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newsatten said:
Ok so look on the bright side
We’ll have lots of exspensive ornaments between us !
And how would anyone actually know what’s been done to a restored vehicle?
If it’s been done properly it should just look factory!
As for tossers who convert any car to ev deserve all the grief they get !
It's all about control and money, no matter which colour rosette the tossers are wearing. Where's my tinfoil hat? We’ll have lots of exspensive ornaments between us !
And how would anyone actually know what’s been done to a restored vehicle?
If it’s been done properly it should just look factory!
As for tossers who convert any car to ev deserve all the grief they get !
I'm with you on the Ev conversion thing, the engine is the soul of a classic car in my view. My Firebird may be objectively s
te, but it sounds great! Without that V8, meh, what's the point?newsatten said:
What's wrong with that?
(in ours cases though, we'd need an additional space called 'armoury'
)I always think back to that late 70's american TV show, Vegas, where the lead character was a private eye Dan Tanna, and he drove a red '57 T-Bird where he used to live in what looked like a storage unit, where he used to drive drive his T-Bird through the shutter door into his living room in effect.......as a teenager, I thought that was my ideal living arrangement right there
LeighW said:
It's all about control and money, no matter which colour rosette the tossers are wearing. Where's my tinfoil hat?
I'm with you on the Ev conversion thing, the engine is the soul of a classic car in my view. My Firebird may be objectively ste, but it sounds great! Without that V8, meh, what's the point?
Makes me think firstly about current model Mustangs.........why would you buy a 4 cylinder?. Won't get in to the debate re. RHD American manufactured cars not being a 'proper' Yank (with a steering wheel on the wrong side) and a mid-sized Ford SUV getting a Mustang moniker.....IMHO I don't actually think that a current Mustang?(especially the Mach 1 variant) has any resemblance to an old school fastback.I'm with you on the Ev conversion thing, the engine is the soul of a classic car in my view. My Firebird may be objectively s
te, but it sounds great! Without that V8, meh, what's the point?roscobbc said:
LeighW said:
It's all about control and money, no matter which colour rosette the tossers are wearing. Where's my tinfoil hat?
I'm with you on the Ev conversion thing, the engine is the soul of a classic car in my view. My Firebird may be objectively ste, but it sounds great! Without that V8, meh, what's the point?
Makes me think firstly about current model Mustangs.........why would you buy a 4 cylinder?.I'm with you on the Ev conversion thing, the engine is the soul of a classic car in my view. My Firebird may be objectively s
te, but it sounds great! Without that V8, meh, what's the point?The used 2.3 4cyl versions now on the used market (no doubt mostly originally company/lease cars) struggle to sell for the same reason no private buyers bought them new.
Hmmmmmm, the reason may be looks and costs...?
Same with the first gen Mustangs, the I6 to V8 ratio was 2/3 - 1/2 (roughly) in favour of the V8. You may remember the ads, which targeted the frugal or even the secretary type, who rated the looks and feeling, but not the costs of big V8s.
The sixes in the Mustang were dogs, but the 67/68 Firebird had the I6 advertised as the 'european' sportscar variant for the people who preferred a nimble feel and good roadholding to sheer grunt (oh well...) and had some go as well, but of course nothing against the big 400 cui.
So as a full line manufacturer you have to give what people want, and the sixes and fours had their customers, especially for the newer models.
The 4 cyl S550 is a very good engine in a good car, in some areas better than the V8, but of course the whole raison d'etre for cars like that (at least for our kinda guys) is the stonking V8, torque, soundtrack and all.
But you have to admit, they look good in either guise.
Same with the first gen Mustangs, the I6 to V8 ratio was 2/3 - 1/2 (roughly) in favour of the V8. You may remember the ads, which targeted the frugal or even the secretary type, who rated the looks and feeling, but not the costs of big V8s.
The sixes in the Mustang were dogs, but the 67/68 Firebird had the I6 advertised as the 'european' sportscar variant for the people who preferred a nimble feel and good roadholding to sheer grunt (oh well...) and had some go as well, but of course nothing against the big 400 cui.
So as a full line manufacturer you have to give what people want, and the sixes and fours had their customers, especially for the newer models.
The 4 cyl S550 is a very good engine in a good car, in some areas better than the V8, but of course the whole raison d'etre for cars like that (at least for our kinda guys) is the stonking V8, torque, soundtrack and all.
But you have to admit, they look good in either guise.
I owned a '70 Mustang vert. It was fully spec'd in terms of body options.....but smallest 6 banger engine with 3 speed manual transmission. Actually quite nippy 'off the line'.....but like an old black cab, for the first 10/12 yards......then nothing........
'Kin horrible thing to drive! - drove it once...... immediately sold it!
'Kin horrible thing to drive! - drove it once...... immediately sold it!
Edited by roscobbc on Tuesday 21st May 18:15
roscobbc said:
I owned a '70 Mustang very. It was fully spec'd in terms of body options.....but smallest 6 banger engine with 3 speed manual transmission. Actually quite nippy 'off the line'.....but like an old black cab, for the first 10/12 yards......then nothing........
'Kin horrible thing to drive!
'Kin horrible thing to drive!
But
Did it look good...?
sidewinder500 said:
roscobbc said:
I owned a '70 Mustang very. It was fully spec'd in terms of body options.....but smallest 6 banger engine with 3 speed manual transmission. Actually quite nippy 'off the line'.....but like an old black cab, for the first 10/12 yards......then nothing........
'Kin horrible thing to drive!
'Kin horrible thing to drive!
But
Did it look good...?
newsatten said:
That would be perfect ,trouble is i would run out of money before space , Round in circles ,no good having the space and no money to fill it likewise having the money with lack of space,
Must be all of our dreams to have both.
Another idea would be a fully fitted RV parked inside then you could do away with the bathroom,kitchen and bedroom
completely and squeeze another 3 cars in , It's a pity they don't have the equivalent to alcohol anonymous for our disorder.
aeropilot said:
newsatten said:
What's wrong with that?
(in ours cases though, we'd need an additional space called 'armoury'
)I always think back to that late 70's american TV show, Vegas, where the lead character was a private eye Dan Tanna, and he drove a red '57 T-Bird where he used to live in what looked like a storage unit, where he used to drive drive his T-Bird through the shutter door into his living room in effect.......as a teenager, I thought that was my ideal living arrangement right there
i still remember Dan Tanna leaping out of his T/Bird onto his couch without even opening the doors,
ratrod 2 said:
aeropilot said:
newsatten said:
What's wrong with that?
(in ours cases though, we'd need an additional space called 'armoury'
)I always think back to that late 70's american TV show, Vegas, where the lead character was a private eye Dan Tanna, and he drove a red '57 T-Bird where he used to live in what looked like a storage unit, where he used to drive drive his T-Bird through the shutter door into his living room in effect.......as a teenager, I thought that was my ideal living arrangement right there
i still remember Dan Tanna leaping out of his T/Bird onto his couch without even opening the doors,
Fabulous looking car and cool beyond words
Still got a corgi/dinky version in its box of this particular car,
Think Robert Urich ( forgive the spelling)
Had some health issues and died quite young
Sad ……
newsatten said:
Pretty sure that’s was when I got the TBird bug,
Fabulous looking car and cool beyond words
Still got a corgi/dinky version in its box of this particular car,
Think Robert Urich ( forgive the spelling)
Had some health issues and died quite young
Sad ……
Our Essex region CCCUK drew out some interesting cars - as usual several C3's a couple of C4's (one a black quad cam ZR1) and a couple of C8's and a very nice relatively fresh-in (freshly restored) from the 'States 57 'Bird in baby blue......nice car. Fabulous looking car and cool beyond words
Still got a corgi/dinky version in its box of this particular car,
Think Robert Urich ( forgive the spelling)
Had some health issues and died quite young
Sad ……
sidewinder500 said:
Hmmmmmm, the reason may be looks and costs...?
Same with the first gen Mustangs, the I6 to V8 ratio was 2/3 - 1/2 (roughly) in favour of the V8. You may remember the ads, which targeted the frugal or even the secretary type, who rated the looks and feeling, but not the costs of big V8s.
The sixes in the Mustang were dogs, but the 67/68 Firebird had the I6 advertised as the 'european' sportscar variant for the people who preferred a nimble feel and good roadholding to sheer grunt (oh well...) and had some go as well, but of course nothing against the big 400 cui.
So as a full line manufacturer you have to give what people want, and the sixes and fours had their customers, especially for the newer models.
The 4 cyl S550 is a very good engine in a good car, in some areas better than the V8, but of course the whole raison d'etre for cars like that (at least for our kinda guys) is the stonking V8, torque, soundtrack and all.
But you have to admit, they look good in either guise.
My dad had a 67 Mustang in 67,it was 6 months old and only the 2nd Mustang in our town.Same with the first gen Mustangs, the I6 to V8 ratio was 2/3 - 1/2 (roughly) in favour of the V8. You may remember the ads, which targeted the frugal or even the secretary type, who rated the looks and feeling, but not the costs of big V8s.
The sixes in the Mustang were dogs, but the 67/68 Firebird had the I6 advertised as the 'european' sportscar variant for the people who preferred a nimble feel and good roadholding to sheer grunt (oh well...) and had some go as well, but of course nothing against the big 400 cui.
So as a full line manufacturer you have to give what people want, and the sixes and fours had their customers, especially for the newer models.
The 4 cyl S550 is a very good engine in a good car, in some areas better than the V8, but of course the whole raison d'etre for cars like that (at least for our kinda guys) is the stonking V8, torque, soundtrack and all.
But you have to admit, they look good in either guise.
Probably very few Mustangs in the whole of the UK back then .
People were just glad to see one let alone be bothered whether it was a 6 cylinder or a 8 cylinder
It only had a 6 pot with a 3 speed manual instead of a 289 V8 but seemed to matter less back then .
These days it would be ridiculed by the likes of us on today's forums,
Funny how our perceptions have changed over the years,
ratrod 2 said:
sidewinder500 said:
Hmmmmmm, the reason may be looks and costs...?
Same with the first gen Mustangs, the I6 to V8 ratio was 2/3 - 1/2 (roughly) in favour of the V8. You may remember the ads, which targeted the frugal or even the secretary type, who rated the looks and feeling, but not the costs of big V8s.
The sixes in the Mustang were dogs, but the 67/68 Firebird had the I6 advertised as the 'european' sportscar variant for the people who preferred a nimble feel and good roadholding to sheer grunt (oh well...) and had some go as well, but of course nothing against the big 400 cui.
So as a full line manufacturer you have to give what people want, and the sixes and fours had their customers, especially for the newer models.
The 4 cyl S550 is a very good engine in a good car, in some areas better than the V8, but of course the whole raison d'etre for cars like that (at least for our kinda guys) is the stonking V8, torque, soundtrack and all.
But you have to admit, they look good in either guise.
My dad had a 67 Mustang in 67,it was 6 months old and only the 2nd Mustang in our town.Same with the first gen Mustangs, the I6 to V8 ratio was 2/3 - 1/2 (roughly) in favour of the V8. You may remember the ads, which targeted the frugal or even the secretary type, who rated the looks and feeling, but not the costs of big V8s.
The sixes in the Mustang were dogs, but the 67/68 Firebird had the I6 advertised as the 'european' sportscar variant for the people who preferred a nimble feel and good roadholding to sheer grunt (oh well...) and had some go as well, but of course nothing against the big 400 cui.
So as a full line manufacturer you have to give what people want, and the sixes and fours had their customers, especially for the newer models.
The 4 cyl S550 is a very good engine in a good car, in some areas better than the V8, but of course the whole raison d'etre for cars like that (at least for our kinda guys) is the stonking V8, torque, soundtrack and all.
But you have to admit, they look good in either guise.
Probably very few Mustangs in the whole of the UK back then .
People were just glad to see one let alone be bothered whether it was a 6 cylinder or a 8 cylinder
It only had a 6 pot with a 3 speed manual instead of a 289 V8 but seemed to matter less back then .
These days it would be ridiculed by the likes of us on today's forums,
Funny how our perceptions have changed over the years,
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I remember my dad brought a 68’ Camaro RS
Primrose with a black top, that was a six but had a 4 speed transmission,
Drove lovely and was a very pretty car
Must have been a tick box car, and was put together in Belgium
Either the market's really on its arse or that 74 TA 455 isn't as good as it looks in the pictures. Looks really good value at £21k £20k now?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/135062354016?mkevt=1&am...
Edited as the price has just dropped by another £1000!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/135062354016?mkevt=1&am...
Edited as the price has just dropped by another £1000!
Edited by LeighW on Wednesday 22 May 10:50
LeighW said:
Either the market's really on its arse or that 74 TA 455 isn't as good as it looks in the pictures. Looks really good value at £21k £20k now?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/135062354016?mkevt=1&am...
Edited as the price has just dropped by another £1000!
This photo looks very worrying for what may lurk underneath the shiney coat of paint.......https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/135062354016?mkevt=1&am...
Edited as the price has just dropped by another £1000!
Edited by LeighW on Wednesday 22 May 10:50
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