Friday 22nd June 2001

False Plate Fallout

Is clamping down on speeders having a detrimental effect on catching real criminals?


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sarahh

283 months

Friday 22nd June 2001
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I was advised to mix the digits of my reg number up in an accidental fashion and then to change them accidentally every six months, just in case you build up a few claims. Even better leave the original one on at the front to prove it is a genuine mistake!! Ben

AndrewD

7,544 posts

285 months

Friday 22nd June 2001
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And you've started with your Gassing Name - you've turned "ben" into "sarahh" - you're nicked

bosshog

1,587 posts

277 months

Friday 22nd June 2001
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Actually, I bet the fine for have a wrong number plate would be cheaper than the fine(s) in the long run. Its'nt it the same for insurence - liek the victor in the news?

Nightmare

5,194 posts

285 months

Friday 22nd June 2001
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ws wondering this myself when I found out that the garage I picked my elise up from had put the wrong plates on...the back was right (228) but the front was wrong (223)...guses it was an easy mistake to make, but I actually didnt spot it for a couple of weeks...cos I dont pay any attention to my own number!.....that could have been very unfortunate if I'd binned it before finding out....

steve-p

1,448 posts

283 months

Friday 22nd June 2001
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I was advised to mix the digits of my reg number up in an accidental fashion and then to change them accidentally every six months, just in case you build up a few claims.
That doesn't help very much when your digits are all the same (666) and the letters are significant (TVR)!

Marshy

2,748 posts

285 months

Friday 22nd June 2001
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I once bought a car that actually accidentally did have the wrong plate on it. The plate ended in HHK and the reg doc was HKK or something like that. The funny thing is, going on the fact that the dealer name on the plate was different from the dealer I bought it from, it must have been like that for some time. I didn't realise until I rejected the car (7000 miles and one dent later) for having had a big shunt that they neglected to tell me about. Kinda missed an opportunity with that one though :-D

tuscanboy

181 posts

285 months

Saturday 23rd June 2001
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I see there will be a feature on Top Gear next week regarding an issue concerning Gatsos - wonder if it's connected. Maybe we've finally found a loophole which will stop the proliferation of cameras and get the police off their fat arses catching real criminals.

john robson

370 posts

278 months

Monday 25th June 2001
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Just to put a downer on it Fraud use of a reg mark is actually a criminal conviction not points on yer licence. It gets you a CRO number (what 'real' criminals get) and it certainly dosn't look good on your C.V. I have done a few for it in the past and it isn't that hard to prove, so if you are contemplating it you better have a better story than the ones published so far.

Marshy

2,748 posts

285 months

Monday 25th June 2001
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Excuse me? The car was supplied to me with the wrong plate on it by a franchised BMW dealer. But the plate was so similar to the reg doc that it was very easy to miss the fact that it was incorrect. Are you seriously implying that I could have been done for that? Edited by Marshy on Monday 25th June 10:29

bosshog

1,587 posts

277 months

Monday 25th June 2001
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Not forgetting the new fundamental - you are a motorist therefore guilty until proven innocent.
LOL. How true.

steve-p

1,448 posts

283 months

Monday 25th June 2001
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Just to put a downer on it Fraud use of a reg mark is actually a criminal conviction not points on yer licence. It gets you a CRO number (what 'real' criminals get) and it certainly dosn't look good on your C.V.
Should be safe enough then, as in my own experience of having cars broken into or stolen, and being burgled, the police do bugger all about real crime.

Midnight Blue

96 posts

279 months

Monday 25th June 2001
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Whoever you are 'Ron Jobson', I think you're being unfair to the real John Robson. I think John is a very useful and informative participant in this section of Pistonheads. Without a balanced view, this could degenerate into aggrieved motorists just letting off steam. It takes a good deal of bottle to make youself known as the 'old bill' in a potentially unfriendly forum and try to put the other side of the debate. I'm sure advice from John has helped people, and will continue to do so. I always read contributions from John with interest, if I agree with them or not. Let's keep it civilized! Time to go out for a burn I think! Matt (who doesn't speed, honset officer!)

AndrewD

7,544 posts

285 months

Monday 25th June 2001
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Don't disagree with you Matt, John is very welcome here and has probably saved a few people from sleepless nights. However, I am sure he is not oblivious to the growing feeling that speeding appears to be the crime of the moment, and, totally coincidentally, it makes money for the authorities.

mph

2,339 posts

283 months

Monday 25th June 2001
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Whoever you are 'Ron Jobson', I think you're being unfair to the real John Robson. Without a balanced view, this could degenerate into aggrieved motorists just letting off steam.
What's wrong with aggreived motorists letting off steam. Where else can we do it ? There's nothing balanced about the governments policy re speeding and motorists in general. John may be very reasonable and a nice chap, but he is part of the machinery that enforces very unpopular laws. Are you suggesting that John Robson can post but Ron Jobson should lay off ?Doesn't seem very balanced to me.

graham

16,368 posts

285 months

Monday 25th June 2001
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[quoteAre you suggesting that John Robson can post but Ron Jobson should lay off No but its a bit unfair taking the Piss out of John. John contributes a lot to the gassing station and is often the voice of reason to a lot of debates. If we frighten him off we will all be poorer without his contributions, and possibly in jail!!!!!!!! The law is written by politicians and we all know what tossers they are, the Police only do what they are told, although ok like every occupation they employ a few tossers aswell. From What has been Written i think we could do with a few more JR's in the police force.. (unless he nicks me for 150mph past a school) G(pissed with car parked and keys hidden)

PetrolTed

34,429 posts

304 months

Monday 25th June 2001
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Agreed. John Robson is just implementing the law, please don't discourage him from posting here as the views from the other side of the fence are interesting and enjoyed by many of the readers.

john robson

370 posts

278 months

Tuesday 26th June 2001
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Thanks for the support. 'The police' in general do get a slating in the press, on wew sites etc but we are all individuals, some good some ??? but that is the same with any job. Just a point though when one of us does stick our necks out and speak up (a certain Chief Constable plus an letter from a retired traffic cop daily mail last week) backing up what most of you are saying about enforcing speed limits on a 0 tolerance basis they get flooded with calls to resign and surrender their licences. Can we ever win????. Oh well I suppose if life were that simple and I didn't get a bit of grief and aggro now and then it would be boring.

Nightmare

5,194 posts

285 months

Tuesday 26th June 2001
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sorry...you cant win! and there was me guessing that Ron was John in 'I can say what I really think without getting in trouble' mode....

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Tuesday 26th June 2001
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I do hope that both John Robson and "Ron Jobson" will continue to post. Its informative/a laugh/thought provoking in equal measure. The "good guys" have my support. Stupid regulations don't...but there's always an argument as to what is "stupid" and what isn't....and that's healthy/fun.

PetrolTed

34,429 posts

304 months

Tuesday 26th June 2001
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I won't deny Ron Jobson did make me chuckle...