Gunmen attack prison van in France, free pris, kill guards

Gunmen attack prison van in France, free pris, kill guards

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borcy

3,192 posts

58 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Perhaps I've misread, but I don't think the french have said the convoy was the maximum security level for prisoner transport just that it was increased.

In this case it may have been an additional van warrented by the increase security.

I'm fairly sure there's specialist police units in france for high risk prisoner transfer.

Earthdweller

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13,661 posts

128 months

Wednesday 15th May
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gotoPzero said:
I refer you back to my post directly above yours

Unescorted prison service contractors van with civilian detention officers

And to raise you …

https://youtu.be/pH4p5HCrrL8?si=P2sezuEnF-mG4CHT

https://youtu.be/sfGU276PoQ0?si=glL0BEOnDvgYGVjH

BikeBikeBIke

8,310 posts

117 months

Wednesday 15th May
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borcy said:
Perhaps I've misread, but I don't think the french have said the convoy was the maximum security level for prisoner transport just that it was increased.

In this case it may have been an additional van warrented by the increase security.

I'm fairly sure there's specialist police units in france for high risk prisoner transfer.
Maybe it's hindsight but four armed blokes seems exactly the wrong choice.

Not enough to defend against a suprise attack but dangerous enough that attackers can't take chances and have to pretty much kill everyone.

If they'd been unarmed they'd be alive.

(I know nothing about this topic so it sure how useful my opinion is... but this is the Internet. So....)

Abbott

2,487 posts

205 months

Wednesday 15th May
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IanH755 said:
This is a UK CAT A convoy for comparison - A dozen plus vehicles all filled with rifle armed Police, plus cut-off groups etc for the highest category Crims.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwlbpsox298

So whilst the UK has had attacks on much lower class (CAT C etc) "convoys", where there's just a prison Van and nothing else, a full on CAT A convoy is a different kettle of fish!
The French have exactly the same thing as the CAT A. AS POSTED EARLIER I have witnessed it 1st hand (as a voyeur not a detainee)

It seems the risk was not assessed correctly

Vanden Saab

14,213 posts

76 months

Thursday 16th May
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gotoPzero said:
Convicted a year later along with 11 other gang members involved

chrisgtx

1,201 posts

212 months

Tuesday 21st May
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I haven’t heard any updates on this.
I happened to drive through the toll gate on Thursday. There were still armed guards there.
And there was a protest by guards burning tyres outside the prison in Rouen.

Southerner

1,467 posts

54 months

Tuesday 21st May
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chrisgtx said:
I haven’t heard any updates on this.
I happened to drive through the toll gate on Thursday. There were still armed guards there.
And there was a protest by guards burning tyres outside the prison in Rouen.
Prison guards rioting (ish…) outside a prison…. Only in France! biggrin

Abbott

2,487 posts

205 months

Tuesday 21st May
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chrisgtx said:
I haven’t heard any updates on this.
I happened to drive through the toll gate on Thursday. There were still armed guards there.
And there was a protest by guards burning tyres outside the prison in Rouen.
Yes looks a bit quiet on the general news for last 7 days. There was a Police chief on french TV yesterday basically saying hat there is a significant number of officers working on the investiagtion:

Numerous investigations are underway in this investigation. “There are investigations both for the collection of testimonies and technical investigations which continue to develop,” explains the public prosecutor. “I have no doubt that they are progressing and that they will result in a positive way, that is to say through the arrest of the authors of these acts.”


F1GTRUeno

6,379 posts

220 months

Tuesday 21st May
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RSbandit said:
Hunt the perpetrators down and bury them …only way to send a message to such scum.
I really don't think they give a st either way.