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So who has all been confirmed for next year's series
FS-3 - O Show & Max Cook
OMG Lami - Ryde & Vickers
FHO - Brookes & Hickman
ROKit BMW - Haslam i am assuming as it is his team
Mar-Train - Danny Kent
Honda - Harrison, Andy Irwin and Bridewell
DAO Kawasaki - Buchan & Elliott
Motorapido - Iddon
GR Motorsport - Storm Stacey
PMB - Glenn Irwin
Hawk Racing - Charlie Nesbitt and Lee Jackson

Anyone else already confirmed?




Lots of still empty seats and riders with no confirmed rides for next year

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slopes

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If PBM decide not to continue, that is going to throw a spanner in the works BIG time. For me own personal thoughts, maybe they won't continue as they are now but maybe continue as either a whole new entity or split into two seperate teams.
The way things are going in BSB, i think the days of big teams are almost over, McAms are folding at the end of the year, so for what i would class as a big team that only leaves FS-3, Honda, OMG and PBM. TAS have been a one rider team this season and everyone else is running a much much smaller budget these days for obvious reasons and i think the likes of Moto Rapido, Kent Lovell, Mar Train etc will be the way forward for the future

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Friday 22nd September 2023
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Rob 131 Sport said:
slopes said:
So who has all been confirmed for next year's series
FS-3 - O Show & Max Cook
OMG Lami - Ryde & Vickers
FHO - didn't i read that Brookes and Hicky have signed for 2024?
ROKit BMW - Haslam i am assuming as it is his team

Anyone else already confirmed?

Rumoured
Honda - Harrison & Jackson
DAO Kawasaki - Buchan & Elliott
Mar Train Yamaha - Kent/Jackson

Lots of still empty seats and riders with no confirmed rides for next year

Edited by slopes on Thursday 21st September 11:37
If the rumour is correct that Lee Jackson is going to Honda it would be great to see him do the TT.
I totally understood Glen Irwin’s decision to not participate again in the TT and it was great to see him for 1 year. I was also pleased that Josh Brookes came back this year after 5 years.

However I think the TT needs more too BSB riders.
I don't see many BSB riders doing the TT to be honest and definitely not Lee jackson but it could be entertaining if he and Dean are in the same team next year.
I think the way BSB is heading, smaller one rider teams are going to be the norm rather than the exception and with the new Pathway rules coming into force for 2024, i think there will be a lot more smaller teams coming through.

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Monday 25th September 2023
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So it looks like IWR are stepping up to BSB with a Pathway spec Fireblade ridden by Alex Olson - certainly for the last two rounds but i expect them to be on the grid next year.
Same goes for Marvel/HCL with Franco Bourne
I think this is going to be the future of BSB, single rider teams on the less powerful bikes leaving the likes of FHO, Honda UK and PBM IF they continue as the big teams.

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Wednesday 27th September 2023
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graeme4130 said:
The problem with these teams going into the pathway series, is they’re only allowed tkmo donit for a single season and then the rider needs to go full superbike
Stk1000 - pathway isn’t a massive budget jump proportionally , but that next step to running a superbike is massive
Maybe true but it will at least give teams a chance to get a foot in the door and see if they want to commit to full superbike but also riders will have a chance to see if they have the desire to try and jump to superbike. Lets be honest, many a rider has tried to jump to superbikes with not much success, most obvious one is Jack Kennedy although he is bucking that trend this year on the R1 but Billy McConnell is another, excellent on a stocker but not quite so good on a full superbike and the pathway regs give riders wanting to find out a chance to do just that without having to find the budget for a full superbike or as is so often mentioned in commentary, chucking a very expensive full superbike down the road.

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Wednesday 27th September 2023
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flatlandsman said:
It has to be said that some riders simply cannot adjust fully to a superbike, Kennedy is not alone, kenan couldn't, Muggeridge, Broc Parkes, did Jim Moodie ever go aswell an a bike as a 600? John Crawfiord? It is not easy.

A few adjusted who you thought might not like Easton, and the best ones can ride both for sure, but that adjustment is not always easy I think
Exactly and it doesn't mean they are bad riders, i still maintain that Kennedy is one of the best riders of a 600 anywhere right now.

Kent has been announced as riding for Mar Train Yamaha for 2024, good ride for Danny is that.

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Wednesday 11th October 2023
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rigga said:
Buchan confirmed at DAO

Also Billy McConnal and Jamie van Sikkelerus moving up to superbikes with C&L Fairburn Jackson racing team, in the new pathway spec .

And having listened to Jordan Bird on chasing the racing, it's pretty clear PBM will continue into 24 and beyond.

Edited by rigga on Wednesday 11th October 11:01
Good news about Fairbun/Jackson racing moving up and also if PBM continue into next year and beyond.
Wonder what will happen to Brayden Elliott now Buchan is confirmed, be a bit of a kick in the nuts if he gets booted to the kerb after staying with them on an uncompetitive bike in Superstock and then filling the vacant seat after Harrison called it time on his tenure there.

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Wednesday 11th October 2023
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airsafari87 said:
slopes said:
if PBM continue into next year and beyond.
I haven’t listened to Chasin the Racing for a year now, but I did listen to the latest podcast with Jordan Bird and it’s definitely worth a listen, I was very impressed by her.

But yes, going from what she said in there PBM definitely has a future next year and beyond.
Good, would love to see them get a 10th title for her dad to cement his legacy

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Wednesday 11th October 2023
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IN Competition stepping up to BSB with a Pathway spec RSV4 Aprillia for Fraser Rogers

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DarthtaterM16 said:
Going to be nobody left in superstock at this rate hehe
Looks like this is the future of BSB though and I’m all for it to be honest.
As someone mentioned above, they can only run this spec for one year and then have to step up to full superbike spec if they want to stay in BSB of course. I guess if it proves too expensive they could always step down to Superstock again but i doubt they would then get the Pathway option a second time but who knows. It's certainly going to make the series interesting next year, battles all over the place and if we get some nasty weather, who knows, maybe a Pathway bike could mix it up with the full on Superbikes.
Didn't i read somewhere that at last years TT Hicky ran a Superstock engine in his Superbike chassis as it meant he could go all but flat out when he needed to whereas the full on Superbike he couldn't?

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Friday 13th October 2023
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Macadam Racing have partnered with Triumph for 2024 BSS championship, bike to be based around the Street Triple 765 - no doubt as in WSSP - but no announcement on riders just yet.
Good to have another manufacturer coming into the series

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FS-3 has gone from Cheshire Mouldings FS-3 to Completely Motorcycles FS-3 with a new title sponsor

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I'm fairly sure i either read somewhete or heard somewhere - possibly from Birdy himself - that it isn't family money that runs PBM. Maybe in the beginning it might have been but it has to stand on it's own two feet, as a seperate entity not part of the family business.

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I'm fairly sure i either read somewhete or heard somewhere - possibly from Birdy himself - that it isn't family money that runs PBM. Maybe in the beginning it might have been but it has to stand on it's own two feet, as a seperate entity not part of the family business.

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Wednesday 18th October 2023
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FredericRobinson said:
slopes said:
I'm fairly sure i either read somewhete or heard somewhere - possibly from Birdy himself - that it isn't family money that runs PBM. Maybe in the beginning it might have been but it has to stand on it's own two feet, as a seperate entity not part of the family business.
That’s not what Jordan Bird said on Chasin the Racin, she said it couldn’t run without the sponsors, but also that her Grandfather provides funding
Well if it was Paul Bird that i heard say it, maybe he was just having a sly joke at peoples expense but if that is what was said, then i guess it must be the case.

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Thursday 19th October 2023
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It's a bit of a kick in the nuts though, wins the tilte - just - and knows he is already out of a job at the team.
Wonder who they will get to partner Glenn if that is the case? Lee Jackson? Jack Kennedy?

That's all allwoing for Tommy going to Honda if the rumour is true but you have to think that Honda will definitely be up to the front of the field next year, two years as also runs won't sit well.

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Friday 20th October 2023
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egor110 said:
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Putting something like £2,000,000 a year into the race team must sting a bit though

The rumour mill in the paddock currently is saying that Tommy has signed for Honda next year
That'll be a proper west country team with him and danny kent .
Danny Kent confirmed at Mar Train Yamaha

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Friday 20th October 2023
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Zarco said:
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For what reason out of interest?
From the interview with Jordan Bird.

It seemed that her and the team were very much for Glen and what the successes they could have in the future.

Most mentions of Tommy seemed to be afterthoughts.

This isn’t a criticism of the team or Tommy by the way, just the gut feeling I got from listening to the interview with her.
That's interesting. I didn't get that feel from the Chasing the Racing interview (not saying you are wrong). She did come across very well and I was impressed she had been properly involved in the team previously, which I had no idea about.

Whilst watching the final round I did find it interesting she was stood in Glenn's side of the garage whenever they cut to it in the races. Told myself I was reading too much into it; she has to stand somewhere after all!

Tommy does have a reputation for being difficult to manage at times. You can see how many teams he's ridden for he hops about a bit (three in one season once IIRC). No reason he shouldn't capitalise on his earning potential as the champ either.
I think the best relationship he had with a team was with Moto Rapido/Oxford Products, he was there for what was it? 3 seasons? Last year he was top performing Ducati if i remember rightly so he was obviously at home there but i can see him being difficult to manage and he's ridden for a few teams over the years
Vivaldi
Didn't he ride for TAS at one point?
I remember him riding for Milwaukee Yamaha in 2013 but was that the year he was seat warmer in three different teams?

I do like him but it's a reaction to his time with NB Suzuki when his brother was still alive but i can also see why people like Gelnn Irwin too, he came across far more mature after their Donington incident and yes, did seem like Jordan was in Glenn's pit garage but maybe they've put their efforts behind him going forward and it's their team so they can do whatever they decide is right for the team.
I can also see Tommy calling it a day before long, i know he said he wants to defend the title next year but everything he's done has leading up to this point and now he's achieved what he said he wanted to, what is there left to do?


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Mortgage_tom said:
Richard Cooper to ride in the new twin class for FHO next year?

Thought it was interesting that during the interviews after winning the BMW cup, Cooper said he wouldn’t defend the win. But Faye Ho said although she wouldn’t make an announcement,would have news for next season or something, she pretty much said Cooper would be riding with her team again next year. I thought could be Supersport & the North West maybe, but perhaps the new twin class..

Assume Brookes and Hickman staying for the Superbike class.
I'm sure i read somewhere that Hickman and Brookes have already signed up for 2024 with FHO and yeah sounds about right for Cooper, FHO are the official BSB BMW factory supported team so they don't have an official SSP entry although PHR do with the Triumph

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DarthtaterM16 said:
airsafari87 said:
DarthtaterM16 said:
For what reason out of interest?
From the interview with Jordan Bird.

It seemed that her and the team were very much for Glen and what the successes they could have in the future.

Most mentions of Tommy seemed to be afterthoughts.

This isn’t a criticism of the team or Tommy by the way, just the gut feeling I got from listening to the interview with her.
Yeah. I haven’t heard the interview but me and my wife were saying on Sunday that it was interesting that Jordan Bird was holding Irwin’s umbrella on the grid and things like that.
Tommy also said himself that there was a divide in the garage.
I think a lot of that is that Glenn is a publicists dream, he talks about the race, he praises the bike and the team, he isn't tattooed, he doesn't ramble on about weird things, for want of a better phrase he is professional.
Tommy on the other hand is a wildcard, always has been and always will be. Not that he isn't professional but he isnt a professional if that makes sense.
He waffles on about all sorts of things, mentions the team now and then, occasionally slips a bit of profanity in when he is excited and teams don't necessarily want that these days. I guess in a way he is a throw back to the bygone days of James Hunt and his badge that read
Sex, The breakfast of Champions
But like i said, he is professional, he's just a different kind of professional to Glenn.

If that all makes sense.