Teacher guilty of sex with two boys
Discussion
Rufus Stone said:
markh1973 said:
Given your definitive statement would be interested to hear how having a child at 15 didn't ruin your life.
Didn't Angela Rayner have a child at 15, or thereabouts?It's all down to what you chose to make of your life.
Rufus Stone said:
otolith said:
Spending his teens and twenties as a single father. That is a life changing consequence.
What makes you think he will remain single?The attitude of some people to parenthood is strange.
mwstewart said:
Rufus Stone said:
otolith said:
Spending his teens and twenties as a single father. That is a life changing consequence.
What makes you think he will remain single?The attitude of some people to parenthood is strange.
‘Statutory rape’ isn’t a thing in England/Wales.
Also, a woman can’t commit the physical act of rape in England/Wales as the legislation (s1, Sexual Offences Act 2003) specifically refers to penetration of vagina/anus/mouth with a penis. Obviously I’m opening up the whole debate about trans women pre gender reassignment surgery still having a penis. Another of PH’s favourite topics.
(With the caveat to the above that this woman was convicted of rape, but that’s more an aid/abet/procure/cause/incite type conviction than the actual act itself. https://www.cps.gov.uk/mersey-cheshire/news/woman-... )
One of my work hats is that I’m a specialist victim/ witness interviewer, for vulnerable/intimidated victims/witnesses and I’ve video interviewed plenty of children who were victims of some horrendous grooming/sexual assaults. They often don’t think they’re victims, but (sweeping generalisation here) these are often children from deprived backgrounds with terribly broken family units, so they see anyone paying them a bit of attention as a good thing, when to any objective observer they’re clearly victims.
Some of the “not justifications” on this thread are terribly depressing. It’s a shame some of those posters can’t see the testimony of these victims, who sometimes do return repeatedly, because any bit of “love” they’re shown is better than nothing. These kids end up permanently damaged, psychologically and often physically. They generally lack the emotional/social maturity to make good choices, even when they’re over the age of consent.
Also, a woman can’t commit the physical act of rape in England/Wales as the legislation (s1, Sexual Offences Act 2003) specifically refers to penetration of vagina/anus/mouth with a penis. Obviously I’m opening up the whole debate about trans women pre gender reassignment surgery still having a penis. Another of PH’s favourite topics.
(With the caveat to the above that this woman was convicted of rape, but that’s more an aid/abet/procure/cause/incite type conviction than the actual act itself. https://www.cps.gov.uk/mersey-cheshire/news/woman-... )
One of my work hats is that I’m a specialist victim/ witness interviewer, for vulnerable/intimidated victims/witnesses and I’ve video interviewed plenty of children who were victims of some horrendous grooming/sexual assaults. They often don’t think they’re victims, but (sweeping generalisation here) these are often children from deprived backgrounds with terribly broken family units, so they see anyone paying them a bit of attention as a good thing, when to any objective observer they’re clearly victims.
Some of the “not justifications” on this thread are terribly depressing. It’s a shame some of those posters can’t see the testimony of these victims, who sometimes do return repeatedly, because any bit of “love” they’re shown is better than nothing. These kids end up permanently damaged, psychologically and often physically. They generally lack the emotional/social maturity to make good choices, even when they’re over the age of consent.
Dibble said:
‘Statutory rape’ isn’t a thing in England/Wales.
Also, a woman can’t commit the physical act of rape in England/Wales as the legislation (s1, Sexual Offences Act 2003) specifically refers to penetration of vagina/anus/mouth with a penis. Obviously I’m opening up the whole debate about trans women pre gender reassignment surgery still having a penis. Another of PH’s favourite topics.
(With the caveat to the above that this woman was convicted of rape, but that’s more an aid/abet/procure/cause/incite type conviction than the actual act itself. https://www.cps.gov.uk/mersey-cheshire/news/woman-... )
One of my work hats is that I’m a specialist victim/ witness interviewer, for vulnerable/intimidated victims/witnesses and I’ve video interviewed plenty of children who were victims of some horrendous grooming/sexual assaults. They often don’t think they’re victims, but (sweeping generalisation here) these are often children from deprived backgrounds with terribly broken family units, so they see anyone paying them a bit of attention as a good thing, when to any objective observer they’re clearly victims.
Some of the “not justifications” on this thread are terribly depressing. It’s a shame some of those posters can’t see the testimony of these victims, who sometimes do return repeatedly, because any bit of “love” they’re shown is better than nothing. These kids end up permanently damaged, psychologically and often physically. They generally lack the emotional/social maturity to make good choices, even when they’re over the age of consent.
Not a job I could do, I would find it incredibly hard not to take my work home with me (mentally speaking) and have it make me depressed/angry/feel helpless.Also, a woman can’t commit the physical act of rape in England/Wales as the legislation (s1, Sexual Offences Act 2003) specifically refers to penetration of vagina/anus/mouth with a penis. Obviously I’m opening up the whole debate about trans women pre gender reassignment surgery still having a penis. Another of PH’s favourite topics.
(With the caveat to the above that this woman was convicted of rape, but that’s more an aid/abet/procure/cause/incite type conviction than the actual act itself. https://www.cps.gov.uk/mersey-cheshire/news/woman-... )
One of my work hats is that I’m a specialist victim/ witness interviewer, for vulnerable/intimidated victims/witnesses and I’ve video interviewed plenty of children who were victims of some horrendous grooming/sexual assaults. They often don’t think they’re victims, but (sweeping generalisation here) these are often children from deprived backgrounds with terribly broken family units, so they see anyone paying them a bit of attention as a good thing, when to any objective observer they’re clearly victims.
Some of the “not justifications” on this thread are terribly depressing. It’s a shame some of those posters can’t see the testimony of these victims, who sometimes do return repeatedly, because any bit of “love” they’re shown is better than nothing. These kids end up permanently damaged, psychologically and often physically. They generally lack the emotional/social maturity to make good choices, even when they’re over the age of consent.
Respect is due to anyone who can deal with this sort of thing.
mwstewart said:
Children are not automatically an amazing, happy experience for all; this is one of the common misconceptions about parenthood, thanks in part to advertising/media painting an instantly happy family narrative, and also a stigma attached to speaking negativity of one's own parenting experience. Add in a single, juvenile parent to the mix who is yet to figure out his own life and place in the world/social structure, and it's a recipe for a very difficult and unhappy time.
True. It's the claim that his life has been ruined and he will be single for the next 15 years that I find strange.Rufus Stone said:
otolith said:
Spending his teens and twenties as a single father. That is a life changing consequence.
What makes you think he will remain single?The attitude of some people to parenthood is strange.
Leptons said:
otolith said:
He’s going to be paying child support until his 30’s.
Statement is beyond thick.https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceUK/comments/16...
otolith said:
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