Ultra rare mk 1 Escort at upcoming auction

Ultra rare mk 1 Escort at upcoming auction

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gt40steve

722 posts

106 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Little Pete said:
Mark A S said:
GreatGranny said:
I don't think so,,,,,,, 50k!

Did not know a matching numbers G-box was originally a 5 sp wink Looks a nice car though, albeit i much prefer a non arched version for road use.
It probably means the engine and ‘box match each other and the Sierra they came out of, just not the car shown! Agree on the arches too.
Oh yes, following your post I just enlarged the pictures on a decent screen. Now I can see the wide gasket cam cover.


WPA

9,093 posts

116 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Talking of Iconic Auctions, this looked a good buy: https://www.iconicauctioneers.com/1980-ford-escort...

gt40steve

722 posts

106 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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WPA said:
Talking of Iconic Auctions, this looked a good buy: https://www.iconicauctioneers.com/1980-ford-escort...
Agreed, one of the better ones we've seen on here lately.

Maxdecel

1,308 posts

35 months

Friday 24th May
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Last taxed 1989 - https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-662--...
Estimate - £55,000 - £58,000
Lot of pics, lowering blocks ?

Mark A S

1,855 posts

190 months

Friday 24th May
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Maxdecel said:
Last taxed 1989 - https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-662--...
Estimate - £55,000 - £58,000
Lot of pics, lowering blocks ?
Apart from the steering wheel, better than new, which TBH i find off putting!

TaurusMexico

301 posts

146 months

Friday 24th May
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Compared to some of the cars that have been cropping up lately at inflated prices that one looks rather nice (apart from the steering wheel) and probably worth the money all day long. Wouldn't be surprised if it ends up going for more than the guide price !

aeropilot

35,010 posts

229 months

Friday 24th May
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Mark A S said:
Maxdecel said:
Last taxed 1989 - https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-662--...
Estimate - £55,000 - £58,000
Lot of pics, lowering blocks ?
Apart from the steering wheel, better than new, which TBH i find off putting!
The steering wheel, while perhaps not to many people's taste, is actually a correct optional Ford Motorsport Group 1 steering wheel that was available from Boreham at the time, and quite rare.
Personally I prefer the works style Springalex deep dish wheel, if wanting a change from the standard flat spoke RS wheel.

Wood dash is not original to the car, as the 6 dial piece has external screws, and they were screwed from the back at the factory, so no visible screws.
I'm not keen on the repro stamped VIN plate either....would rather see a tatty original in place even if scratched and worn etc.
Best color combo imho, even though the green decals are wrong shade to original, but no one has been able to reproduce them to correct shade over the years.
Its got the wrong style door cars for a RS2000 as well.
Its very shiney, and a bit too clean for me, especially the underside, as they never looked like that even as they left the merry-go-round production line at Aveley!!

Be interesting to see what it goes for. Despite me being critically picky, it looks a pretty good restoration considering some of the stuff seen for almost similar money.

Legacywr

12,286 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th May
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What’s going on with those cutouts in the bonnet? That’s not an original bonnet.

Hoonabator

584 posts

228 months

Saturday 25th May
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aeropilot said:
Mark A S said:
Maxdecel said:
Last taxed 1989 - https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-662--...
Estimate - £55,000 - £58,000
Lot of pics, lowering blocks ?
Apart from the steering wheel, better than new, which TBH i find off putting!
The steering wheel, while perhaps not to many people's taste, is actually a correct optional Ford Motorsport Group 1 steering wheel that was available from Boreham at the time, and quite rare.
Personally I prefer the works style Springalex deep dish wheel, if wanting a change from the standard flat spoke RS wheel.

Wood dash is not original to the car, as the 6 dial piece has external screws, and they were screwed from the back at the factory, so no visible screws.
I'm not keen on the repro stamped VIN plate either....would rather see a tatty original in place even if scratched and worn etc.
Best color combo imho, even though the green decals are wrong shade to original, but no one has been able to reproduce them to correct shade over the years.
Its got the wrong style door cars for a RS2000 as well.
Its very shiney, and a bit too clean for me, especially the underside, as they never looked like that even as they left the merry-go-round production line at Aveley!!

Be interesting to see what it goes for. Despite me being critically picky, it looks a pretty good restoration considering some of the stuff seen for almost similar money.
The original green decals as you say were a different shade and actually a slightly odd metallic green. Not many around now still with them fitted. There was a NOS set knocking around a while back. Didn’t know that about the wood being attached from the back originally, why would you go to the obvious expense of this one and the let it down with the wood…

Hoonabator

584 posts

228 months

Saturday 25th May
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Legacywr said:
What’s going on with those cutouts in the bonnet? That’s not an original bonnet.
Neater than the original style whack it with a hammer but I like the whack it with a hammer look. Like the idea that they were proud of the achievement of slotting the pinto in until they came to shutting the bonnet…. Fetch me a hammer, I’ll sort this…

vpr

3,728 posts

240 months

Saturday 25th May
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I’m almost compelled to go up there and wipe that Sheen off those tyres. Yuk

Yeah that bonnet mod looks odd. I literally thought the we just slotted and clumped

aeropilot

35,010 posts

229 months

Saturday 25th May
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Hoonabator said:
Legacywr said:
What’s going on with those cutouts in the bonnet? That’s not an original bonnet.
Neater than the original style whack it with a hammer but I like the whack it with a hammer look.
Both are correct and original.

It depended on which of the two guys that did it was on shift as to which method was applied to the bonnet.
One of them preferred the whack it with a hammer mod to the cross brace......and the other preferred the angle grinder cut slots.....both are correct. Back in the early 80's when there were a lot more original cars around, it was always amusing when a new, not yet seen car turned up at a meet, and opening the bonnet was usually to see which clearance mod the car had more than anything else laugh

Hoonabator

584 posts

228 months

Saturday 25th May
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aeropilot said:
Hoonabator said:
Legacywr said:
What’s going on with those cutouts in the bonnet? That’s not an original bonnet.
Neater than the original style whack it with a hammer but I like the whack it with a hammer look.
Both are correct and original.

It depended on which of the two guys that did it was on shift as to which method was applied to the bonnet.
One of them preferred the whack it with a hammer mod to the cross brace......and the other preferred the angle grinder cut slots.....both are correct. Back in the early 80's when there were a lot more original cars around, it was always amusing when a new, not yet seen car turned up at a meet, and opening the bonnet was usually to see which clearance mod the car had more than anything else laugh
I’ve seen them with a single angle ground cut and then whacked before.

Hoonabator

584 posts

228 months

Saturday 25th May
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Just for interest a close up of the metallic green of original decals.

aeropilot

35,010 posts

229 months

Saturday 25th May
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Hoonabator said:
aeropilot said:
Hoonabator said:
Legacywr said:
What’s going on with those cutouts in the bonnet? That’s not an original bonnet.
Neater than the original style whack it with a hammer but I like the whack it with a hammer look.
Both are correct and original.

It depended on which of the two guys that did it was on shift as to which method was applied to the bonnet.
One of them preferred the whack it with a hammer mod to the cross brace......and the other preferred the angle grinder cut slots.....both are correct. Back in the early 80's when there were a lot more original cars around, it was always amusing when a new, not yet seen car turned up at a meet, and opening the bonnet was usually to see which clearance mod the car had more than anything else laugh
I’ve seen them with a single angle ground cut and then whacked before.
Yep.
There's two definite types which are the most common on original cars, but there were a few other variations as well, but not as often seen.
Holiday cover for the usual hammer whackers probably....laugh

gt40steve

722 posts

106 months

Saturday 25th May
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aeropilot said:
Mark A S said:
Maxdecel said:
Last taxed 1989 - https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-662--...
Estimate - £55,000 - £58,000
Lot of pics, lowering blocks ?
Apart from the steering wheel, better than new, which TBH i find off putting!
The steering wheel, while perhaps not to many people's taste, is actually a correct optional Ford Motorsport Group 1 steering wheel that was available from Boreham at the time, and quite rare.
Personally I prefer the works style Springalex deep dish wheel, if wanting a change from the standard flat spoke RS wheel.

Wood dash is not original to the car, as the 6 dial piece has external screws, and they were screwed from the back at the factory, so no visible screws.
I'm not keen on the repro stamped VIN plate either....would rather see a tatty original in place even if scratched and worn etc.
Best color combo imho, even though the green decals are wrong shade to original, but no one has been able to reproduce them to correct shade over the years.
Its got the wrong style door cars for a RS2000 as well.
Its very shiney, and a bit too clean for me, especially the underside, as they never looked like that even as they left the merry-go-round production line at Aveley!!

Be interesting to see what it goes for. Despite me being critically picky, it looks a pretty good restoration considering some of the stuff seen for almost similar money.
That explains something to me about the different types of six dial instrument cluster wood.
Some charming creature stole the wood from my 1300E's dashboard circa 1984 or there abouts. (Incidentally my car was one of the early AVO finished 1300E's).

The wood was retained by visible screws that were gold or brass coloured, which blended in with the colour of the wood pretty well. The new replacement wood from Ford didn't have screw holes so I fitted it with some double sided tape and never really thought much more about it. At the time I was just relieved that it was still available !

Screwed from the back, that would have been a critical screw length, the wood isn't very thick !





Edited by gt40steve on Saturday 25th May 19:58

Hoonabator

584 posts

228 months

Wednesday 29th May
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aeropilot

35,010 posts

229 months

Wednesday 29th May
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Hoonabator said:
Only a few cars away in chassis number from my first one...!!

Can't read the build plate to see if its an original vinyl roof car. Its likely a real wood dash car, given the lack of screws on the dial trim piece, in which case someone has nicked the centre console.......which is a shame. I believe someone made a batch of repro console's though, but don't know how easy it is to get one. Getting a Kienzle clock though would be a tough ask I expect.

Mk.2 alloys though.... yuck

Maxdecel

1,308 posts

35 months

Wednesday 29th May
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From the text - Built with great attention to detail with many new OEM panels and refinished in Daytona Yellow after finding it in red with a black vinyl roof.
Were RS2's available in Daytona ?
I know Mexicos were made like this, minus the alloys.

aeropilot

35,010 posts

229 months

Wednesday 29th May
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Maxdecel said:
Were RS2's available in Daytona ?
Yes.

One of the most popular colour choices in the day for a RS2, along with Diamond White and Sebring Red.