Screening recommendations - fast growing

Screening recommendations - fast growing

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CivicDuties

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Wednesday 15th May
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I'm looking for a fast growing screening solution for a front garden boundary. The catch is that I'll be planting the stuff in a narrow gap between a sewer, which is already prone to clogging up with roots, and the boundary in question.

So the problem is finding a plant which will grow thick and fast, but have minimal impact on the drains. Photo attached of situation, which will explain why I'm wanting the screen in place also (there's pretty much permanent junk and multiple bins there, visible from my dining room on the ground floor) - you can clearly see where the drain runs from the manhole cover, it's going front to back rather than side to side. Doesn't need to be high, about 5 feet will do it. It's on my southern boundary so don't want it to block too much light either. I have very poor quality soil there - I tried some rhododendrons and they died within a couple of years and have been removed.



Any ideas/suggestions please?

RustyMX5

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218 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Laurel which can be an arse if it starts to get too big.
Running bamboo. BUT, you will need to dig in a restrictive sheet to prevent it ending up 2 miles away.

I've got a couple of Laurels in pots I'd be only too happy to give away despite the protestations of SWMBO

CivicDuties

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Bit nervous about bamboo as I don't want anything which might get under next door's brick driveway and disturb it.

Laurel might be OK - what the root situation like with those? Likely to get in my drains and block them regularly/damage them?

RustyMX5

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Wednesday 15th May
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With bamboo there are two types:

Clamping Bamboo (Fargesia and sub plants) - These usually spread out in a circle around the centre of the plant. Approx 5m2
Running Bamboo (Various) - These typically have shallow 'roots' but will just keep running which is why people typically dig in some plastic sheet or equivalent to prevent it running too far. Specialist bamboo suppliers tend to have the sheeting available.

https://bambooplantshq.com/bamboo-screening-plants...

Laurel roots can spread but are usually fairly shallow apart from the tap root which can end up about 10ft deep. Depending on the laurel chosen will depend on how invasive the root system can be.

This can provide a bit of guidance:

https://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/for-places/screening

CivicDuties

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Thanks, I'll have a read of those links.

Ace-T

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256 months

Wednesday 15th May
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You could put a row of pots along the inside of your wall with plants in. You can then water them from your downpipes. Then you won't have a root problem?

CivicDuties

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That's not a bad idea, Ace-T. What plants would you suggest would thrive in pots and grow thickly to about 5ft high?

RustyMX5

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For reference this is a Fargesia Robusta Campbell I put in either 3 or 4 years ago.


roadie

667 posts

263 months

Wednesday 15th May
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I reckon hawthorn or blackthorn etc would be a good shout.

OutInTheShed

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27 months

Wednesday 15th May
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First thoughts are various hedge plants.
But you might get a quicker result with various climbers on a trellis.

Evergreen is obviously good for 12 month screening, but I would consider a mixture of stuff.
You can always remove some in future years when the slower growing stuff gets established.
You don't need 100% coverage to tone down the view of te crap behind.

rustyuk

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212 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Quickest option would be a fence

ATG

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273 months

Wednesday 15th May
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I'm no gardner, but I too was going to suggest climbers on a trellis. Roots wouldn't damage a sewer. Maybe an evergreen clematis?

CivicDuties

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How would I erect a trellis there? If I nailed one to the low wall, it would break in the wind once there was foliage on it - I know this because the fence in my back garden facing the same way has been broken in winds 3 times in the 15 years I've lived here. It would snap like a matchstick sadly. And would any plant on a trellis provide year round screening?

Common Porpoise

700 posts

171 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Have a look at Portuguese laurel - Prunus Lusitanica. Smaller leaved and less unruly than cherry laurel.

Irish Yew- taxus baccata fastigiata is extremely resilient and has a nice tight upright growth habit. Varieties like "david" have some variation in colour which is a bit more interesting than English yew

Italian Cypress- Cupressus Sempervirens Pyramidalis
"Totem" has a neat upright habit and looks very nice in rows.

Pittosporum tenuifolium- varities like 'arundel green" and "garnetii"

Griselinia littoralis is a good evergreen hedging staple.

Privet - Ligustrum ovalifolium.
Hornbeam - carpinus betulus
Beech - fagus sylvatica / sylvatica purpurea
Classic hedging staples commonly sold as bare root plants but it's the wrong time of year for that now.

Depending on soil suitability a row of Cammelia japonica can look very good and can be pruned and shaped like hedging.
pieris also work well on more acidic soil.

Japanese barberry -berberis thunbergii works very well as hedging. Looks for rocket varieties that are more upright than spreading..lots of nice colours from deep burgundy reds to bright yellow/green

Californian lilac -ceanothus is another good one. Lots of shapes and sizes that can be pruned to shape.as required .Fantastic blue flowers in april/may. my favourites are "italian skies" and "concha".

(Fargesia) Bamboo in pots isn't a great idea as it will need lots of watering. It also drops leaves constantly and doesn't really do well without some shelter from wind.

Whatever you choose it is worth putting some effort into improving soil conditions before planting by addition of compost/manure/soil improver and horticultural sand or grit. Using mycorrhizal fungi planting additive is also a good move and makes a real difference to plant helath and vigour.


Edited by Common Porpoise on Wednesday 15th May 15:59

CivicDuties

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Thank you, Comrade Porpoise. Are any of these suggestions particularly non-invasive of root?

4Q

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145 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Ivy on wire mesh fence, if you used angle iron metal posts screwed to the wall it wouldn't blow down. Very easy to grow and won't need much care once established



Edited by 4Q on Wednesday 15th May 16:08

Common Porpoise

700 posts

171 months

Wednesday 15th May
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CivicDuties said:
Thank you, Comrade Porpoise. Are any of these suggestions particularly non-invasive of root?
I don't think you will have an issue with any of those options .. just steer clear of Prunus rotundifolia and Cupressus Leylandii!

bigandclever

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Wednesday 15th May
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Would you be terribly offended if I suggested something artificial? Plenty of options available.

CivicDuties

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bigandclever said:
Would you be terribly offended if I suggested something artificial? Plenty of options available.
Not at all, go ahead.

Gas1883

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rustyuk said:
Quickest option would be a fence
This is what we did , ripped out the hedge & put up a fence , so much easier & neater .