The Sharpening Thread

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Atomic GTI

41 posts

109 months

Thursday 21st December 2023
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I have one of the ruixin 008 sharpening jig things, I think its pretty good. can get them very cheap from the usual Chinese places.

Would recommend the up-rated rose joint, a coarse-ish ceramic stone (220 - 400) (if you are completely changing the angle) and perhaps some of the very fine ones if you like to spend ages getting things to a mirror finish.

Perhaps a bit of a faff mounting things and changing stones if you are already good at free hand sharpening on a whetstone. but for a beginner who wants to make things sharp i wouldn't recommend many other things.

also add a cheap leather strop and some compound for that finishing touch.

Just be careful not to over do it starting at the choil end of the knife over and over again, making it too high compared to the rest of the edge. its a lot of effort having to try and fix it!


dickymint

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24,629 posts

260 months

Thursday 21st December 2023
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Atomic GTI said:
I have one of the ruixin 008 sharpening jig things, I think its pretty good. can get them very cheap from the usual Chinese places.

Would recommend the up-rated rose joint, a coarse-ish ceramic stone (220 - 400) (if you are completely changing the angle) and perhaps some of the very fine ones if you like to spend ages getting things to a mirror finish.

Perhaps a bit of a faff mounting things and changing stones if you are already good at free hand sharpening on a whetstone. but for a beginner who wants to make things sharp i wouldn't recommend many other things.

also add a cheap leather strop and some compound for that finishing touch.

Just be careful not to over do it starting at the choil end of the knife over and over again, making it too high compared to the rest of the edge. its a lot of effort having to try and fix it!
Good to see they've up-rated the rose joint as my plastic one now fits like a 'dick in a shirt sleeve'. Mine also does an awful job of clamping the stone - I've had 2 fall out and smashed on the floor! Overall they work really well.

andyxxx

1,182 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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I have a pull through (have watched the above video) and have never been happy with it.
I don’t want to use a wetstone or the above mentioned jig.

I don’t want to spend anything like this but has anybody else used it? (or something similar)
https://shop.tormek.com/en-gb/products/tormek-t-1-...

There must be something where I just insert the knife and it puts a clean sharp edge?

dickymint

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24,629 posts

260 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Quick update on the Horl 2 system I started this thread with........

My favourite knife (one of a set of 4 but really like this one) I'll own up as it's had a lot of obuse and deep nicks ( by Wifey of course) so gave it a flash on the Triton powered whetstone to get them out. Then onto the Horl 2 using the standard 600 grit and 1000 honer followed by the 3000 and 6000 wheels and finished on the supplied leather strop.













Excellent result with mixed feelings on value for money. I'll post some pros and cons when I get back......

Regbuser

3,792 posts

37 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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...from having a deep cut stitched at A&E..?!

JerryEXE

535 posts

101 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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I’ve just given all of the knives a pre Christmas sharpen with this -



I like it’s simplicity, I also have the whetstones but find them a lot more challenging to use to get the same sharpness.

Miocene

1,368 posts

159 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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andyxxx said:
I have a pull through (have watched the above video) and have never been happy with it.
I don’t want to use a wetstone or the above mentioned jig.

I don’t want to spend anything like this but has anybody else used it? (or something similar)
https://shop.tormek.com/en-gb/products/tormek-t-1-...

There must be something where I just insert the knife and it puts a clean sharp edge?
This is exactly where I am - wanting something less damaging than a pull through but without spending £200+!

dickymint

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24,629 posts

260 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Just arrived.................




Wifey said "who's first me or you" yikes

dickymint

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24,629 posts

260 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Miocene said:
andyxxx said:
I have a pull through (have watched the above video) and have never been happy with it.
I don’t want to use a wetstone or the above mentioned jig.

I don’t want to spend anything like this but has anybody else used it? (or something similar)
https://shop.tormek.com/en-gb/products/tormek-t-1-...

There must be something where I just insert the knife and it puts a clean sharp edge?
This is exactly where I am - wanting something less damaging than a pull through but without spending £200+!
It's Tormek so guaranteed to be quality but not for me.

Does knifes only unlike it's big brother the T4 or T8 that can sharpen virtually anything.
Only has a 600 grit stone - hardly a "professionals choice"
Using a 600 grit stone regularly will soon wear a blade down.


Joe M

689 posts

247 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Been watching some reviews of the different sharpeners, tormek, horl etc.
Think I'm going to go for a Work Sharp Ken Onion edition. Any experience of it on here?

Simpo Two

85,883 posts

267 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Joe M said:
Been watching some reviews of the different sharpeners, tormek, horl etc.
Think I'm going to go for a Work Sharp Ken Onion edition. Any experience of it on here?
Ken Onion.... I thought you were making it up, but no: https://www.cyclaireshop.co.uk/knife-sharpening-to...

Looks like the same idea as the Robert Sorby Pro-Edge.

C n C

3,369 posts

223 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Well, thanks to this thread, I've just been down a sharpening rabbit hole on YouTube.

I like the idea of using a whetstone, but didn't like the idea of them wearing and having to re-flatten them from time to time.

This led to looking at diamond whetstones, as they should remain flat indefinitely. The recommendation seems to be to go for monocrystal diamonds that are properly embedded in the metal block rather than stuck on with adhesives.

Although DMT were an often recommended option, they did appear quite expensive, so I've ultimately gone for a Trend double-sided one with 300 grit one side and 1000 grit the other. Also ordered a small bottle of lapping fluid to use with it. Total cost was £60.

I suspect this setup will be more than sufficient for my needs, so will see how I get on with this, and decide later whether to add a strop for a finer polish at the end.

wolfracesonic

7,145 posts

129 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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^ The cost of the lapping fluid seems rapacious quite steep, try this when you’ve used it all Honerite Gold, £18.00 makes six litres. I mix a batch up and decant some in to an empty window cleaning hand pump spray.

C n C

3,369 posts

223 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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wolfracesonic said:
^ The cost of the lapping fluid seems rapacious quite steep, try this when you’ve used it all Honerite Gold, £18.00 makes six litres. I mix a batch up and decant some in to an empty window cleaning hand pump spray.
Thanks for this. I also thought the cost was pretty steep, so will try your suggestion in future. thumbup

dickymint

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24,629 posts

260 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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C n C said:
wolfracesonic said:
^ The cost of the lapping fluid seems rapacious quite steep, try this when you’ve used it all Honerite Gold, £18.00 makes six litres. I mix a batch up and decant some in to an empty window cleaning hand pump spray.
Thanks for this. I also thought the cost was pretty steep, so will try your suggestion in future. thumbup
Welcome to the madhouse nuts You don't need any compound with that type of stone other than water (not really needed in use either other than to clean it).

Yes a strop should be used but for now an old pair of denim jeans can be used for that. Have a Google on it. thumbup


wolfracesonic

7,145 posts

129 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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^ Yes water will do the job, all you need is for it to float any swarf out of the way, however the benefit of the Honerite over plain old water is its rust inhibiting properties, both for the plate and your tools.

andyxxx

1,182 posts

229 months

Wednesday 27th December 2023
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Got fed up with blunt knives over Christmas so just bought a Chef's Choice 120

Didn’t really want to spend £165 (on price match) but this has been recommended to me so if it does the job, I will be happy.

https://www.hartsofstur.com/chefs-choice-120-edge-...

Miocene

1,368 posts

159 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Let us know how you get on with it!

I'd settled(ish) on this one, but not purchases yet, as it consistently gets good reviews and seems straightforward to use:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sharp-Precision-Adjust-Kn...

dickymint

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24,629 posts

260 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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Miocene said:
Let us know how you get on with it!

I'd settled(ish) on this one, but not purchases yet, as it consistently gets good reviews and seems straightforward to use:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sharp-Precision-Adjust-Kn...
Look carefully at the youtube videos and see how flimsy and 'wobbly' the plastic is.

andyxxx

1,182 posts

229 months

Saturday 30th December 2023
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dickymint said:
Miocene said:
Let us know how you get on with it!

I'd settled(ish) on this one, but not purchases yet, as it consistently gets good reviews and seems straightforward to use:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sharp-Precision-Adjust-Kn...
Look carefully at the youtube videos and see how flimsy and 'wobbly' the plastic is.
I also looked at that sharpener but agree with Dmint - it looks too fiddly and flimsy - I want simple/easy/sharp/longevity