The 'Bladerunners' are right
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No, I’m clearly not.
I’m just surprised to see someone say that this bombing should have him rethinking it.
It’s hilarious that some can’t see the double standard of spending time moaning about JSO (never blown anything up) while saying that Khan should rethink policy because of terrorism.
I’m just surprised to see someone say that this bombing should have him rethinking it.
It’s hilarious that some can’t see the double standard of spending time moaning about JSO (never blown anything up) while saying that Khan should rethink policy because of terrorism.
Definitely some interesting venn diagrams of people who get really angry at any sort of protest about climate or environment and want skulls cracked and people locked up but think the people are heroes and are dancing on the head of a pin over why this isn't dangerous violent thuggery.
Even though I dont agree with the ULEZ extension, if this turns out to be what it looks like I think it's a shame. It undermines other protest and I genuinely hope Kahn doesn't give in to stuff like this.
And as for him "extorting" money I dont see how this is worse than myriad things that have always gone on in central and local government. Especially in the last 5 years.
And as for him "extorting" money I dont see how this is worse than myriad things that have always gone on in central and local government. Especially in the last 5 years.
I don't condone using explosives on ulez cameras (for what should be obvious reasons) but I think this does show that people will only be pushed so far and that politicians are pushing (some) people to their limits and there is now push back.
With the cameras being cut down etc and now this, it should be a wake of call for politicians, from MPs to local councillors that all people have a breaking point. Even the docile British public. Fortunately most won't bomb ulez cameras etc.
ITs something they should think about seriously as the overruling of public opinion on issues like this smacks of a ' beatings will continue until moral improves' approach to governance.
With the cameras being cut down etc and now this, it should be a wake of call for politicians, from MPs to local councillors that all people have a breaking point. Even the docile British public. Fortunately most won't bomb ulez cameras etc.
ITs something they should think about seriously as the overruling of public opinion on issues like this smacks of a ' beatings will continue until moral improves' approach to governance.
It's really, really simple. You can see it on any thread. If you agree with the principles or politics or religion behind it, violence and law breaking is right, those practicing it are plucky freedom fighters standing up to faceless monoliths. If you disagree with the principles, or politics, or religion behind the violence or law breaking those practicing it are terrorists, zealots and crackpots. Simple enough?
neilr said:
I don't condone using explosives on ulez cameras (for what should be obvious reasons) but I think this does show that people will only be pushed so far and that politicians are pushing (some) people to their limits and there is now push back.
With the cameras being cut down etc and now this, it should be a wake of call for politicians, from MPs to local councillors that all people have a breaking point. Even the docile British public. Fortunately most won't bomb ulez cameras etc.
ITs something they should think about seriously as the overruling of public opinion on issues like this smacks of a ' beatings will continue until moral improves' approach to governance.
On public opinion though I'd say that the majority of Londoners are getting on with their lives largely unaffected by ULEZ.With the cameras being cut down etc and now this, it should be a wake of call for politicians, from MPs to local councillors that all people have a breaking point. Even the docile British public. Fortunately most won't bomb ulez cameras etc.
ITs something they should think about seriously as the overruling of public opinion on issues like this smacks of a ' beatings will continue until moral improves' approach to governance.
Saw this on another site
I WANT TO ARRANGE A NETWORK CONNECTING EVERYONE WRONGFULLY ARRESTED IN REGARDS TO ULEZ.
IM A JOURNALIST WHO WAS ARRESTED FOR FILMING AND THEY ABUSED THEIR POWER TO TRY AND BULLY ME INTO SUBMISSION.
POLICE SEIZED ITEMS THAT CANT HOLD EVIDENTIAL VALUE, SUCH AS MY PRESS CARD, CAMERAS THAT DONT EVEN HAVE A MEMORY CARD IN, SPARE LENSES, ETC... THEY ALSO SEIZED PROTECTED JOURNALISTIC MATERIAL (THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SEIZE UNDER PACE REGULATIONS )
I HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATING AND AM NOTICING PATTERNS OF ABUSE WITHIN THE METROPOLITAN POLICE AND I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW THIS THROUGH FOR A POTENTIAL PUBLICATION
I THINK IF WE ALL CONNECTED AND SHARE OUR STORIES WE WILL FIND THAT THE ABUSIVE NATURE OF THE POLICE IN ENFORCEMENT OF ULEZ RELATED MATTERS IS SYSTEMIC...
MY OPINION IS THAT THEY ARE USING LEGISLATION TO BULLY PROTESTORS OR PLACING CONDITIONS UPON THEM PREVENTING PROTEST.
WE NEED TO STAND TOGETHER AND SPEAK UP AS A GROUP TO STAND ANY CHANCE OF WINNING.... IF YOU HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND WISH TO COMPLAIN YOU CAN FILE A REPORT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS OR THE IOPC.
AND IF THEY HAVE SIEZED YOUR ITEMS, REMEMBER YOU CAN APPLY TO A MAGISTRATE TO HAVE THEM RETURNED.
BEST ADVICE IF YOU ARE AFFECTED IS SPEAK UP SO THEY CANT BRUSH IT UNDER THE CARPET.. AND GET A SOLICITOR OF YOUR CHOOSING TO REPRESENT YOU!
I WILL SHARE MY COMPLAINT WILLINGLY WITH ANY MEDIA ORGANISATION OR NEWS OUTLET LOOKING TO COVER THE STORY, just pm me 🙂
Looks like plod have been given instructions to side with non compliant security officers now (IF THIS IS TRUE)
I WANT TO ARRANGE A NETWORK CONNECTING EVERYONE WRONGFULLY ARRESTED IN REGARDS TO ULEZ.
IM A JOURNALIST WHO WAS ARRESTED FOR FILMING AND THEY ABUSED THEIR POWER TO TRY AND BULLY ME INTO SUBMISSION.
POLICE SEIZED ITEMS THAT CANT HOLD EVIDENTIAL VALUE, SUCH AS MY PRESS CARD, CAMERAS THAT DONT EVEN HAVE A MEMORY CARD IN, SPARE LENSES, ETC... THEY ALSO SEIZED PROTECTED JOURNALISTIC MATERIAL (THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SEIZE UNDER PACE REGULATIONS )
I HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATING AND AM NOTICING PATTERNS OF ABUSE WITHIN THE METROPOLITAN POLICE AND I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW THIS THROUGH FOR A POTENTIAL PUBLICATION
I THINK IF WE ALL CONNECTED AND SHARE OUR STORIES WE WILL FIND THAT THE ABUSIVE NATURE OF THE POLICE IN ENFORCEMENT OF ULEZ RELATED MATTERS IS SYSTEMIC...
MY OPINION IS THAT THEY ARE USING LEGISLATION TO BULLY PROTESTORS OR PLACING CONDITIONS UPON THEM PREVENTING PROTEST.
WE NEED TO STAND TOGETHER AND SPEAK UP AS A GROUP TO STAND ANY CHANCE OF WINNING.... IF YOU HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND WISH TO COMPLAIN YOU CAN FILE A REPORT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS OR THE IOPC.
AND IF THEY HAVE SIEZED YOUR ITEMS, REMEMBER YOU CAN APPLY TO A MAGISTRATE TO HAVE THEM RETURNED.
BEST ADVICE IF YOU ARE AFFECTED IS SPEAK UP SO THEY CANT BRUSH IT UNDER THE CARPET.. AND GET A SOLICITOR OF YOUR CHOOSING TO REPRESENT YOU!
I WILL SHARE MY COMPLAINT WILLINGLY WITH ANY MEDIA ORGANISATION OR NEWS OUTLET LOOKING TO COVER THE STORY, just pm me 🙂
- ALL VIEWS AND ACTIONS ARE MY OWN AND DO NOT REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF ANY ORGANISATION I WRITE OR WORK FOR**
Looks like plod have been given instructions to side with non compliant security officers now (IF THIS IS TRUE)
Billy_Rosewood said:
Randy Winkman said:
On public opinion though I'd say that the majority of Londoners are getting on with their lives largely unaffected by ULEZ.
Does this definitively mean nothing is wrong? Randy Winkman said:
neilr said:
I don't condone using explosives on ulez cameras (for what should be obvious reasons) but I think this does show that people will only be pushed so far and that politicians are pushing (some) people to their limits and there is now push back.
With the cameras being cut down etc and now this, it should be a wake of call for politicians, from MPs to local councillors that all people have a breaking point. Even the docile British public. Fortunately most won't bomb ulez cameras etc.
ITs something they should think about seriously as the overruling of public opinion on issues like this smacks of a ' beatings will continue until moral improves' approach to governance.
On public opinion though I'd say that the majority of Londoners are getting on with their lives largely unaffected by ULEZ.With the cameras being cut down etc and now this, it should be a wake of call for politicians, from MPs to local councillors that all people have a breaking point. Even the docile British public. Fortunately most won't bomb ulez cameras etc.
ITs something they should think about seriously as the overruling of public opinion on issues like this smacks of a ' beatings will continue until moral improves' approach to governance.
Randy Winkman said:
No - and I've said loads of times I dont agree with ULEZ expansion. I'm just giving a view that I dont think that most people in London feel strongly about it.
There's no need to say, it's obvious from your posts. Clear as mud.It's not about 'London' it's about those impacted most by the extension, those in the new zone.
turbobloke said:
Randy Winkman said:
neilr said:
I don't condone using explosives on ulez cameras (for what should be obvious reasons) but I think this does show that people will only be pushed so far and that politicians are pushing (some) people to their limits and there is now push back.
With the cameras being cut down etc and now this, it should be a wake of call for politicians, from MPs to local councillors that all people have a breaking point. Even the docile British public. Fortunately most won't bomb ulez cameras etc.
ITs something they should think about seriously as the overruling of public opinion on issues like this smacks of a ' beatings will continue until moral improves' approach to governance.
On public opinion though I'd say that the majority of Londoners are getting on with their lives largely unaffected by ULEZ.With the cameras being cut down etc and now this, it should be a wake of call for politicians, from MPs to local councillors that all people have a breaking point. Even the docile British public. Fortunately most won't bomb ulez cameras etc.
ITs something they should think about seriously as the overruling of public opinion on issues like this smacks of a ' beatings will continue until moral improves' approach to governance.
hstewie said:
Wouldn’t surprise me if Khans employees blew it up themselves to turn the general public against the opposition. The Police have already arrested and put future restrictions on the main TikTok spokesperson because of his high profile against ULEZ.
Funny how Police turn up en mass literally within minutes, to mrs miggins holding a placard in front of a van camera, because the ULEZ van security have called them.
Funny how Police turn up en mass literally within minutes, to mrs miggins holding a placard in front of a van camera, because the ULEZ van security have called them.
Edited by markbigears on Saturday 9th December 21:29
turbobloke said:
Randy Winkman said:
No - and I've said loads of times I dont agree with ULEZ expansion. I'm just giving a view that I dont think that most people in London feel strongly about it.
There's no need to say, it's obvious from your posts. Clear as mud.It's not about 'London' it's about those impacted most by the extension, those in the new zone.
It’s about a democratically elected Mayor implementing a policy that is legal, non-discriminatory and within his remit as given by central government.
It’s no different to the UK govt implementing a policy that impacts one region more than another.
Those affected have all the powers of democracy and freedom open to them to mitigate their impact - LEGALLY.
oyster said:
turbobloke said:
Randy Winkman said:
No - and I've said loads of times I dont agree with ULEZ expansion. I'm just giving a view that I dont think that most people in London feel strongly about it.
There's no need to say, it's obvious from your posts. Clear as mud.It's not about 'London' it's about those impacted most by the extension, those in the new zone.
It’s about a democratically elected Mayor implementing a policy that is legal, non-discriminatory and within his remit as given by central government.
It’s no different to the UK govt implementing a policy that impacts one region more than another.
Those affected have all the powers of democracy and freedom open to them to mitigate their impact - LEGALLY.
And just to clarify, when I say "London" I mean the whole of the new zone. i.e. the whole of London.markbigears said:
Wouldn’t surprise me if Khans employees blew it up themselves to turn the general public against the opposition. The Police have already arrested and put future restrictions on the main TikTok spokesperson because of his high profile against ULEZ.
Funny how Police turn up en mass literally within minutes, to mrs miggins holding a placard in front of a van camera, because the ULEZ van security have called them.
Yeah, that sounds about right.....jeez Funny how Police turn up en mass literally within minutes, to mrs miggins holding a placard in front of a van camera, because the ULEZ van security have called them.
Edited by markbigears on Saturday 9th December 21:29
markbigears said:
Wouldn’t surprise me if Khans employees blew it up themselves to turn the general public against the opposition. The Police have already arrested and put future restrictions on the main TikTok spokesperson because of his high profile against ULEZ.
Funny how Police turn up en mass literally within minutes, to mrs miggins holding a placard in front of a van camera, because the ULEZ van security have called them.
Do you think the "Bladerunners" aren't real people either?Funny how Police turn up en mass literally within minutes, to mrs miggins holding a placard in front of a van camera, because the ULEZ van security have called them.
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