3 Body Problem - Netflix

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Silverage

2,252 posts

145 months

Thursday 4th April 2024
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I think, like The Crown, it's surprising how much of the show is actually CGI

LivLL

11,589 posts

212 months

Thursday 4th April 2024
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If the $20 million per episode is correct, it'll be the 2nd most expensive Netflix series ever after Stranger Things.

I've no idea how that budget breaks down but Forbes are predicting half a billion if they manage to squeeze it into 3 series or over $640 million if it takes 4 series to finish.

I wonder how much of the budget is wages and advertising?

rider73

3,985 posts

92 months

Thursday 4th April 2024
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certainly they didnt film in the locations they said, China Radioscope/transmitter looked to me like spanish, as did the "panama" cancel, with a few cgi'd palm trees, then a few days in NYC

not sure if they have filmed any of s2 yet as part of s1 when on location and will edit it in later, of its just all shut up shop until new deals and contracts are signed......
knowing netflix - the latter.


MandySpeeds

1 posts

15 months

Thursday 4th April 2024
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For those who liked 3BP - I can recommend "Station Eleven" on HBO.

Lucas Ayde

3,913 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th April 2024
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MandySpeeds said:
For those who liked 3BP - I can recommend "Station Eleven" on HBO.
OK, not the greatest fan of 3BP but 'Station 11' was a huge letdown for me. I went to some considerable effort to get it over p2p when I read about it on a forum somewhere but it's more of an arty-farty 'emotions' show with a vague sci-fi-ish theme.

Yes, it's set in a post-apocalyptic World but that's where the sci-fi element ends.

The OG Jester

202 posts

29 months

Thursday 4th April 2024
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Lucas Ayde said:
The Aliens aren't friendly. They were just playing along with the enviro-mentalists to help them achieve their aims. Just useful idiots, as they generally are in real life too ironically.
I interpreted that they had a change of heart about us during the Little Red Riding Hood story with The Lord? Why else would they suddenly stop talking to him?

rider73

3,985 posts

92 months

Thursday 4th April 2024
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The OG Jester said:
Lucas Ayde said:
The Aliens aren't friendly. They were just playing along with the enviro-mentalists to help them achieve their aims. Just useful idiots, as they generally are in real life too ironically.
I interpreted that they had a change of heart about us during the Little Red Riding Hood story with The Lord? Why else would they suddenly stop talking to him?
but they had already disrupted out science, sent the photon computers to earth and put in strange "eye countdowns" and killed lots of scientists who didnt want to join the cause by then............ didnt quite add up to me...... you would only do those things if they were already scared of us? if they thought they could cohabit with us, wouldnt that not really go down well if we found out (and we did) thats what they were doing? ........hmmm again doesnt add up........
and finally - wouldnt it have all come out about 20mins into any first conversations 40 years before that we lie .........................?


Clockwork Cupcake

77,908 posts

287 months

Thursday 4th April 2024
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Well in the book, the aliens are incapable of lying, and one of their human allies accidentally explains the whole concept to them, and the aliens are like "what, and you can all do that?" and the ally is "yes, but I never lie to you" and then the aliens decide that humanity as a whole cannot be trusted, not even their allies although it's been a while since I read it and this is from memory (as apparently people are annoyed that I always fact-check myself).


HRL

3,352 posts

234 months

Thursday 4th April 2024
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Think I must be in the minority as I really enjoyed it and binged it in two extended sessions.

Panama was gruesome but done well I thought. I’m hoping Amazon stump up the cash for the next two seasons.

Clockwork Cupcake

77,908 posts

287 months

Thursday 4th April 2024
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HRL said:
I’m hoping Amazon stump up the cash for the next two seasons.
I'm sure Netflix would be delighted if they did! wink

HRL

3,352 posts

234 months

Thursday 4th April 2024
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
HRL said:
I’m hoping Amazon stump up the cash for the next two seasons.
I'm sure Netflix would be delighted if they did! wink
Hahaha. Indeed, forgot it was on Netflix.

Personally, I find that Sci-Fi has to be a little bit beyond conventional science or else what’s the point?

Jimmy No Hands

5,059 posts

171 months

Friday 5th April 2024
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6 episodes in. First four I thought were absolutely fantastic. Story moved at a perfect pace, the throwback scenes to the revelution and the build-up to first contact a highlight. After the 'reveal' I think things took a little turn for me and I can't say I enjoyed the ship episode that much. Weren't they trying to preserve potential communication equipment and logs as evidence? Instead they murdered civilians and effectively destroyed absolutely everything just to showcase their new 'technology' - that was the best solution, really?

It's gone a bit pseudo science reachy (technical term) for me and the last episodes have felt a bit like filler so I am hoping it ends strong. Overall worth a watch.

coldel

9,007 posts

161 months

Friday 5th April 2024
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HRL said:
Hahaha. Indeed, forgot it was on Netflix.

Personally, I find that Sci-Fi has to be a little bit beyond conventional science or else what’s the point?
It wasnt really that though, it was the gaping plot holes, wooden acting by half the cast, and rather non-sensical things that were going on.


juliussneezer

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323 posts

17 months

Friday 5th April 2024
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LivLL said:
If the $20 million per episode is correct, it'll be the 2nd most expensive Netflix series ever after Stranger Things.

I've no idea how that budget breaks down but Forbes are predicting half a billion if they manage to squeeze it into 3 series or over $640 million if it takes 4 series to finish.

I wonder how much of the budget is wages and advertising?
I have no idea what they're spending £20m per episode on because it certainly isn't the graphics which are shocking in some scenes.

popeyewhite

23,007 posts

135 months

Friday 5th April 2024
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Finished it last night. Very good storytelling though the series seemed a bit slow towards the last couple of episodes. Foundation still the benchmark in Sci-Fi for me.

dxg

9,379 posts

275 months

Friday 5th April 2024
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popeyewhite said:
Finished it last night. Very good storytelling though the series seemed a bit slow towards the last couple of episodes. Foundation still the benchmark in Sci-Fi for me.
Absolutely. Nothing has surpassed Foundation. Even though it apparently takes similar liberties with it's source books as 3BP does, it's underlying logic is sound and the characters are and both flawed and compelling.

Really looking forward to the next series of Foundation (mainly to see what Dezmerel does) but couldn't care less about this one, sadly.

Clockwork Cupcake

77,908 posts

287 months

Saturday 6th April 2024
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dxg said:
Absolutely. Nothing has surpassed Foundation. Even though it apparently takes similar liberties with it's source books as 3BP does, it's underlying logic is sound and the characters are and both flawed and compelling.
That's all you can really ask for really

I have read (and own, on paperback) all the Foundation books actually written by Asimov (but not the continuation books after his death) and all the Robots books he penned too.

Sadly not been able to watch the Foundation TV show as it is not on a service that I have access to. I think it was Apple?

Edited to add: I didn't deliberately eschew the non-Asimov books. I read the post-Herbert Dune books. Just that I never got round to buying them and I moved away from the town where I had an amazing secondhand bookshop.

(Moss Books in Cheltenham if anyone is interested)



Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Saturday 6th April 22:10

llewop

3,789 posts

226 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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Clockwork Cupcake said:
dxg said:
Absolutely. Nothing has surpassed Foundation. Even though it apparently takes similar liberties with it's source books as 3BP does, it's underlying logic is sound and the characters are and both flawed and compelling.
That's all you can really ask for really

I have read (and own, on paperback) all the Foundation books actually written by Asimov (but not the continuation books after his death) and all the Robots books he penned too.

Sadly not been able to watch the Foundation TV show as it is not on a service that I have access to. I think it was Apple?

Edited to add: I didn't deliberately eschew the non-Asimov books. I read the post-Herbert Dune books. Just that I never got round to buying them and I moved away from the town where I had an amazing secondhand bookshop.

(Moss Books in Cheltenham if anyone is interested)



Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Saturday 6th April 22:10
I have a problem with the series Foundation as it does appear only share the title, initial concept and a few character names with the Asimov books; which I love and have read many times. I suppose the problem is the books don't lend themselves to even a modern movie-standard-miniseries as other than the 'ghost' of HS, all the characters have short spans in the story. So I've not tried to see it (yet).

I'm about 3-4 episodes into this and although the title grates a bit as it is the wrong problem, sticking with it as apparently some filming done at 'our' place so trying to catch a glimpse of how they use it.

Shaoxter

4,384 posts

139 months

Sunday 7th April 2024
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The first half of the episodes were excellent I thought, the Apple vision pro scenes looked amazing in HDR on my shiny new OLED TV smile

Fell off a cliff afterwards and I lost interest, didn't like any of the remaining main characters.

Lucas Ayde

3,913 posts

183 months

Monday 8th April 2024
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llewop said:
I have a problem with the series Foundation as it does appear only share the title, initial concept and a few character names with the Asimov books; which I love and have read many times. I suppose the problem is the books don't lend themselves to even a modern movie-standard-miniseries as other than the 'ghost' of HS, all the characters have short spans in the story. So I've not tried to see it (yet).

I'm about 3-4 episodes into this and although the title grates a bit as it is the wrong problem, sticking with it as apparently some filming done at 'our' place so trying to catch a glimpse of how they use it.
Yeah, Foundation was a real letdown.

I don't mind a few changes to the source books but they just went way off and did their own 'inspired by the characters and plot of the Foundation series' type thing. The first few episodes were very decent until they really started to diverge. Super high production quality too - what a waste.

In the case of 3BP, I don't mind that they have adapted it quite a bit. IMO the source material was full of great ideas and concepts but rather dryly and boringly written. It was a real slog. The problem is that the adaptation is pretty boring in itself and the characters although better than the original, are pretty unrelatable. It's a 'near miss' IMO.