Rebus Reboot (BBC1)

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hidetheelephants

25,417 posts

195 months

Tuesday 21st May
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I give it a solid 6/10, would watch another series but in the hope that it improved. It's better than the John Hannah version.

Astacus

3,417 posts

236 months

Tuesday 21st May
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hidetheelephants said:
I give it a solid 6/10, would watch another series but in the hope that it improved. It's better than the John Hannah version.
Even John Hannah didn’t think much of the John Hannah version

bigpriest

1,631 posts

132 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Astacus said:
hidetheelephants said:
I give it a solid 6/10, would watch another series but in the hope that it improved. It's better than the John Hannah version.
Even John Hannah didn’t think much of the John Hannah version
I bet when John Hannah made that remark, he read it out as part of a long monologue in an elaborate Scottish brogue. It's in his contract smile

hidetheelephants

25,417 posts

195 months

Tuesday 21st May
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bigpriest said:
Astacus said:
hidetheelephants said:
I give it a solid 6/10, would watch another series but in the hope that it improved. It's better than the John Hannah version.
Even John Hannah didn’t think much of the John Hannah version
I bet when John Hannah made that remark, he read it out as part of a long monologue in an elaborate Scottish brogue. It's in his contract smile
I can't forgive him for "gude with fude".

Leithen

11,196 posts

269 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Riff Raff said:
I also read the books before seeing anything on screen. I suppose if there were anyone I could have imagined playing Rebus, it would have been someone like Mark McManus. Ken Stott seemed to lack the real rough edges of the character as written by Rankin. He's just a bit too sophisticated. Or maybe domesticated is a better word.
I've read all the books, but not watched any of the adaptations.

It's fascinating how characters from books can be interpreted in our own mind's eye is such different ways. For me Rebus is tall, large framed, but thin. A Scottish Richard Harris without the looks, but with a face, eyes and body carrying several lifetimes of injustice.

The actors that have played him just aren't physically imposing enough for me, although Rankin has given approval for them IIRC.

Skyedriver

18,088 posts

284 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Riff Raff said:
Ken Stott seemed to lack the real rough edges of the character as written by Rankin. He's just a bit too sophisticated. Or maybe domesticated is a better word.

Halmyre

11,323 posts

141 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Leithen said:
Riff Raff said:
I also read the books before seeing anything on screen. I suppose if there were anyone I could have imagined playing Rebus, it would have been someone like Mark McManus. Ken Stott seemed to lack the real rough edges of the character as written by Rankin. He's just a bit too sophisticated. Or maybe domesticated is a better word.
I've read all the books, but not watched any of the adaptations.

It's fascinating how characters from books can be interpreted in our own mind's eye is such different ways. For me Rebus is tall, large framed, but thin. A Scottish Richard Harris without the looks, but with a face, eyes and body carrying several lifetimes of injustice.

The actors that have played him just aren't physically imposing enough for me, although Rankin has given approval for them IIRC.
Someone once suggested Bill Paterson would be a good fit.

psi310398

9,269 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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To my mind, the bigger question is why this and still no production of any of the Laidlaw books by William McIlvanney which kicked off the Tartan Noir genre.

This Rebus is adequate but there is a rich seam of Scottish crime that is completely unmined.

Casa1862

1,074 posts

167 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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I think I missed the connection between Maggie and Cafferty, she was at the hospital in the last episode, what was the connection if any?

psi310398

9,269 posts

205 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Casa1862 said:
I think I missed the connection between Maggie and Cafferty, she was at the hospital in the last episode, what was the connection if any?
I think the implication is that she’s becoming his mistress.

Eric Mc

122,340 posts

267 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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I quite enjoyed it. It has some elements that are truer to the books than the previous TV versions. For instance, Rebus' rather sarky sense of humour comes trough more. And the interior of his rather dark and drab apartment is pretty much how I have always imagined it. I think that they should have been braver and set it in 1987 rather than the present day. Setting something in period (like with "Life on Mars") can really work.

But, so far, I am enjoying it and will watch the remaining episodes - which are all on iPlayer already.

Venisonpie

3,347 posts

84 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Eric Mc said:
I quite enjoyed it. It has some elements that are truer to the books than the previous TV versions. For instance, Rebus' rather sarky sense of humour comes trough more. And the interior of his rather dark and drab apartment is pretty much how I have always imagined it. I think that they should have been braver and set it in 1987 rather than the present day. Setting something in period (like with "Life on Mars") can really work.

But, so far, I am enjoying it and will watch the remaining episodes - which are all on iPlayer already.
Agreed however I wonder if that would be costly and inhibit the speed of production?

Eric Mc

122,340 posts

267 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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I'm sure it would. But it does seem odd seeing Rebus using a mobile so frequently. In the books he's a bit of a technophobe.

Janluke

2,607 posts

160 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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I'm enjoying it, the locations look and feel right. It's been a while since I read the books so I may be mistaken but while Rebus was a little rough and ready and not afraid to step across lines he did have a code. The new version has him doing a few things that don't quite feel in character.

hidetheelephants

25,417 posts

195 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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I think the biggest stumbling block would be the makeover reekie has had since the parliament; Edinburgh was quite seedy and rundown in 1987, much like the rest of Scotland. They'd have to do most of the location shooting in Dundee! hehe

biggbn

24,064 posts

222 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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hidetheelephants said:
I think the biggest stumbling block would be the makeover reekie has had since the parliament; Edinburgh was quite seedy and rundown in 1987, much like the rest of Scotland. They'd have to do most of the location shooting in Dundee! hehe
Oi!!! I love Dundee...

Skyedriver

18,088 posts

284 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Janluke said:
I'm enjoying it, the locations look and feel right. It's been a while since I read the books so I may be mistaken but while Rebus was a little rough and ready and not afraid to step across lines he did have a code. The new version has him doing a few things that don't quite feel in character.
Watched the first episode last night (was going to watch all together but was a boring night).
OK I'm a fan of the Ken Stott image of Rebus, having read every one of the books, the new Rebus doesn't quite fit my image of the character, he looks too scruffy/casual/lacking humour compared to my image of a detective. Interesting to see the immediate introduction of Malcolm Fox who becomes a character of his own in the books. Looking to see the development of the Shiv character. The Cafferty character not as I picture him.
Trouble is I suppose, I picture the story and characters in the era that the books are written.

Truckosaurus

11,527 posts

286 months

Thursday 23rd May
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I suspect rebooting with a younger Rebus is as good as you can get to reduce the comparisons with earlier actors.

As mentioned above, it would have been more interesting to have been a period piece set in the 80s/90s, but that is hugely more difficult/expensive to produce.

Astacus

3,417 posts

236 months

Thursday 23rd May
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psi310398 said:
To my mind, the bigger question is why this and still no production of any of the Laidlaw books by William McIlvanney which kicked off the Tartan Noir genre.

This Rebus is adequate but there is a rich seam of Scottish crime that is completely unmined.
absolutely agree on both fronts.

hidetheelephants

25,417 posts

195 months

Thursday 23rd May
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Astacus said:
psi310398 said:
To my mind, the bigger question is why this and still no production of any of the Laidlaw books by William McIlvanney which kicked off the Tartan Noir genre.

This Rebus is adequate but there is a rich seam of Scottish crime that is completely unmined.
absolutely agree on both fronts.
TV people are very simple, only one detective can come from each place and Glasgow already has Taggart. There would have to be some boxticking to get it through, like giving him a hobby like playing the accordion or a sidekick with an artificial leg or a small yappy handbag dog.