Modern day alchemy has come true
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Seems like either a big let down is about to be played out, or the next step has finally been made.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/191754-cold-fus...
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/191754-cold-fus...
http://energycatalyzer3.com/news/toyota-and-mitsub...
I think cold fusion is a misnomer, been reading through a lot of stuff and it seems quite a lot of people are invested in this, it's just been going off behind the scenes, it looks like the guy is a con-man or is currently producing the proof for the world, too many big companies with a lot of money and surely a lot of sense have bought into this now.
Maybe, well, hopefully this is real and in the next decade or two we will see the next step.
Remember electricity itself was a curiosity used to power a few lights and motors, the main players were piped steam or hydraulic power. Things changed not too long ago, this could hopefully be that time again.
edit: "E-Cat uses cold fusion — low-energy nuclear reactions, LENR — to fuse nickel and hydrogen atoms into copper, releasing oodles of energy."
From the test results shown, it produces more heat energy than electricity put in, i think the COP is 3.6 or something.
I think cold fusion is a misnomer, been reading through a lot of stuff and it seems quite a lot of people are invested in this, it's just been going off behind the scenes, it looks like the guy is a con-man or is currently producing the proof for the world, too many big companies with a lot of money and surely a lot of sense have bought into this now.
Maybe, well, hopefully this is real and in the next decade or two we will see the next step.
Remember electricity itself was a curiosity used to power a few lights and motors, the main players were piped steam or hydraulic power. Things changed not too long ago, this could hopefully be that time again.
edit: "E-Cat uses cold fusion — low-energy nuclear reactions, LENR — to fuse nickel and hydrogen atoms into copper, releasing oodles of energy."
From the test results shown, it produces more heat energy than electricity put in, i think the COP is 3.6 or something.
Edited by MrBrightSi on Thursday 9th October 22:00
http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=News&...
I know there are other reason oil has been coming down per barrel. It has had a sharp dip recently as well as big firms selling their stake.
It can't all be down to shale gas and libya supposedly stabilising production.
I know there are other reason oil has been coming down per barrel. It has had a sharp dip recently as well as big firms selling their stake.
It can't all be down to shale gas and libya supposedly stabilising production.
It is still fusion. It creates a nickel isotope that can only be made through nuclear reactions.
The temperature it can do this at is what's causing the controversy.
I hope we're seeing the dawn of something new . imagine how better off people would be with decentralised power generation with no more house of saud supporting.
The temperature it can do this at is what's causing the controversy.
I hope we're seeing the dawn of something new . imagine how better off people would be with decentralised power generation with no more house of saud supporting.
The ad hominem attacks aren't helping anyone.
The rossi story is complex by the looks of it
Problem is if he's a nut case so is the head of industrial heat. 2 billion dollars worth of crazy.
All he has done has let the cat out of the bag. Bigger companies are serctetivly doing their own versions. There's a company in the us who use a similar setup that produces helium and heat.
With cold fusion it appears getting your intellectual property protected is difficult I can appreciate wanting to make some money out of it before everyone has legally copied yours.
The rossi story is complex by the looks of it
Problem is if he's a nut case so is the head of industrial heat. 2 billion dollars worth of crazy.
All he has done has let the cat out of the bag. Bigger companies are serctetivly doing their own versions. There's a company in the us who use a similar setup that produces helium and heat.
With cold fusion it appears getting your intellectual property protected is difficult I can appreciate wanting to make some money out of it before everyone has legally copied yours.
I'd say im optimistic, i don't believe it fully im not a scientist.
However, shouldn't solutions like this, be more thought of and given a bit more time.
Yes, it doesn't emit gamma rays, but science is an ever evolving thing right?
Surely we're treating it like religion when experiments do X but X can't be done because Y. Surely the thought should be how a man got to X, if so many people have put themselves up for big losses in this, only for it to be a scam. It seems a little too much to lose for some scam.
Edit: Independent scienctists have said that the refuse from the 32 day experiment could only be produced by a nuclear process. Maybe we haven't worked with low energy fusion for long enough? Haven't countries spent billions on hot fusion and the like, maybe it's just a blank in the picture, not that anyone is wrong.
However, shouldn't solutions like this, be more thought of and given a bit more time.
Yes, it doesn't emit gamma rays, but science is an ever evolving thing right?
Surely we're treating it like religion when experiments do X but X can't be done because Y. Surely the thought should be how a man got to X, if so many people have put themselves up for big losses in this, only for it to be a scam. It seems a little too much to lose for some scam.
Edit: Independent scienctists have said that the refuse from the 32 day experiment could only be produced by a nuclear process. Maybe we haven't worked with low energy fusion for long enough? Haven't countries spent billions on hot fusion and the like, maybe it's just a blank in the picture, not that anyone is wrong.
Edited by MrBrightSi on Friday 10th October 16:45
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