45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)
Discussion
Byker28i said:
Nebraska GOP primary, trump still lost 17.2% to Haley
https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/...
In Maryland lost almost 20%
https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/...
9.4% to Haley in West Virginia
https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/...
It's being noted that Maryland and Nebraska were closed primaries limited to Republicans onlyhttps://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/...
In Maryland lost almost 20%
https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/...
9.4% to Haley in West Virginia
https://apnews.com/projects/election-results-2024/...
He's still losing protest votes significantly
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/15/maryland-...
Byker28i said:
But as we've been saying, Dems need to start pushing the message especially about trumps tax cuts for the rich, his quid pro quo selling US policy to the companies for personal profit...
Nancy Pelosi interview in the Leading podcast gave a very clear message on how much the tax cuts gave away and the impact on every other programme blocked by the GOP. Congressman Jamie Raskin, ranking member of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability, has written to the heads of the American Petroleum Institute (API) and eight companies: Cheniere Energy, Chesapeake Energy, Chevron, Continental Resources, EQT Corporation, ExxonMobil, Occidental Petroleum, and Venture Global LNG.
This is over trumps quid pro quo where he told industry leaders he would gut climate regulations if they raised $1 billion for his 2024 presidential campaign.
https://www.commondreams.org/tag/jamie-raskin
and pointing out only MSNBC covered the story
https://www.mediamatters.org/msnbc/national-tv-new...
This is over trumps quid pro quo where he told industry leaders he would gut climate regulations if they raised $1 billion for his 2024 presidential campaign.
https://www.commondreams.org/tag/jamie-raskin
and pointing out only MSNBC covered the story
https://www.mediamatters.org/msnbc/national-tv-new...
Blackpuddin said:
Byker28i said:
Oh Eric, we heard testimony that you were directly involved in the scheme, knew all about it, at a time you were meant to be running the company, not Daddy
Still keep pushing Daddy's talking point like his other lackeys
Yeah of course Cohen paid out $130k that he didn't need to purely out of the kindness of his heart. Still keep pushing Daddy's talking point like his other lackeys
borcy said:
I'd guess a fine. I can't see him being sent to prison. If he is found guilty and fined, does that move the needle much with swing voters?
Difficult to say. It's a convoluted thing to ask in a poll question.It expect some won't bother voting at all
Some might prefer biden on the basis that trump is convicted
Some of the less die-hard gop voters might not vote at all too.
M.
Mortarboard said:
Difficult to say. It's a convoluted thing to ask in a poll question.
It expect some won't bother voting at all
Some might prefer biden on the basis that trump is convicted
Some of the less die-hard gop voters might not vote at all too.
M.
Yes I get it's something that's hard to find out from a poll question. I think the swing voters are the main ones who matter in this. There's a bunch of people who hate trump and would never vote for him, another who think this lawfare. I wonder about those in the middle.It expect some won't bother voting at all
Some might prefer biden on the basis that trump is convicted
Some of the less die-hard gop voters might not vote at all too.
M.
borcy said:
Yes I get it's something that's hard to find out from a poll question. I think the swing voters are the main ones who matter in this. There's a bunch of people who hate trump and would never vote for him, another who think this lawfare. I wonder about those in the middle.
There's 10-20% of the gop actively voting against trump in closed primaries, if that's any indication.That's turning up, to vote against trump, in a primary. If I was the gop, I'd be terrified right now. But they appointed trump's daughter in law as head, so it looks like they've self imploded.
M.
dvs_dave said:
Blackpuddin said:
Byker28i said:
Oh Eric, we heard testimony that you were directly involved in the scheme, knew all about it, at a time you were meant to be running the company, not Daddy
Still keep pushing Daddy's talking point like his other lackeys
Yeah of course Cohen paid out $130k that he didn't need to purely out of the kindness of his heart. Still keep pushing Daddy's talking point like his other lackeys
Plus trump didn't want to pay until after the election, if he didn't win he wouldn't pay. Wanted Daniel's to take a trump IOU which she rightly refused, so Cohen stepped up again for trump.
Weird with all the testimony you're still trying to push trump lies about that...
Try Hope Hicks testimony as well about Cohen
$130k, doubled repayment for the tax payable plus $60k bonus... let's not forget. All signed off by trump. Cheques to the wh for signing, when he claimed he divested trump org...
Yet here you are still believing the conmans lies...
Biden has accepted a debate on June 27th
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/15/politics/joe-biden-...
Calling donny's bluff now.
M.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/15/politics/joe-biden-...
Calling donny's bluff now.
M.
Mortarboard said:
Biden has accepted a debate on June 27th
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/15/politics/joe-biden-...
Calling donny's bluff now.
M.
Dark Brandonhttps://www.cnn.com/2024/05/15/politics/joe-biden-...
Calling donny's bluff now.
M.
Biden doesn’t mince words: “donald trump lost two debates to me in 2020, & since then, he hasn’t shown up for a debate. Now he is acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal. I’ll even do it twice...I hear you’re free on Wednesdays.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790732370770862348
Biden Campaign even have a t-shirt ready and on sale
Should probably have mentioned trump won't testify either
trumps ranted in reply on TS, claiming
"Crooked Joe Biden is the WORST debater I have ever faced - He can’t put two sentences together! Crooked is also the WORST President in the history of the United States, by far."
lots more ranting finishing with
"I am Ready and Willing to Debate Crooked Joe at the two proposed times in June and September."
except he won't, he'll claim his lawyers won't let im, or something, just like his trial testimonies he hasn't done. Just like his claims he stormed out of court, which he hasn't done...
"Crooked Joe Biden is the WORST debater I have ever faced - He can’t put two sentences together! Crooked is also the WORST President in the history of the United States, by far."
lots more ranting finishing with
"I am Ready and Willing to Debate Crooked Joe at the two proposed times in June and September."
except he won't, he'll claim his lawyers won't let im, or something, just like his trial testimonies he hasn't done. Just like his claims he stormed out of court, which he hasn't done...
More GOP Bull.. Johnson was the Chairman of the Republican Study Committee just three years ago
Reporter: We’ve heard a lot about Democrats supporting defund the police. The Republican Study Committee budget cuts the federal grant program that local departments use to hire officers. How is that not proposing to defund the police?
Johnson: I haven’t looked into the details of the budget. They also plus up other areas
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790756254899716125
Also somehow claims it's Jack Smiths fault Cannon is slow walking the stolen classified case to help trump.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790754542755463250
The things you have to do to reward trump for keeping you in a job...
Reporter: We’ve heard a lot about Democrats supporting defund the police. The Republican Study Committee budget cuts the federal grant program that local departments use to hire officers. How is that not proposing to defund the police?
Johnson: I haven’t looked into the details of the budget. They also plus up other areas
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790756254899716125
Also somehow claims it's Jack Smiths fault Cannon is slow walking the stolen classified case to help trump.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790754542755463250
The things you have to do to reward trump for keeping you in a job...
Edited by Byker28i on Wednesday 15th May 16:15
Swalwell on Johnson repeating trump lies outside his criminal trial: "We voted for Mike Johnson to keep his job as speaker, not to lead a law firm of Johnson, Mills, Donalds, and Burgum."
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790757401395687787
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790757401395687787
Byker28i said:
trumps ranted in reply on TS, claiming
"Crooked Joe Biden is the WORST debater I have ever faced - He can’t put two sentences together! Crooked is also the WORST President in the history of the United States, by far."
lots more ranting finishing with
"I am Ready and Willing to Debate Crooked Joe at the two proposed times in June and September."
except he won't, he'll claim his lawyers won't let im, or something, just like his trial testimonies he hasn't done. Just like his claims he stormed out of court, which he hasn't done...
It might be the first debate ever where both sides lose. "Crooked Joe Biden is the WORST debater I have ever faced - He can’t put two sentences together! Crooked is also the WORST President in the history of the United States, by far."
lots more ranting finishing with
"I am Ready and Willing to Debate Crooked Joe at the two proposed times in June and September."
except he won't, he'll claim his lawyers won't let im, or something, just like his trial testimonies he hasn't done. Just like his claims he stormed out of court, which he hasn't done...
Joe’s not exactly fast talking when I’ve caught a clip of him, and he is looking old now. His advantage is that Trump is an idiot, but he’s also a noisy idiot who doesn’t let facts stand in the way of making his point…Trumps supporters will see his performance in a debate as a victory, regardless of how much fact checking goes on later (or in parallel) to show he’s making it all up. Those who are undecided might well be swayed by some table thumping rhetoric from Trump.
I can’t see Joe crushing him in a debate without some VERY strong moderation to keep Trump quiet when it’s not his turn.
Byker28i said:
trumps ranted in reply on TS, claiming
"Crooked Joe Biden is the WORST debater I have ever faced - He can’t put two sentences together! Crooked is also the WORST President in the history of the United States, by far."
lots more ranting finishing with
"I am Ready and Willing to Debate Crooked Joe at the two proposed times in June and September."
except he won't, he'll claim his lawyers won't let im, or something, just like his trial testimonies he hasn't done. Just like his claims he stormed out of court, which he hasn't done...
Will the Prison Governor allow him out to debate?"Crooked Joe Biden is the WORST debater I have ever faced - He can’t put two sentences together! Crooked is also the WORST President in the history of the United States, by far."
lots more ranting finishing with
"I am Ready and Willing to Debate Crooked Joe at the two proposed times in June and September."
except he won't, he'll claim his lawyers won't let im, or something, just like his trial testimonies he hasn't done. Just like his claims he stormed out of court, which he hasn't done...
Byker28i said:
Dark Brandon
Biden doesn’t mince words: “donald trump lost two debates to me in 2020, & since then, he hasn’t shown up for a debate. Now he is acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal. I’ll even do it twice...I hear you’re free on Wednesdays.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790732370770862348
Is that video even real? Video production looks good but the sound is horrendous for background noise, and it's five videos stitched together taken from different distances away, or at least zoomed in during post-production.Biden doesn’t mince words: “donald trump lost two debates to me in 2020, & since then, he hasn’t shown up for a debate. Now he is acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal. I’ll even do it twice...I hear you’re free on Wednesdays.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790732370770862348
esit: yep seems to be, apparently that’s just the way the kids cut things together these days…
Edited by ScotHill on Wednesday 15th May 16:59
DanL said:
It might be the first debate ever where both sides lose. Joe’s not exactly fast talking when I’ve caught a clip of him, and he is looking old now. His advantage is that Trump is an idiot, but he’s also a noisy idiot who doesn’t let facts stand in the way of making his point…
Trumps supporters will see his performance in a debate as a victory, regardless of how much fact checking goes on later (or in parallel) to show he’s making it all up. Those who are undecided might well be swayed by some table thumping rhetoric from Trump.
I can’t see Joe crushing him in a debate without some VERY strong moderation to keep Trump quiet when it’s not his turn.
It’s a long time since Trumps frankly excellent performance during the various 2016 debates. Joe’s not exactly fast talking when I’ve caught a clip of him, and he is looking old now. His advantage is that Trump is an idiot, but he’s also a noisy idiot who doesn’t let facts stand in the way of making his point…Trumps supporters will see his performance in a debate as a victory, regardless of how much fact checking goes on later (or in parallel) to show he’s making it all up. Those who are undecided might well be swayed by some table thumping rhetoric from Trump.
I can’t see Joe crushing him in a debate without some VERY strong moderation to keep Trump quiet when it’s not his turn.
Biden did ok in 2020, realistically it wouldn’t be a debate anyway. Biden would stick to his talking points and try to avoid getting drawn in.
ScotHill said:
Byker28i said:
Dark Brandon
Biden doesn’t mince words: “donald trump lost two debates to me in 2020, & since then, he hasn’t shown up for a debate. Now he is acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal. I’ll even do it twice...I hear you’re free on Wednesdays.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790732370770862348
Is that video even real? Video production looks good but the sound is horrendous for background noise, and it's five videos stitched together taken from different distances away, or at least zoomed in during post-production.Biden doesn’t mince words: “donald trump lost two debates to me in 2020, & since then, he hasn’t shown up for a debate. Now he is acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal. I’ll even do it twice...I hear you’re free on Wednesdays.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1790732370770862348
esit: yep seems to be, apparently that’s just the way the kids cut things together these days…
Edited by ScotHill on Wednesday 15th May 16:59
Is there an argument to be made for trump and Biden, in the run up to the debates, to do traveller style "call out" videos?
Asking for a friend....
https://youtu.be/43RetqOa8Bc?si=4QsA4jkRuefHQRip
M.
Edited by Mortarboard on Wednesday 15th May 18:41
DanL said:
Byker28i said:
trumps ranted in reply on TS, claiming
"Crooked Joe Biden is the WORST debater I have ever faced - He can’t put two sentences together! Crooked is also the WORST President in the history of the United States, by far."
lots more ranting finishing with
"I am Ready and Willing to Debate Crooked Joe at the two proposed times in June and September."
except he won't, he'll claim his lawyers won't let im, or something, just like his trial testimonies he hasn't done. Just like his claims he stormed out of court, which he hasn't done...
It might be the first debate ever where both sides lose. "Crooked Joe Biden is the WORST debater I have ever faced - He can’t put two sentences together! Crooked is also the WORST President in the history of the United States, by far."
lots more ranting finishing with
"I am Ready and Willing to Debate Crooked Joe at the two proposed times in June and September."
except he won't, he'll claim his lawyers won't let im, or something, just like his trial testimonies he hasn't done. Just like his claims he stormed out of court, which he hasn't done...
Joe’s not exactly fast talking when I’ve caught a clip of him, and he is looking old now. His advantage is that Trump is an idiot, but he’s also a noisy idiot who doesn’t let facts stand in the way of making his point…Trumps supporters will see his performance in a debate as a victory, regardless of how much fact checking goes on later (or in parallel) to show he’s making it all up. Those who are undecided might well be swayed by some table thumping rhetoric from Trump.
I can’t see Joe crushing him in a debate without some VERY strong moderation to keep Trump quiet when it’s not his turn.
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