The Sharpening Thread

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S6PNJ

5,190 posts

283 months

Saturday 17th February
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dickymint said:
Ah well best to make start….

Any update please? How does it fare compared to your hand sharpening?

wolfracesonic

7,121 posts

129 months

Saturday 17th February
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swanny71 said:
dickymint said:
Ouch!! two slices of thumb yikes


Top job thumbup
Slices of my plums, not thumbs yikes
That’s even worse!!!!!

dickymint

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24,551 posts

260 months

Saturday 17th February
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S6PNJ said:
dickymint said:
Ah well best to make start….

Any update please? How does it fare compared to your hand sharpening?
Miles better as it's so simple to get the angle correct on both flutes and on centre. Here's one of the first one's I did but wished I'd taken a pic of the state it was in to start - it would judder loads and not cut at all bordering on dangerous to use. It's 3/4" and the largest drill that fits in the chuck.............









Like sharpening knifes the larger drills can take a fair bit of time to complete but once done the next time would take just a few passes.
Very pleased with it but pricey for DIY use?

S6PNJ

5,190 posts

283 months

Saturday 17th February
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dickymint said:
Very pleased with it but pricey for DIY use?
Cheers! I had it in my mind it was about £65 but having just looked again, I can see it is around £225 - Hmm, maybe an AliE version beckons???

Steve Campbell

2,152 posts

170 months

Friday 8th March
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I think I'm about to take the plunge with a HORL 2. I'm a complete novice but have some nice Wusthof knives I want to keep in good condition.

I've read a few reviews that suggest the Tumbler is just as good, and others saying the HORL is the go to and don't be fooled by the "lesser" quality product (buy cheap, buy twice kind of thing).

I have no problems with the cost....but I like to get value for money. HORL 2 or otherwise....what say the wise sharpeners of Pistonheads who have experience of either or both ?

I have no intention of going to a wet stone and improving my skills, I want something that is easy and idiot proof. I've tried various pull through sharpeners but frankly, none of them have impressed me.

dickymint

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24,551 posts

260 months

Friday 8th March
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Steve Campbell said:
I think I'm about to take the plunge with a HORL 2. I'm a complete novice but have some nice Wusthof knives I want to keep in good condition.

I've read a few reviews that suggest the Tumbler is just as good, and others saying the HORL is the go to and don't be fooled by the "lesser" quality product (buy cheap, buy twice kind of thing).

I have no problems with the cost....but I like to get value for money. HORL 2 or otherwise....what say the wise sharpeners of Pistonheads who have experience of either or both ?

I have no intention of going to a wet stone and improving my skills, I want something that is easy and idiot proof. I've tried various pull through sharpeners but frankly, none of them have impressed me.
From what I've seen the Tumbler discs are not replaceable therefore different grit sizes not available. I would avoid. There are others on the market cheaper than the Horl2 that do interchangeable discs but I've no idea on their quality.

B'stard Child

28,504 posts

248 months

Friday 8th March
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Steve Campbell said:
I think I'm about to take the plunge with a HORL 2. I'm a complete novice but have some nice Wusthof knives I want to keep in good condition.

I've read a few reviews that suggest the Tumbler is just as good, and others saying the HORL is the go to and don't be fooled by the "lesser" quality product (buy cheap, buy twice kind of thing).

I have no problems with the cost....but I like to get value for money. HORL 2 or otherwise....what say the wise sharpeners of Pistonheads who have experience of either or both ?

I have no intention of going to a wet stone and improving my skills, I want something that is easy and idiot proof. I've tried various pull through sharpeners but frankly, none of them have impressed me.
I bought a cheap copy off the interweb - it's brilliant a huge step up from my previous sharpening stick (they are called something but CRS) I spent an afternoon sharpening all the knives and they cut so much easier with next to no effort (only time I've ever cut myself was with a blunt knife so I try to keep them sharpe)

But.............

I can see it's already becoming less brilliant it's taking more rolls to get the edge up to scratch

I think in maybe 12 mths it's going to be useless worn out junk but at that point I'll buy the HORL one

If you can afford the genuine article I think that's the way to go

Bonefish Blues

27,160 posts

225 months

Friday 8th March
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Daft Q, but could one glue a disc of the appropriate grade of W&D paper on when needed?

RustyMX5

7,329 posts

219 months

Friday 8th March
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Bonefish Blues said:
Daft Q, but could one glue a disc of the appropriate grade of W&D paper on when needed?
Probably better using velcro. At least that way you can change grits or worn out paper. 3M used to do a good line in the stuff called 'Hookit' at one point but I have no idea whether they still do.

Error_404_Username_not_found

2,310 posts

53 months

Friday 8th March
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RustyMX5 said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Daft Q, but could one glue a disc of the appropriate grade of W&D paper on when needed?
Probably better using velcro. At least that way you can change grits or worn out paper. 3M used to do a good line in the stuff called 'Hookit' at one point but I have no idea whether they still do.
Not so sure. Velcro would allow a lot of flex in the W&D, and movement even if the W&D were stuck to something stiff which was then attached with velcro.
Double sided sticky tape works very well sticking W&D to glass; that's mostly what I use for honing chisels. And it's cheap.

RustyMX5

7,329 posts

219 months

Friday 8th March
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Error_404_Username_not_found said:
RustyMX5 said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Daft Q, but could one glue a disc of the appropriate grade of W&D paper on when needed?
Probably better using velcro. At least that way you can change grits or worn out paper. 3M used to do a good line in the stuff called 'Hookit' at one point but I have no idea whether they still do.
Not so sure. Velcro would allow a lot of flex in the W&D, and movement even if the W&D were stuck to something stiff which was then attached with velcro.
Double sided sticky tape works very well sticking W&D to glass; that's mostly what I use for honing chisels. And it's cheap.
When I used the 3M stuff a few years ago (checks calendar..... Ummm 30 years ago) there was absolutely no movement whatsoever and unvelcroing (?) it required a pair of grips.

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2,310 posts

53 months

Friday 8th March
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RustyMX5 said:
When I used the 3M stuff a few years ago (checks calendar..... Ummm 30 years ago) there was absolutely no movement whatsoever and unvelcroing (?) it required a pair of grips.
Yes, I get what you mean Rusty. There are better options than basic velcro even now. There's a kind of ninja mutant version called duralock for example (which I think is a 3M product and reassuringly expensive) but the usual strip velcro from Amazon or Ebay is so soft and crushable that I doubt it would be possible to maintain a consistent angle to the blade.
Just saying (and trying to be helpful) and the double sided tape option is so easy and cheap. As noted, I use it often for chisels and plane irons. The sticky residue is easy to remove with WD40 BTW.

Bonefish Blues

27,160 posts

225 months

Friday 8th March
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Error_404_Username_not_found said:
RustyMX5 said:
When I used the 3M stuff a few years ago (checks calendar..... Ummm 30 years ago) there was absolutely no movement whatsoever and unvelcroing (?) it required a pair of grips.
Yes, I get what you mean Rusty. There are better options than basic velcro even now. There's a kind of ninja mutant version called duralock for example (which I think is a 3M product and reassuringly expensive) but the usual strip velcro from Amazon or Ebay is so soft and crushable that I doubt it would be possible to maintain a consistent angle to the blade.
Just saying (and trying to be helpful) and the double sided tape option is so easy and cheap. As noted, I use it often for chisels and plane irons. The sticky residue is easy to remove with WD40 BTW.
Reassuringly low tech solution is reassuring

I think I'll invest a mighty £25 on a looky-a-bit-likey version smile

Craigyboy143

26 posts

7 months

Saturday 9th March
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does anyone have any fancy natural Japanese stones?? looking to take my first steps into the expensive world of natural stones

Simpo Two

85,826 posts

267 months

Saturday 9th March
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Craigyboy143 said:
does anyone have any fancy natural Japanese stones?? looking to take my first steps into the expensive world of natural stones
No but here's a link to a place I've been to a few times: https://www.classichandtools.com/sharpening/water-...

dickymint

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24,551 posts

260 months

Saturday 9th March
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Craigyboy143 said:
does anyone have any fancy natural Japanese stones?? looking to take my first steps into the expensive world of natural stones
No and personally I wouldn't go down that route. They need to be soaked in water, kept flat, cleaned etc. which seems like too much hassle. Take a look at this guys Youtube channel. Here's what I'd be looking at. I'll be getting one myself now that the 8" x 3" version is now available on Amazon UK (it wasn't last time I looked a week ago) ..................

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07GRWN1PV?th=1&_e...


This video but strongly suggest you look at his other videos before you commit...................





Edit: Just ordered mine thumbup

DoubleSix

11,736 posts

178 months

Sunday 10th March
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How are people bringing the zing back to the serrated knives, bread knives in particular?…

dickymint

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24,551 posts

260 months

Sunday 10th March
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DoubleSix said:
How are people bringing the zing back to the serrated knives, bread knives in particular?…
Tried a few times with various tools and to be honest I found it far too time consuming for little reward. Besides a Victorinox Pastry knife is quite cheap.

Bonefish Blues

27,160 posts

225 months

Sunday 10th March
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The best I can do is with a little round sharpening pen in the individual serrations and then a single stroke down the flat side, but it's never great.

jodypress

1,930 posts

276 months

Monday 11th March
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dickymint said:
Steve Campbell said:
I think I'm about to take the plunge with a HORL 2. I'm a complete novice but have some nice Wusthof knives I want to keep in good condition.

I've read a few reviews that suggest the Tumbler is just as good, and others saying the HORL is the go to and don't be fooled by the "lesser" quality product (buy cheap, buy twice kind of thing).

I have no problems with the cost....but I like to get value for money. HORL 2 or otherwise....what say the wise sharpeners of Pistonheads who have experience of either or both ?

I have no intention of going to a wet stone and improving my skills, I want something that is easy and idiot proof. I've tried various pull through sharpeners but frankly, none of them have impressed me.
From what I've seen the Tumbler discs are not replaceable therefore different grit sizes not available. I would avoid. There are others on the market cheaper than the Horl2 that do interchangeable discs but I've no idea on their quality.
I bought this one from Amazon based on someone here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CNTJK8HB?ref=ppx_yo2... (even cheaper now) Really like the edge it gives, easy to use and can use these replaceable discs here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CPM5FVF4/?coliid=I3V...

Having spent years sharpening cut throat razors with Japanese stones to great effect, I've tried using some of my lower grit stones but takes a while, with a family of 5 I just don't have the time to spend sharpening my chef's knife.
I've had great success using this Rolling Knife Sharpener.