Horsforth A65 - A6120 roundabout improvements.
Discussion
I've just been reading about the proposed improvements to Horsforth roundabout.
Download the PDF doc here
Looking at it, I'm struggling to see how it is going to improve the flow of traffic, however I am no expert on these things.
It would be interesting to hear the views of other who use this roundabout regularly (I don't use it much any more).
Oh, and £2.8M
Download the PDF doc here
Looking at it, I'm struggling to see how it is going to improve the flow of traffic, however I am no expert on these things.
It would be interesting to hear the views of other who use this roundabout regularly (I don't use it much any more).
Oh, and £2.8M
All that jazz said:
£2.7m wasted before it's even begun. The redesign as per the plan won't fix anything as the problem is the lack of road capacity for the section down to Rodley rbt. Make the ring road down to Rodley 2 lanes and the problem will be sorted without any need for traffic lights. The only thing the traffic lights will serve to do is lengthen the already long queues and majorly piss people off.
I completely agree with you.I used to travel from Guiseley to Elland Road back in the late 90's, and even then the stretch of road down to Rodley was a nightmare on a morning.
The planned changes suggest that the "designer" has no idea what it's like there at peak hours.
So they are adding a filter lane left on to the A65 heading toward Rawdon - which IMHO is not needed.
It looks as though traffic going straight across (and right) from Horsforth heading toward Rawdon will be restricted to a single lane.
And then we have the addition of multiple 'toucan' crossings.
This surely is going to make congestion worse than ever, and push queuing traffic back into Horsforth.
ETA:
I think it's also interesting to note;
Leeds City Council said:
The scheme proposals will also accommodate the new housing development on the
site of the former Clariant works.
Inject an additional £1,450,000 into the city development capital programme
for this scheme (£1,320,000 is already included in the capital programme).
The £1,450,000 is funded from a private developer contribution receipt.
site of the former Clariant works.
Inject an additional £1,450,000 into the city development capital programme
for this scheme (£1,320,000 is already included in the capital programme).
The £1,450,000 is funded from a private developer contribution receipt.
Edited by TonyRPH on Tuesday 15th July 19:23
richatnort said:
Ha no thanks I'll stick to 4 wheels and a warm cabin thanks. Just wondering on traffic really.
I certainly wouldn't commute from Horsforth / Rodley to Morley.Why not just live over that side? There's plenty of fairly decent places to choose from with a better commute.
More traffic lights by the look of it.
Leeds City Council said:
Rodley roundabout signalisation scheme
Update 30 May 2014
A revised plan has been placed in the documents section,
please see Scheme-Plan-May2014.pdf
Background
Leeds City Council has obtained ‘Pinch Point’ funding from the Department for Transport in order to improve Rodley Roundabout at the junction of A657 Rodley Lane and A6120 Ring Road Farsley. The junction currently suffers from significant congestion and is part of a length for concern in terms of road safety.
Proposals
The proposals are intended to reduce traffic congestion at this junction and improve accessibility.
The works include:
Replacement of the existing roundabout arrangement with a signalised gyratory
Provision of pedestrian and cycling facilities
Provision of a bus lay-by on the Ring Road towards Horsforth and minor relocation of other bus stops in the area of the roundabout
Street lighting improvements
It is anticipated that construction work will begin this summer and last for around 10 months. Some service diversionary works may commence in advance of the main highway works.
Update 30 May 2014
A revised plan has been placed in the documents section,
please see Scheme-Plan-May2014.pdf
Background
Leeds City Council has obtained ‘Pinch Point’ funding from the Department for Transport in order to improve Rodley Roundabout at the junction of A657 Rodley Lane and A6120 Ring Road Farsley. The junction currently suffers from significant congestion and is part of a length for concern in terms of road safety.
Proposals
The proposals are intended to reduce traffic congestion at this junction and improve accessibility.
The works include:
Replacement of the existing roundabout arrangement with a signalised gyratory
Provision of pedestrian and cycling facilities
Provision of a bus lay-by on the Ring Road towards Horsforth and minor relocation of other bus stops in the area of the roundabout
Street lighting improvements
It is anticipated that construction work will begin this summer and last for around 10 months. Some service diversionary works may commence in advance of the main highway works.
Guiseley said:
The Rodley changes look better imo - two lanes down from Pudsey, both of which can be used to go straight across towards Horsforth - providing we can educate drivers about zip filing rather than tooting horns and merging early. (I do hope they put helpful signs up!)
http://www.leeds.gov.uk/docs/Rodley-Scheme-Plan-Ma...
It does look better - but sadly there are still the two lanes in to one to contend with, which are always going to cause congestion, no matter what is done there.http://www.leeds.gov.uk/docs/Rodley-Scheme-Plan-Ma...
Edited by Guiseley on Wednesday 16th July 12:45
If only they would widen the entire stretch between Pudsey roundabout and Horsforth roundabout, there is enough space to do this (apart from the bridges).
But all they're doing is building complex junctions with crossings and lights (at huge expense).
ETA: Zip filing / merging? It'll never happen in an orderley fashion in the UK!!!
All that jazz said:
There are speed humps on the A65? Really? It's already littered with GATSOs on that stretch.
I'm fairly certain Trickie Dickie isn't referring to the A65. At least, there were no speed bumps on it the last time I went More like Brownberrie Lane or nearby I think?
Edited by TonyRPH on Monday 26th January 12:27
Leeds City Council have "gone all Bradford" with their 20 limits and speed bumps just lately.
It began (AFAIK) in Headingley, when 20 limits began sprouting up all over the place there.
Ironically, just up the road from me is a main thoroughfare which has speed bumps and chicanes - and what happens?
People just speed up to get through the chicanes (which ironically are used as safe haven crossings by some pedestrians, and other people simply take chances to race through in the face of oncoming traffic.
And of course, at peak times these chicanes just cause large queues.
So all they succeeded in doing was to actually make the road more dangerous.
Utterly pointless.
It began (AFAIK) in Headingley, when 20 limits began sprouting up all over the place there.
Ironically, just up the road from me is a main thoroughfare which has speed bumps and chicanes - and what happens?
People just speed up to get through the chicanes (which ironically are used as safe haven crossings by some pedestrians, and other people simply take chances to race through in the face of oncoming traffic.
And of course, at peak times these chicanes just cause large queues.
So all they succeeded in doing was to actually make the road more dangerous.
Utterly pointless.
MonkeyBusiness said:
Trickie Dickie said:
BACK ON TOPIC
My friend who lives by the roundabout says they have now passed
to put houses all the way from the Horsforth roundabout to Rawdon Crematorium
(on what was greenbelt again I think)
More congestion!!
Trickie
No way! Who (at the Council) thinks that would be a good idea? Its already backed up towards Rawdon and even worse on New Road Side.My friend who lives by the roundabout says they have now passed
to put houses all the way from the Horsforth roundabout to Rawdon Crematorium
(on what was greenbelt again I think)
More congestion!!
Trickie
This is greenbelt land, and is apparently on the former Clariant Works (my o/h thinks it may also have been known as 'Sandoz'?).
Link to map
I found some further info here and here.
It looks as though they were wanting to build some 550 homes, but the plans have been rejected (and since revised and accepted I presume) given that these reports are quite old (2011).
There are some interesting comments regarding (the closed) Calverley Railway station and the (work in progress) station at Apperley Bridge.
It's easy to see why 550 homes were rejected though!!!
Planning permission for upto 400 residential dwellings was granted for the site on appeal in April 2012
Link to detailed plan (pdf)
Link to Horsforth Community Forum discussion
No small wonder the developers are contributing to the junction improvements!
ETA: Added additional links.
It looks as though they were wanting to build some 550 homes, but the plans have been rejected (and since revised and accepted I presume) given that these reports are quite old (2011).
There are some interesting comments regarding (the closed) Calverley Railway station and the (work in progress) station at Apperley Bridge.
It's easy to see why 550 homes were rejected though!!!
Planning permission for upto 400 residential dwellings was granted for the site on appeal in April 2012
Link to detailed plan (pdf)
Link to Horsforth Community Forum discussion
No small wonder the developers are contributing to the junction improvements!
ETA: Added additional links.
Edited by TonyRPH on Friday 30th January 20:39
MonkeyBusiness said:
Also what is going on at the Old Ball Roundabout? They are extending/putting another crossing at the start of Brownberrie Lane I think.
Reading this document suggests that a 'humped zebra crossing' is to be installed at the Old Ball Roundabout.Why we have to have zebra crossings on the entrance / exit of a roundabout escapes me - it strikes me as dangerous given the few near misses I have seen in recent years.
Also - this document covers the speeds bumps and speed reduction on Brownberrie Lane.
It seems as though they are determined to build more housing close to the city centre, rather than further afield.
Could this be an effort to force the use of public transport?
A new development is under way just up the road from me in Queensway, Guiseley.
I note that on some of the planning documents, residents of this new development are to be given discounts on bus & rail services for 'X' years (I don't remember how long).
Somehow I still don't think this is going to get people out of their cars.
Could this be an effort to force the use of public transport?
A new development is under way just up the road from me in Queensway, Guiseley.
I note that on some of the planning documents, residents of this new development are to be given discounts on bus & rail services for 'X' years (I don't remember how long).
Somehow I still don't think this is going to get people out of their cars.
They're artificially creating queues to see how the road will cope when the new LBA link road is built haha.
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