out, one of those blue plastic jointers, crap things ,so i soldered bullit connectors on to the wires like on the old british bikes.

stoker302

Original Poster:

62 posts

175 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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jesfirth said:
If it's not the fuses and it's this fan I may mave a spare that I removed from mine for a few beer vouchers
Hi jesfirth, I have decide to fit a fan from a nova, so thanks for the offer of yours.

Barreti

6,680 posts

237 months

Friday 11th April 2014
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While I grant the heater in the pre-cat isn't exactly brilliant, it isn't as crap as some think and with some TLC you can make it usable.

The first thing to do is get to the fan in the void under the passenger headlight. Either sort out the corroded wiring or replace the fan if that doesn't fix it. But don't close up that headlight just yet.

While you are there have a look at the vinyl void 'seal'
This divides the void in half horizontally.
It allows the fan to pull air in from the bottom of the void and pump it into the top, thus pressurising the void.
The only way for the air to get out of the pressurised void is up into the car via the inner wing.
In theory.
In practice it seeps through the door hinge gaps and down the wing to the door lock inspection "hatch" behind the passenger seat. So you get about as much air as a gnat farting.

You can modify the air input and attach a feed pipe to the fan and feed it directly up over the wing. There a few people who have done this so it's worth searching for.
I know ANT went the whole hog and converted the matrix to the later 500 type which massively improves things.
I've also put a feed off the fan just to the inner wing so I could do away with the vinyl void seal. Again it's worth searching for this because I explained it all in details with photos.

Lastly, but by no means least is to ensure your valve in the passenger footwell is working and properly aligned to fully open and fully close.
The valve must also when fully open have nothing restricting the waterway.
Aligning is relatively simple, if a little crude and is done by means of a micro switch being activated by a lever on the motor. Its obvious when you look at it.
I also found the thing which shut off the waterway inside was too big and was therefore still constricting the waterway even when the valve was fully open. Sadly you'll only know if this is the case if you take the valve out, but it's easy to rectify with a drill.

I hope this helps. Dinner is calling now but if I can be help in the future please shout for assistance.

ETA: I forgot to say I have hundreds of photos of the fan and the valve/motor etc. If you need anything just drop me a line.



Edited by Barreti on Monday 14th April 16:40

stoker302

Original Poster:

62 posts

175 months

Monday 14th April 2014
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Thanks Barreti, just another thing to look at this winter.