Clarkson’s Farm

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gareth h

3,595 posts

232 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Presumably even if you have permitted rights highways will get sniffy about access which could mean potential projects aren’t viable

Lucas Ayde

3,600 posts

170 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Smollet said:
If the local council hadn’t been so anti Clarkson, it may never had happened. The law of unintended consequences at work.
I suspect that its nothing really to do with Clarkson and more to do with enabling more homes to be built:

"Farmers are now allowed to convert disused agricultural buildings into homes and shops without planning permission under a new “Clarkson’s clause”.

... hopefully its not all about property developers looking to flood the countryside with more crap, expensive, housing ('executive apartments' for the countryside) under the guise of helping out hard-hit farmers.

If it genuinely helps farming be more viable as a business though, that's good.

WrekinCrew

4,661 posts

152 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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dukeboy749r said:
Read this article, this morning:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/planning-rules...

Well done! If all he had done was achieved this - what a positive impact for farmers.
Do we know if that applies in AONBs?

dukeboy749r

2,837 posts

212 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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I don't, sorry.

I merely reposted the article.

Dependant on the building (and proposed usage) you would hope for some common sense, on both sides.

Evanivitch

20,638 posts

124 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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PinkHouse said:
dukeboy749r said:
Read this article, this morning:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/planning-rules...

Well done! If all he had done was achieved this - what a positive impact for farmers.
That's incredibly good news, good to see common sense prevail once in a while
There's not much old about the buildings Clarkson converted to a farm shop...

48k

13,303 posts

150 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Evanivitch said:
PinkHouse said:
dukeboy749r said:
Read this article, this morning:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/planning-rules...

Well done! If all he had done was achieved this - what a positive impact for farmers.
That's incredibly good news, good to see common sense prevail once in a while
There's not much old about the buildings Clarkson converted to a farm shop...
Not sure what your point is? He applied for - and was granted - planning permission for the farm shop.

Evanivitch

20,638 posts

124 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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48k said:
Evanivitch said:
PinkHouse said:
dukeboy749r said:
Read this article, this morning:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/planning-rules...

Well done! If all he had done was achieved this - what a positive impact for farmers.
That's incredibly good news, good to see common sense prevail once in a while
There's not much old about the buildings Clarkson converted to a farm shop...
Not sure what your point is? He applied for - and was granted - planning permission for the farm shop.
Exactly. He applied and was granted. The article is about permitted development...

Sway

26,497 posts

196 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Evanivitch said:
48k said:
Evanivitch said:
PinkHouse said:
dukeboy749r said:
Read this article, this morning:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/planning-rules...

Well done! If all he had done was achieved this - what a positive impact for farmers.
That's incredibly good news, good to see common sense prevail once in a while
There's not much old about the buildings Clarkson converted to a farm shop...
Not sure what your point is? He applied for - and was granted - planning permission for the farm shop.
Exactly. He applied and was granted. The article is about permitted development...
Of disused farm buildings. Maybe there'll be caveats in there regarding age, so farmers can't throw a 'barn' up then six months later start renting out flats.

Evanivitch

20,638 posts

124 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Sway said:
Of disused farm buildings. Maybe there'll be caveats in there regarding age, so farmers can't throw a 'barn' up then six months later start renting out flats.
I can't see anything about disused. There's no defined period of disuse or how long they've been standing before conversion.

But that's my point, Clarkson built a lambing shed with PDR, then tried to convert to something else, which needed Planning Permission.

48k

13,303 posts

150 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Evanivitch said:
Sway said:
Of disused farm buildings. Maybe there'll be caveats in there regarding age, so farmers can't throw a 'barn' up then six months later start renting out flats.
I can't see anything about disused. There's no defined period of disuse or how long they've been standing before conversion.

But that's my point, Clarkson built a lambing shed with PDR, then tried to convert to something else, which needed Planning Permission.
No he didn't. He built the lambing shed with planning permission. ("Erection of a lambing shed and farm shop, including car parking and associated landscaping. Potential for occasional film-making")

Sway

26,497 posts

196 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Evanivitch said:
Sway said:
Of disused farm buildings. Maybe there'll be caveats in there regarding age, so farmers can't throw a 'barn' up then six months later start renting out flats.
I can't see anything about disused. There's no defined period of disuse or how long they've been standing before conversion.

But that's my point, Clarkson built a lambing shed with PDR, then tried to convert to something else, which needed Planning Permission.
Don't think the lambing shed was done under PDR?

Here's the release from DEFRA. Seems it's not as carte blanche as presented (but agree that at face value there was no definition or requirement for them to be 'disused').

https://defrafarming.blog.gov.uk/2024/05/10/change...

Evanivitch

20,638 posts

124 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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48k said:
No he didn't. He built the lambing shed with planning permission. ("Erection of a lambing shed and farm shop, including car parking and associated landscaping. Potential for occasional film-making")
Bow was that because it was never intended to be a lambing shed or because of zoning?

48k

13,303 posts

150 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Evanivitch said:
48k said:
No he didn't. He built the lambing shed with planning permission. ("Erection of a lambing shed and farm shop, including car parking and associated landscaping. Potential for occasional film-making")
Bow was that because it was never intended to be a lambing shed or because of zoning?
I think it was because he needed to get planning permission to build the lambing shed and the shop.

119

7,141 posts

38 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Little bit behind here and just caught up with Ep3 with the Christmas Tractor Rally and all I can say is…


WOW!

Unbelievable how many were there!

Wonderful sight.

Siko

2,009 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th May
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119 said:
Little bit behind here and just caught up with Ep3 with the Christmas Tractor Rally and all I can say is…


WOW!

Unbelievable how many were there!

Wonderful sight.
That was amazing. I was having dinner with a famer mate of mine and we were talking about how impressive it looked - he was gobsmacked as he does it every year in his local town and I have never seen or heard of it here before...no idea how you can miss well over a hundred highly decorated Tractors trundling around but maybe I should get my eyesight tested.

Red9zero

7,165 posts

59 months

Wednesday 29th May
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Siko said:
119 said:
Little bit behind here and just caught up with Ep3 with the Christmas Tractor Rally and all I can say is…


WOW!

Unbelievable how many were there!

Wonderful sight.
That was amazing. I was having dinner with a famer mate of mine and we were talking about how impressive it looked - he was gobsmacked as he does it every year in his local town and I have never seen or heard of it here before...no idea how you can miss well over a hundred highly decorated Tractors trundling around but maybe I should get my eyesight tested.
Local farmers near us do one too. 160+ tractors all decorated up last year. Lovely for the kids, but I wouldn't want to be stuck behind it laugh

Wills2

23,295 posts

177 months

Wednesday 29th May
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We have a tractor parade as well, hundreds of them goes past the house for seems ages and yeah you wouldn't want to be stuck behind the or get in amongst them.


Smollet

10,815 posts

192 months

Wednesday 29th May
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Wills2 said:
We have a tractor parade as well, hundreds of them goes past the house for seems ages and yeah you wouldn't want to be stuck behind the or get in amongst them.
A mate lives near Ashbourne and they have one each year.

48k

13,303 posts

150 months

Wednesday 29th May
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We have a tractor parade too in our village (about 8 miles north of Milton Keynes).

Usually get 3 or 4 in convoy hehe

Sheets Tabuer

19,163 posts

217 months

Wednesday 29th May
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We have a huge one in south Leicestershire, takes an hour to go past.