Tax dodging of overseas rental income the UAE
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Digga said:
fly by wire said:
dvs_dave said:
Yup, Dubai is a sunny place for shady people.
I was there pre-financial crisis, so before the complete chavification of the place. It was actually a decent place to be expatting back then. Not now though. Ghastly overpriced, underpaid Vegas imitation for wannabes.
Plus it's full of dodgy Russians.I was there pre-financial crisis, so before the complete chavification of the place. It was actually a decent place to be expatting back then. Not now though. Ghastly overpriced, underpaid Vegas imitation for wannabes.
The russians I came across were what we would describe as 'import and export wheeler/dealers', The russian equivalent of Arthur Daley.
fly by wire said:
Digga said:
fly by wire said:
dvs_dave said:
Yup, Dubai is a sunny place for shady people.
I was there pre-financial crisis, so before the complete chavification of the place. It was actually a decent place to be expatting back then. Not now though. Ghastly overpriced, underpaid Vegas imitation for wannabes.
Plus it's full of dodgy Russians.I was there pre-financial crisis, so before the complete chavification of the place. It was actually a decent place to be expatting back then. Not now though. Ghastly overpriced, underpaid Vegas imitation for wannabes.
The russians I came across were what we would describe as 'import and export wheeler/dealers', The russian equivalent of Arthur Daley.
They would fly over as couples. The guy would buy up al sorts of stuff to ship back, the women would work the bars & expat clientele. When they'd made enough between them they'd clear off back to Russia.
GT03ROB said:
It was longer ago than that!
They would fly over as couples. The guy would buy up al sorts of stuff to ship back, the women would work the bars & expat clientele. When they'd made enough between them they'd clear off back to Russia.
Many of the :cough: working ladies were from Dagestan, along with Uzbekhs, Khazaks and Kirgiz.They would fly over as couples. The guy would buy up al sorts of stuff to ship back, the women would work the bars & expat clientele. When they'd made enough between them they'd clear off back to Russia.
Most came in via Sharjah and Ras al Khaimah were it seemed that tourist visa regs were a bit more lax.
In Abu Dhabi it seemed to be more Chinese from my occasional visits there.
They had a clearout in AD one year when Big Z was motoring along the Corniche and asked "Who are all these people, what are they doing here?"
pork911 said:
dvs_dave said:
pork911 said:
Thin skinned I see, but i am serious.
Expats are immigrants who are richer than the local populace.
An expatriate is a person who temporarily resides outside their country of citizenship.Expats are immigrants who are richer than the local populace.
An immigrant is a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.
No one except Emiratis can live permanently in the UAE. Sponsorship by an Emirati one way or another is required. Therefore everyone not from the UAE living there is by definition an expat, and not an immigrant.
I was an expat in Dubai, and I am now an immigrant in the USA, but I am a citizen of the UK.
HTH
How many sniffy brits in Dubai describe themselves as immigrants in normal conversation
The immigrant / expat distinction is very much real in many a self image
HTH lolz
HTH
pork911 said:
dvs_dave said:
pork911 said:
Thin skinned I see, but i am serious.
Expats are immigrants who are richer than the local populace.
An expatriate is a person who temporarily resides outside their country of citizenship.Expats are immigrants who are richer than the local populace.
An immigrant is a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.
No one except Emiratis can live permanently in the UAE. Sponsorship by an Emirati one way or another is required. Therefore everyone not from the UAE living there is by definition an expat, and not an immigrant.
I was an expat in Dubai, and I am now an immigrant in the USA, but I am a citizen of the UK.
HTH
How many sniffy brits in Dubai describe themselves as immigrants in normal conversation
The immigrant / expat distinction is very much real in many a self image
HTH lolz
Whether it be an American or European Project Manager or a South Asian labourer, all are expats by definition.
I never heard any of the above describe themselves as 'immigrants' only as transient workers employed on a temporary basis.
Perhaps you ought to broaden your horizons a little before spouting off on subjects about which you know nothing.
darling.
GT03ROB said:
It was longer ago than that!
They would fly over as couples. The guy would buy up al sorts of stuff to ship back, the women would work the bars & expat clientele. When they'd made enough between them they'd clear off back to Russia.
Long story short. Wife and I spent 1st wedding aniversary at Burj, back when the island projects were still only just starting construction. We didn't actually 'choose' Dubai, but rather, it was conveniently combined with visiting a mate who was living and working in Oman.They would fly over as couples. The guy would buy up al sorts of stuff to ship back, the women would work the bars & expat clientele. When they'd made enough between them they'd clear off back to Russia.
7 stars my arse.
Anyway, all the big, thuggish looking blokes with pneumatically enhanced partners were, very obviously and unapolagetically Russian. It was the first time I'd seen Russian money - the sort that went on to be the scourge of just about every luxury resort on the planet. About 4 or 5 years later, another mate's family who'd moved to Cap d'Antibes were moving out of there, for that reason.
fly by wire said:
pork911 said:
dvs_dave said:
pork911 said:
Thin skinned I see, but i am serious.
Expats are immigrants who are richer than the local populace.
An expatriate is a person who temporarily resides outside their country of citizenship.Expats are immigrants who are richer than the local populace.
An immigrant is a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.
No one except Emiratis can live permanently in the UAE. Sponsorship by an Emirati one way or another is required. Therefore everyone not from the UAE living there is by definition an expat, and not an immigrant.
I was an expat in Dubai, and I am now an immigrant in the USA, but I am a citizen of the UK.
HTH
How many sniffy brits in Dubai describe themselves as immigrants in normal conversation
The immigrant / expat distinction is very much real in many a self image
HTH lolz
Whether it be an American or European Project Manager or a South Asian labourer, all are expats by definition.
I never heard any of the above describe themselves as 'immigrants' only as transient workers employed on a temporary basis.
Perhaps you ought to broaden your horizons a little before spouting off on subjects about which you know nothing.
darling.
Expat means you're there temporarily, but its mostly associated with professional workers. A temporary non professional worker would more likely be called an immigrant even though they are also temporary/expat
Somone who moves permanently would be an immigrant no matter what profession or class.
fly by wire said:
dvs dave is spot on, darling.
Whether it be an American or European Project Manager or a South Asian labourer, all are expats by definition.
I never heard any of the above describe themselves as 'immigrants' only as transient workers employed on a temporary basis.
Perhaps you ought to broaden your horizons a little before spouting off on subjects about which you know nothing.
darling.
broad as fWhether it be an American or European Project Manager or a South Asian labourer, all are expats by definition.
I never heard any of the above describe themselves as 'immigrants' only as transient workers employed on a temporary basis.
Perhaps you ought to broaden your horizons a little before spouting off on subjects about which you know nothing.
darling.
k darlingpork911 said:
fly by wire said:
dvs dave is spot on, darling.
Whether it be an American or European Project Manager or a South Asian labourer, all are expats by definition.
I never heard any of the above describe themselves as 'immigrants' only as transient workers employed on a temporary basis.
Perhaps you ought to broaden your horizons a little before spouting off on subjects about which you know nothing.
darling.
broad as fWhether it be an American or European Project Manager or a South Asian labourer, all are expats by definition.
I never heard any of the above describe themselves as 'immigrants' only as transient workers employed on a temporary basis.
Perhaps you ought to broaden your horizons a little before spouting off on subjects about which you know nothing.
darling.
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