Another dog attack

Why would you keep one of these things when you know what we know? I am a firm believer in bad owners but with the stats, surely this also has to be considered a bad breed and not fit to be kept in the home.

I suppose they are a bit like white audis and landrovers, they are an essential accessory for a certain type.

I followed the link to the BBC article and there was a link to a slightly older article about a farmer that had shot two XLs that had attacked his sheep. Just two of them had killed 24 and injured 46! That is pretty scary. I wouldn’t want to have to deal with an out of control XL (without a shotgun in my hands!)

Most aggressive dogs in the world - according to Spot Pet Insurance:

1) The Chihuahua
2) Dachshund

And then they start to get bigger.

Can't say I've heard of an owner being killed by a Chihuahua but they do appear to be feisty little buggers.

Aggression is one thing, ability is another.

My mate, riding his bike, was "attacked" by a Corgi. It didn't hurt, but what worried him was that the St Bernard that was with the Corgi then decided it had also got the hump with him. He ended up using the bike as a 'gate' to keep the bigger dog at arm's length. Owner was clueless. My mate was not too bothhered but advisedd the guy not everyone would take that view and he might think a bit more about keeping them under control or on a lead.

The aggression is plenty, regardless of ability, especially when combined with a clueless f**kwit of an owner.

A grown man with a mountain bike to put between him and a big dog might be fine, but a nasty little sh*t of a small dog will still do plenty of damage to an inquisitive child, for example.

Bluntly, any dog which randomly attacks people wants putting down, it’s that simple. Might sound harsh, but the plethora of excuses “it’s because you’re on a bike/running/looked at it funny” etc etc are meaningless and have zero value; the next victim might well be a little kid etc. Yes it’s distressing for the owner but there really does need to be a very clear expectation and social standard that a dog will be suitably trained and under control so as not to be a risk of harm to others, surely that’s basic dog owning stuff? If you choose not to uphold that standard then you risk losing the dog, as well as whatever other punishments might be due if it lets rip at some poor sod for no reason.

Easy way to prevent that, keep your cat to yourself

It isnt just council, plenty of middle class folk with badly beghved trophy dogs or just Labradoodles but the "Council" types tend to gravitate to the bigger and scarier breeds, maybe for protection if they live in a rough area or just to project an image of being hard. Maybe its to show some power when you dont have any in your life ?

But, Labradoodle deaths are pretty low I expect, XL Bully (Clues in the name folks...) XL Bully attacks are fairly frequent yet people still want one.

There is a mentality that "It wont happen to me", something that goes beyond dogs to cars, motorbikes, guns, drugs, alcohol and any other activity, possession or practice that can cause harm to yourself or others, thick folk have this mentality or bury it, such is the desire to give off that image, those of us with half a brain dont want a dangerous, tooth laden 200 pound animal in the house as if it does go badly, there is fk all I can do to stop it. The propensity may not be there, but the capability never changes, it can kill you quite easily, my dog weighs 8 kilos and unless he knocks me over on the stairs that is unlikely, he is easy to subdue if I ever needed to.

And many will be fine, soft, loving, good with kids, loyal and whatever, how could that possibly do me any harm ? like looking at your shiny GSXR1000, or your immaculate Glock, your 700 bhp M3, that nice cold pint on a sunny afternoon ? All are wonderful until things go awry, you cant remove all danger from life, that would be boring but maybe look at yourself, your capabilities, your means, your situation and make informed choices.

Am sure people would have pet Grizzly bears given half a chance, dogs are ace, but just get ones that cant kill you maybe ?

Limited sympathy for anyone who gets one now, its a banned breed for a reason, does this threead need to pop up again once a month as someone gets killed by their (or someone elses) pet ?

This sort of thing annoys me.

"Breed-specific bans do not work and are unfair on responsible dog owners and their pets, according to the Dog Control Coalition."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66775985

Responsible dog owners don't buy breeds that are easily capable of killing a fully grown adult.

It's a bit like saying people should be able to have lions as pets because it's just a bigger cat.

My wife won't walk along a street in our town now because a householder let's his XL bully run loose in the front garden unmuzzled. Behind a gate. So legal I think as normal a public place. Same area two XL Bullys killed a dog 100 yards from my house.

Dogs, not kids

It's all so transparent. If XLs are just lovable cuddly furbabies why don't you see them walked by yummy mummies with a couple of toddlers, retrieving sticks from the sea amidst happy happy families or on long country walks with all the labs, spaniels and other normal dogs? Hardly anyone wants themm apart from a certain section of society. They are a relatively cheap accessory which bolsters the owner's sense of status.

Of course there are exceptions. About three.