Harriers are great - for landing with no nose wheel

Harriers are great - for landing with no nose wheel

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saaby93

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32,038 posts

179 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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How to turn a fault into a great piece of news
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28065288

yes

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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That's not a stool, it's half a stool - I can only see one arse cheek imprint in it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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I thought he could have been a little more delicate in that last 10-20 feet wink

saaby93

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32,038 posts

179 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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garyhun said:
I thought he could have been a little more delicate in that last 10-20 feet wink
Maybe you have to drop it when landing on a boat
Reminded me of the wrong lever incident at lowestoft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jThMA3Qy-TQ
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MarkK

667 posts

280 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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saaby93 said:
garyhun said:
I thought he could have been a little more delicate in that last 10-20 feet wink
Maybe you have to drop it when landing on a boat
Reminded me of the wrong lever incident at lowestoft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jThMA3Qy-TQ
frown
That's right, it's to make sure the aircraft continues to descend once it gets into ground effect. Otherwise it will go back into a hover close to the deck until the pilot pulls more power off.

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Having talked to a good friend who is a retired 'Bona Mate' (Harrier Pilot), it's not about Ground Effect per sé, but avoidance of hot gas ingestion.

Simpo Two

85,504 posts

266 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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To all intents and purposes it seems he did a normal landing - but with a stool instead of a nosewheel. I don't recall the Falklands Harriers coming down that plumb - but no doubt the systems are rather better now!

MarkK

667 posts

280 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Having talked to a good friend who is a retired 'Bona Mate' (Harrier Pilot), it's not about Ground Effect per sé, but avoidance of hot gas ingestion.
Thanks for taking the time to improve my knowledge!

4lf4-155

700 posts

244 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Does anyone know the history of this incident?

http://youtu.be/BD4oiBSXGDM

Pretty decent shot by the pilot but how did he end up so list he needed to land in a cargo ship?.

saaby93

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32,038 posts

179 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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4lf4-155 said:
Does anyone know the history of this incident?

http://youtu.be/BD4oiBSXGDM

Pretty decent shot by the pilot but how did he end up so lost he needed to land in a cargo ship?.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1553244/Why-lost-jet-pilot-took-ride-on-container-ship.html

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

185 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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That was Ian 'Soapy' Watson.

He was one of my QFI's (Qualified Flying Instructor) when I went through Pilot Training.

As he told me:

He got airborne on an EMCON SILENT sortie (ie Mother - the Carrier- would not be broadcasting, which included not broadcasting the TACAN (navigation beacon).

Sometime after getting airborne his IN (Inertial Navigation) platform 'Ran Away' ie it started to be extremely erroneous.

At recovery fuel time 'Soapy' could not find 'Mother' on RADAR, despite what his Nav Kit was telling him. In fact he was some 300 mile from 'Mother' eek

Having decided to ditch, he found a contact on his RADAR - a trawler. So he landed on it.


He was lambasted by the Navy for his exploit.


His telling of the story was quite awesome - having landed on, he found the entire crew drunk, so he acted as 'Officer of the Watch' until they sobered up!

4lf4-155

700 posts

244 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Cheers for the responses.

Quality result all round considering what could have happened!


markmullen

15,877 posts

235 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
His telling of the story was quite awesome - having landed on, he found the entire crew drunk, so he acted as 'Officer of the Watch' until they sobered up!
rofl Awesome stuff.

Yertis

18,060 posts

267 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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I was chatting with an ex test pilot a couple of days ago who told me - surprisingly, after what I've read on here – that he didn't find the Harrier a particularly tricky aircraft to fly. But having seen the other types he's flown that would be a relative assessment.

jjones

4,426 posts

194 months

Monday 30th June 2014
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surely giving the guy a much wider bench to park the nose on would have made it many multiples easier!