Stannah stairlifts and similar

Stannah stairlifts and similar

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Simpo Two

85,883 posts

267 months

Monday 20th May
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Matt Harper said:
More than happy to offer unbiased advice - but a custom curve - even a basic L-shape 90 degree bend is typically in region of GBP11,500.
Yet a year later when it's redundant it's worth £300...

solo2

869 posts

149 months

Monday 20th May
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Can your council's Adult Social Services not help with installation or is that only for disabled people rather than those with age related issues?

I fall under the former and they are happy to install a through floor lift as my stairs will not accommodate a stair lift.

popeyewhite

20,217 posts

122 months

Monday 20th May
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Simpo Two said:
Matt Harper said:
More than happy to offer unbiased advice - but a custom curve - even a basic L-shape 90 degree bend is typically in region of GBP11,500.
Yet a year later when it's redundant it's worth £300...
It's not worth £11500 in the first place. There's nothing wrong with reconditioned units, my mum's was smooth and ran perfectly for 1.5 years, @ £1.7k. We got backup, servicing and a buy back guarantee.

Matt Harper

6,651 posts

203 months

Monday 20th May
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popeyewhite said:
Simpo Two said:
Matt Harper said:
More than happy to offer unbiased advice - but a custom curve - even a basic L-shape 90 degree bend is typically in region of GBP11,500.
Yet a year later when it's redundant it's worth £300...
It's not worth £11500 in the first place. There's nothing wrong with reconditioned units, my mum's was smooth and ran perfectly for 1.5 years, @ £1.7k. We got backup, servicing and a buy back guarantee.
Indeed, Simpo Two - it is something of a "grubby" business - but a custom made lift is made for a specific staircase, so the rail system is unique and worthless to anyone else (unless it is a modular type, which have their own set of inherent limitations). The carriage (drive unit) and seat are re-useable and are the only components that have value. However, they have to be removed, reconditioned, re-marketed and reinstalled, with a new rail system that has to be surveyed, sold and purchased from the manufacturer. All that activity has cost attached to it.

Popeyewhite - I think we have things wrapped around the axle - my assumption is you are referring to a reconditioned straight rail lift - which would be eminently re-useable and in the price range you mention (though that was a real bargain, depending on the lift type.
When I was in the re-purposing game, I never paid anything for a second-hand lift, but I would remove it free of charge. That's all most people wanted in the final analysis - the lift being a visible reminder of a lost loved one.

Of course, the down-side of any second-hand lift is a potential lack of transparency, regarding the history and use/misuse of the lift and very often, significantly less comprehensive warranty coverage.

Stairlift rental is where the big money for old rope is......

oblio

5,426 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st May
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A good indie will also sell and install warrantied second hand ones too. The FiL had a second hand one installed for £1100, 2 years ago. It was a straight run with no curves. He has it serviced annually: I contact the installer who then rings the FiL to sort out a date. He charges £85 for a service.

Paulsd

233 posts

96 months

Tuesday 21st May
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My PIL got their second hand one from Stairlift Express about three years ago. It's a very straight forward set of stairs. It was £750.

It's been completely reliable and Stairlift Express come every year to service it for about £150. This includes a warranty.

They're in the north and my PIL are in Kent.

8-P

2,775 posts

262 months

Tuesday 21st May
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You can get a quote online from Stannah - see how it compares to your in person quote

https://www.stannah.com/stairlift-builder

netherfield

2,709 posts

186 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Dad had one fitted, died within 12 months, don't know how much he paid.

It had a sticker on it from a local firm, I asked if they would buy it back, the guy laughed and said he'd take it away for nothing.

Likely make a tidy sum selling it on, looked like new, had it away in less than 20 mins, needed to get rid quick because we'd already sold the house.

We were warned to be careful trying to sell it as a used model because we couldn't guarantee it was in sound working order.

popeyewhite

20,217 posts

122 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Matt Harper said:
Popeyewhite - I think we have things wrapped around the axle - my assumption is you are referring to a reconditioned straight rail lift - which would be eminently re-useable and in the price range you mention (though that was a real bargain, depending on the lift type.
When I was in the re-purposing game, I never paid anything for a second-hand lift, but I would remove it free of charge. That's all most people wanted in the final analysis - the lift being a visible reminder of a lost loved one.
Hi Matt, no it was a curved rail and yes it was reconditioned (Acorn). The company (Halton Stairlifts, based in Liverpool I think) came today to remove it and paid me £340. We had the unit nearly two years and it worked very well. I'd recommend Halton. Looks like we got a good deal.

Matt Harper

6,651 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st May
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popeyewhite said:
Matt Harper said:
Popeyewhite - I think we have things wrapped around the axle - my assumption is you are referring to a reconditioned straight rail lift - which would be eminently re-useable and in the price range you mention (though that was a real bargain, depending on the lift type.
When I was in the re-purposing game, I never paid anything for a second-hand lift, but I would remove it free of charge. That's all most people wanted in the final analysis - the lift being a visible reminder of a lost loved one.
Hi Matt, no it was a curved rail and yes it was reconditioned (Acorn). The company (Halton Stairlifts, based in Liverpool I think) came today to remove it and paid me £340. We had the unit nearly two years and it worked very well. I'd recommend Halton. Looks like we got a good deal.
I confess to being unfamiliar with Halton Stairlifts. Supplying and installing (and subsequently un-installing) an Acorn 180 lift for a net charge of GBP1,360 - minus what they paid for it in the first place means they bagged around 1k for the entire transaction. Installing an Acorn 180 takes 2 guys about 4 hours, if they know what they are doing. Removing takes one tech about 2 hours - so - 10 hours of labour. Then there's fuel, premises, marketing and the time it takes to persuade the homeowner to buy one in the first place. They are essentially operating as a charity. This is assuming that the council did not also pay for the lift and Halton ripped-off your folks for the extra. Would not be the first or last time that little prank was pulled...

popeyewhite

20,217 posts

122 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Took one guy about 3 hours to install, and one very nice guy called Sean (met him today) about 40 minutes to dismantle and get into the van.

Matt Harper

6,651 posts

203 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Sorry, re-reading my previous, it comes across as officious and assumptive.

Congratulations - you got the deal of a lifetime there.

For reference, Acorn sells a 90 degree 180 lift for GBP8,500-10,500 without a middleman mark-up.

popeyewhite

20,217 posts

122 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Matt Harper said:
Congratulations - you got the deal of a lifetime there.
Seems so looking at what others have paid on this thread.

Narcisus

8,125 posts

282 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Had one for my mum 3k. Six weeks later passed away. Stairlift company said if anything like that happened they would buy it back. Offered us £250 quid.

I donated it to a company who look after St Luke’s patients so it will be put to good use for a number of people.

Bazsm

98 posts

11 months

Tuesday 21st May
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I did quite a lot of research a few years ago and we went with an Oto lift which has been perfect, it turns the corner at the top of the stairs so sits out of the way most of the time. It's a very tidy design and takes up minimum space, cost was £4,200 in 2020.

pork911

7,291 posts

185 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Jeremy-75qq8 said:
If you need a straight run you can likely find it on eBay but maintainance is vital as if it goes wrong they can't get up / down stairs
Maintenance Pffft this is clearly the race to the bottom (or not) budget stairlift thread

FourWheelDrift

88,810 posts

286 months

Tuesday 21st May
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I think my mum got a straight rail one from Acorn a handful of years back for £1500. Still going strong.

dundarach

5,159 posts

230 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Shop around, mum had one it was great.

I recently installed one in a large secondary school, to a single room upstairs, large curved stairs considerably higher than domestic, easily twice the distance and massive sweeping curve and two runs, was less than £12k.

In a house I'd be expecting at least half this, I seem to remember mums being a couple of thousand that was perhaps 10 years ago??

Then again - East Yorkshire, not sure where you are.


Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area

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7,067 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Thanks again for the feedback, and I’ll check out Halton as they’re in the NW as are my parents.

mikeiow

5,524 posts

132 months

Tuesday 21st May
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After some years of use for the in-laws, we found ourselves with a Stannah to remove and take away
We sold it to "webuyanystairlift.com" for £100
Yes, it is a real company, paying real cash.

They are expensive items, and clearly not worth what you pay (especially as they generally need a regular ££ service!), but the Stannah units work well.