Never been in a propeller aircraft

Never been in a propeller aircraft

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Eric Mc

122,336 posts

267 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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A kind of ducted fan.

This is a piston engined aircraft -




GliderRider

2,200 posts

83 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Eric Mc said:
A kind of ducted fan.

This is a piston engined aircraft -

Many years ago when flying a model glider on Mill Hill above Shoreham, G-FANS flew over the top of me, on its way into the airport. I have it etched in my memory that it had a propeller on one side and a fan on the other, but can't find any pictures of this configuration.

The most disconcerting propeller aircraft that I've flown in was my friend's Sky Ranger microlight with a BMW flat twin engine. It had a centrifugal clutch between the engine and the reduction gearbox, so the engine would start, but the propeller didn't go round. Only when the revs increased did the propeller start doing its stuff.

Edited by GliderRider on Wednesday 22 May 13:07

Eric Mc

122,336 posts

267 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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I saw G-FANS at a Greenham Common show in 1976 or 1977 and both engines were ducted at that time.

otolith

56,785 posts

206 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Flew Stockholm to Vaasa on a propeller plane 30 years ago. Flew Male to resort on twin otters a couple of times in the Maldives.

Bloody noisy things.

blue_haddock

3,364 posts

69 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Only propellor plane i've been in was a boeing steerman bi-plane doing acrobatics over lake rotorua in new zealand.

RosscoPCole

3,349 posts

176 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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More Channel Island prop memories. Two aircraft I did not like flying in were the Aurigny Short 360, which was a shoe box with wings. It just felt wrong flying in it as it was very loud and uncomfortable. The landings were usually pretty rough. The other was the Blue Islands Bae Jetstream 31. It was very cramped, the seats felt smaller than the Trislander and I always felt claustrophobic in it, especially if it was an evening flight in the dark. The flight crew always left the curtain to the cockpit open and looking out the front just didn't feel right, even though I liked to in a Trislander.
Give me a Trislander or even better a Dash 8.

grumpy52

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5,639 posts

168 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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The first Virgin Viscount I flew in was an ex Channel aircraft the instructions cards in the seat pockets were all marked up with Channel logos.
The seats were all leather and I do remember being able to see into the cockpit for the full flight.
All very different from flying in an RAF VC10 with the seats facing the rear ,the loudest noise was from the air system until the engines were in reverse thrust

otolith

56,785 posts

206 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Seeing the pilots in a twin otter wearing flip flops seemed a bit wrong!

hidetheelephants

25,412 posts

195 months

Thursday 23rd May
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otolith said:
Seeing the pilots in a twin otter wearing flip flops seemed a bit wrong!
I'd rather they go barefoot; flipflops are a crash waiting to happen.

GliderRider

2,200 posts

83 months

Thursday 23rd May
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otolith said:
Seeing the pilots in a twin otter wearing flip flops seemed a bit wrong!
I've flown in Wellingtons and they weren't made by Vickers.

classicaholic

1,768 posts

72 months

Thursday 23rd May
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GliderRider said:
otolith said:
Seeing the pilots in a twin otter wearing flip flops seemed a bit wrong!
I've flown in Wellingtons and they weren't made by Vickers.
I wore my steel toe cap work boots once to fly - not much feel on the pedals in the hover!

ARFBY

449 posts

135 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Rusty Old-Banger said:
Taken off in loads. Never landed in one though. Always jumped out before that part!
Beat me to it

I've taken off in:

Twin Otters, Pilatus Porters, King Airs, Skyvans and a few small Cessnas.

Also never landed in one.


CRA1G

6,610 posts

197 months

Thursday 23rd May
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I'll be flying in one these today for our regular commute to Jersey.

Eric Mc

122,336 posts

267 months

Thursday 23rd May
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grumpy52 said:
The first Virgin Viscount I flew in was an ex Channel aircraft the instructions cards in the seat pockets were all marked up with Channel logos.
The seats were all leather and I do remember being able to see into the cockpit for the full flight.
All very different from flying in an RAF VC10 with the seats facing the rear ,the loudest noise was from the air system until the engines were in reverse thrust
Are you sure? Channel Airways went out of business in 1972. Virgin acquired their Viscounts in 1987/89 and obtained them from British Air Ferries on a lease. Before BAF, these Viscounts were mainly ex- British Airways/Cambrian/Northeast/BEA aircraft. They acquired just four of them - all flown by BAF crews.



This is G-APEY which, as far as I am aware, previously served with the airlines I mentioned above. As was this one - G-AOYG



hidetheelephants

25,412 posts

195 months

Thursday 23rd May
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What routes did they fly?

Eric Mc

122,336 posts

267 months

Thursday 23rd May
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London Gatwick to Maastrict was the main one. Virgin at the time were establishing their Atlantic operations and were initially linked to KLM in Holland. Amsterdam Airport at that time was trying to claim that it was "London's Third Airport".

Regarding Channel and their Viscounts, they acquired their Viscount fleet in the mid/late 1960s, mostly from the American airline, Continental. The Channel Airways colour scheme was just a slightly revised version of the Continental scheme.








swampy442

1,481 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Ive spent more hours in a Hercules that I care to remember, and a few on A400s too

grumpy52

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5,639 posts

168 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Eric Mc said:
grumpy52 said:
The first Virgin Viscount I flew in was an ex Channel aircraft the instructions cards in the seat pockets were all marked up with Channel logos.
The seats were all leather and I do remember being able to see into the cockpit for the full flight.
All very different from flying in an RAF VC10 with the seats facing the rear ,the loudest noise was from the air system until the engines were in reverse thrust
Are you sure? Channel Airways went out of business in 1972. Virgin acquired their Viscounts in 1987/89 and obtained them from British Air Ferries on a lease. Before BAF, these Viscounts were mainly ex- British Airways/Cambrian/Northeast/BEA aircraft. They acquired just four of them - all flown by BAF crews.



This is G-APEY which, as far as I am aware, previously served with the airlines I mentioned above. As was this one - G-AOYG

Eric I made the assumption as the instruction sheets had Channel logos on them .
I do remember that the stewardess was very good looking if a little bit "chunky" .

Muddle238

3,938 posts

115 months

Thursday 23rd May
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As a passenger in the former-Flybe's Crash-8, also SAAB 340 around Shetland and Orkney, BN Islander around Orkney, Turbo Otter on floats around British Columbia and possibly a Twin Otter on floats too. Also a Cessna 185 on floats up the Pacific coast of Vancouver Island.

As a pilot I've had a go in a few things, various motorgliders, Tiger Moth, Cub, Pawnee and Seneca probably the more interesting prop types. I used to fly the DR400 as a glider tug, that was a great thing to fly.

IJWS15

1,877 posts

87 months

Thursday 23rd May
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magpie215 said:
Probably a HS 748

That was it, supposedly a thin, high efficiency wing but made for a very uncomfortable flight. I recall there were only 5 passengers on it. Much preferred the Aer Lingus F50s.