Cayenne diesel S (it’s a V8)

Cayenne diesel S (it’s a V8)

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gareth h

3,595 posts

232 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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KPB1973 said:
Intriguing...on reflection I'm not sure how much extra strain I want to put on components given mine is on 116k now, but resolving the soggy throttle travel over the first few inches would transform the car.
Have a chat with Ray at West tuning, he has forgotten more than most “experts” will ever know, I’m sure he could limit max power / torque while filling in the bottom end (he’s not the cheapest but spends the best part of a day on the rolling road to get things right)

Neues87

3 posts

6 months

Wednesday 17th January
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Found me a car finally - 2015 v8 S Eu5 with 75 000 miles from Porsche Gothenburg, 1 year warranty etc.

The good; PASM on Air, auxiliary heater, 21” turbo wheels, 18 way seats, transfer box replaced, new brakes all around

The not so good; white, base audio, no LED lights (base xenon), no factory tint

Love the car so far - excellent mpg considering the performance and an engine to die for - really suits the car with all that torque.

Will make sure to snap a few pictures and upload.

Plans so far; tint in the same shade as factory, possible lowering links (just a smidge) and maybe a tune if I can stomach voiding the warranty.


Carlos24

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543 posts

175 months

Wednesday 17th January
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Sounds a great spec, the air suspension is really impressive i hadn’t really been in an SUV that could stay flat in corners before the Cayenne! As you say the torque is the main thing that’s impressive and only more so with a map!

TonyCrantock

2 posts

4 months

Tuesday 13th February
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Another V8S owner here.
I bought mine last July and have done 10k miles in the past seven months.

I had originally planned to buy a 64 plate as it appeared to be the sweet spot of the 958.2 facelift, but without adblue complications. However, I then got carried away and bought the lowest mileage 17 plate I could find! Part of the appeal is that the original owner had specced £31k optional extras….. my essential upgrades were 18-way seats, pano roof and air suspension, which were a surprisingly difficult trio to find (most cars had 2 out of 3). But it also came with all sorts of things, including the Burmeister hi-fi, Classic Sport wheels, Sport Chrono, and leather everywhere. It also has the removable towbar and had the transfer case replaced. Mine is also an unusual sapphire blue, as I wanted something other than the usual black or grey. The one odd omission is that it has standard headlights which is a bit of an irritation.

The 18-way seats are now the most important spec for me. I’m sure they were an expensive upgrade when new, but they allow the perfect compromise between extreme comfort and lateral support when pressing on. Indeed, I occasionally do a 350 mile trip without stopping and not once have I had any aches and pains at the end of the journey.

The powertrain and handling combo is peerless, as Steve Sutcliffe opined in the video link elsewhere in this thread, it seems to cover all bases with being limo quiet and serene in Comfort yet it will also also hitch up it’s skirt and genuinely deliver driving pleasure when wind it up to Sport Plus. Having said that, it is not a sports car so is left in Comfort with Sport throttle 95% of the time.

I am a track enthusiast and have used the Cayenne to tow my M3, which it does with apparent distain! I live down in Cornwall, and after turning off the M5 onto the A30 I set the cruise control at a little over 60 mph and the car will sit there for the next 80 miles - I think it might have changed from 8th to 7th, going up one of the particularly steep hills, but otherwise the speedo remains rock solid for the entire duration! It even returned 30 mpg, dragging two tons behind it - my wife previously had a BMW X5 40e hybrid, which when performing the same journey returned 17 mpg!

The engine is incredibly robust, as long as you use it sufficiently to regenerate the DPF. I had considered a remap from Darkside Developments, including an EGR and adblue delete, but as outlined by all owners above, it doesn’t really need any more power and a modest stage one produces 1000Nm of torque, so even with the updated transmission case, I would be concerned that it will chew that up even faster.

I am a serial car nut, but I can genuinely see this car sticking around for years with the other toys rotating around it. Following Diesel-gate in the US, they stopped producing the V8 diesel and focussed on hybrids so mine, as a 17 plate, is about as new as you can get.

The only issue I’ve had in 10k miles is when the car went into limp mode. I feared a clogged DPF, but it transpired to be a common rail pressure sensor and easily resolved.

It will shortly need new boots, so I’m steeling myself for a big bill, but I’m likely to fit Michelins as I don’t see the point in saving £300 and compromising your next 20k miles!

bolidemichael

14,033 posts

203 months

Tuesday 13th February
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Great review… but missing photos!

TEKNOPUG

19,055 posts

207 months

Tuesday 13th February
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Prices are all over the place at the moment. But as you say, trying to find one in the right spec is a nightmare. Or without a bright red leather interior - or black & toffee wobble

Carlos24

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543 posts

175 months

Tuesday 13th February
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Yeah prices do seem to vary really hugely! I think I got into mine at about the peak price and now it’s in a trough but I guess if you intend to keep it a while then that’s not an issue as I don’t feel like I’ve been mugged when I’m using it. I don’t have the 18 way seats but still find them to be very comfortable chairs for a long run. As I am probably keeping the car long term I am fairly tempted to do a DPF delete just to remove a possible source of problems in the future. Mines the very last of the cars without adblue so sounds really good and I can’t help but think it will sound even better without a DPF

OppoLocksmith

105 posts

133 months

Tuesday 13th February
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We bought ours in November at 150,000 and completed a torrential trip to Amsterdam and back. It's been a really impressive bit of kit so far, I'm pretty sure the transfer box is on the way out but specialist costs don't seem too bad to replace. The engine is an absolute peach and space inside particularly legroom in the back is superb.

Carlos24

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543 posts

175 months

Tuesday 13th February
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OppoLocksmith said:
We bought ours in November at 150,000 and completed a torrential trip to Amsterdam and back. It's been a really impressive bit of kit so far, I'm pretty sure the transfer box is on the way out but specialist costs don't seem too bad to replace. The engine is an absolute peach and space inside particularly legroom in the back is superb.
Yeah I was really impressed with the rear leg room, the fact the back seats move back and forward definitely helps when having child seats in

gareth h

3,595 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th February
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A couple of gripes with mine, does anybody else find that the stop / start can turn the engine off while still rolling slowly? A bit disconcerting as the power steering suddenly stops working.
And, if you hit standing water the front tyres spray water over the screen, again a bit disconcerting if the wipers aren’t already operating, I don’t think I’ve had this on any other car.
Apart from that I’m loving it, so comfy on long motorway sections, and reasonable in the twisties so long as you don’t need to adjust your line half way round a bend (when it starts to feel like a 2.25 tonne SUV)

Carlos24

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543 posts

175 months

Wednesday 14th February
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gareth h said:
A couple of gripes with mine, does anybody else find that the stop / start can turn the engine off while still rolling slowly? A bit disconcerting as the power steering suddenly stops working.
And, if you hit standing water the front tyres spray water over the screen, again a bit disconcerting if the wipers aren’t already operating, I don’t think I’ve had this on any other car.
Apart from that I’m loving it, so comfy on long motorway sections, and reasonable in the twisties so long as you don’t need to adjust your line half way round a bend (when it starts to feel like a 2.25 tonne SUV)
I have noticed that the stop/start does do that when you are just stopping and it is quite disconcerting as you say. First button I press after starting mine is the one to turn stop/start off to be fair. I can’t say I have noticed the spray of water onto the windscreen, what size wheels are you running? I’m on the 21’s with 295 width tyres on.

gareth h

3,595 posts

232 months

Wednesday 14th February
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Carlos24 said:
I have noticed that the stop/start does do that when you are just stopping and it is quite disconcerting as you say. First button I press after starting mine is the one to turn stop/start off to be fair. I can’t say I have noticed the spray of water onto the windscreen, what size wheels are you running? I’m on the 21’s with 295 width tyres on.
Yep, same size tyres, although it does rain A LOT in West Wales! and I usually do the same with stop / start (have assigned the steering wheel switch to it so I don’t have to fumble about in the centre console), but every now and again it slips my mind, it seems a major oversight by Porsche that you can be rolling up to a roundabout and the engine cuts just before you decide to accelerate.

Carlos24

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543 posts

175 months

Saturday 17th February
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gareth h said:
Yep, same size tyres, although it does rain A LOT in West Wales! and I usually do the same with stop / start (have assigned the steering wheel switch to it so I don’t have to fumble about in the centre console), but every now and again it slips my mind, it seems a major oversight by Porsche that you can be rolling up to a roundabout and the engine cuts just before you decide to accelerate.
I can’t imagine the weather in sunny Morecambe bay is much better than it is in west wales haha.. in the particularly bad weather we’ve had the last few days I haven’t noticed the car spraying water onto the windscreen more than any other vehicle I must say, unless the difference is in tyre tread pattern or something!

gareth h

3,595 posts

232 months

Saturday 17th February
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Carlos24 said:
I can’t imagine the weather in sunny Morecambe bay is much better than it is in west wales haha.. in the particularly bad weather we’ve had the last few days I haven’t noticed the car spraying water onto the windscreen more than any other vehicle I must say, unless the difference is in tyre tread pattern or something!
Interesting, I changed from Yokos to Michelin Latitude yesterday, I’ll see if it improves

Carlos24

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543 posts

175 months

Sunday 18th February
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gareth h said:
Interesting, I changed from Yokos to Michelin Latitude yesterday, I’ll see if it improves
I’m on Goodyear eagle F1 SUV tyres but would imagine any ‘premium’ tyre would be fair similar with water displacement etc. very strange

Cobnapint

8,649 posts

153 months

Sunday 18th February
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cologne2792 said:
I have to say that I've never liked them....right up until this thread started.

What a brilliant thing!

A tremendous combination of poke and mpg.

Well done!
Same here, until in 2010 I sent my then 911 C4S in for a service and they lent me a V8S petrol. I could not believe how good they were.
I ordered a V6 diesel in 2012 and ran it for 11 years. Best car I ever had in 40 years of driving. I regret selling it, I'm in a Macan S now and it's nothing like.

Carlos24

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543 posts

175 months

Sunday 18th February
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Cobnapint said:
Same here, until in 2010 I sent my then 911 C4S in for a service and they lent me a V8S petrol. I could not believe how good they were.
I ordered a V6 diesel in 2012 and ran it for 11 years. Best car I ever had in 40 years of driving. I regret selling it, I'm in a Macan S now and it's nothing like.
I was fairly tempted by a macan turbo but I didn’t think it would be big enough for my needs with two young kids and a Labrador as well, why is the macan not living up to the Cayenne out of curiosity?

Cobnapint

8,649 posts

153 months

Sunday 18th February
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Carlos24 said:
I was fairly tempted by a macan turbo but I didn’t think it would be big enough for my needs with two young kids and a Labrador as well, why is the macan not living up to the Cayenne out of curiosity?
You don't get that big car feel in the Macan because you don't sit as high up. The offset driving position is a niggle as well but the biggest downer for me is the highly acclaimed 14-way comfort seats. I had the 8-way comforts in the Cayenne and they were comfy as hell. I'm pretty sure the comforts in the Macan aren't 'quite' as wide and this, for me (even though I'm only a slim/medium build, 11 stone weakling) ruins it. I just can't get comfy, no matter how many tweaks I make.

As an aside I reckon the Cayenne handles slightly better too. It really is that good.

TonyCrantock

2 posts

4 months

Tuesday 21st May
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What a magnificent machine the V8DS is!

I have just returned from a weekend at the Nurburgring in convoy with a track prepped M3 and a GT3 Touring and the Cayenne was arguably the star of the weekend. It transported passengers and track wheels/spares across Europe in supreme comfort, coped remarkably with off-road trails within the circuit to access various viewing points, despite being on Michelin Latitude road tyres (the joy of air suspension and locking diffs) and then hit 155 mph on the way home - not quite as exciting as a bright yellow GT3 but what an extraordinary breadth of skills. I genuinely wouldn’t choose anything else.

K50 DEL

9,275 posts

230 months

Tuesday 21st May
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TonyCrantock said:
What a magnificent machine the V8DS is!

I have just returned from a weekend at the Nurburgring in convoy with a track prepped M3 and a GT3 Touring and the Cayenne was arguably the star of the weekend. It transported passengers and track wheels/spares across Europe in supreme comfort, coped remarkably with off-road trails within the circuit to access various viewing points, despite being on Michelin Latitude road tyres (the joy of air suspension and locking diffs) and then hit 155 mph on the way home - not quite as exciting as a bright yellow GT3 but what an extraordinary breadth of skills. I genuinely wouldn’t choose anything else.
I actually did a lap of the ring in mine late last year, I don't have air suspension but it coped just fine and made me laugh at the incongruity of it.

A brilliant car that even after 2 years I can't think of anything in my budget that I'd rather drive.