Andrew Tate - The Real World
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The cam business is an aspect I honestly didn't have much issue with. If there's trafficking and abuse etc then that's an entirely different story.. But the actual business - I mean in the sense of 'ripping off lonely / desperate men' - absolutely no different to PPV p0rn in that respect, or even OnlyFans in more recent years. If you were daft enough to click those Live Jasmin popups that used to be all over the net ~10 years ago, then you're probably daft enough to pay £100/month to see an Instagram model take her kit off 
smithyithy said:
The cam business is an aspect I honestly didn't have much issue with. If there's trafficking and abuse etc then that's an entirely different story.
That IS the issue.And manipulating women into doing things. The BBC iplayer documentary goes into it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001q1n6/and...
smithyithy said:
The cam business is an aspect I honestly didn't have much issue with. If there's trafficking and abuse etc then that's an entirely different story.. But the actual business - I mean in the sense of 'ripping off lonely / desperate men' - absolutely no different to PPV p0rn in that respect, or even OnlyFans in more recent years. If you were daft enough to click those Live Jasmin popups that used to be all over the net ~10 years ago, then you're probably daft enough to pay £100/month to see an Instagram model take her kit off
The clip i saw was him laughing that he would chat to punters posing as the cam girls, pretending to be interested in a relationship but saying that she needs 10s of thousands for a passport, visa and flight tickets, then make excuses why she needs more money, then provoking an argument to explain why she isnt coming, then leaving it a while and milking more money on the promise of a relationship when its him posing as the girl, not even the girl. To me that goes far beyond onlyfans paypiggery thats well into fraud, deception and abuse. It is hard to feel too much sympathy for the sad saps who fall for it but still, definitely extremely dishonest and manipulative behavior.If that is what he was doing and not him BSing i think he deserves the same kind of justice you would want to see with the indian refund scammers who target old people.
Regarding the trafficking and all the other stuff I just dont know, I find it hard to believe 2/3rds of the s
t I hear on the news now, we get lied to so often and so blatantly now I reserve judgement on a lot of things until the evidence is overwhelming.Edited by OldGermanHeaps on Tuesday 9th April 17:05
wildoliver said:
It all makes sense.
It's Ricky Gervais latest real time docucomedy.
It's Ricky Gervais latest real time docucomedy.
It's true that you never see Karl Pilkington and Andrew Tate in the same room.
And now that I think of it, Pilkington was always very negative towards everything. I mean, what's wrong with eating chicken foetuses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q2dZ3Zld5U
Hoofy said:
wildoliver said:
It all makes sense.
It's Ricky Gervais latest real time docucomedy.
It's Ricky Gervais latest real time docucomedy.
It's true that you never see Karl Pilkington and Andrew Tate in the same room.
And now that I think of it, Pilkington was always very negative towards everything. I mean, what's wrong with eating chicken foetuses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q2dZ3Zld5U
wildoliver said:
Hoofy said:
wildoliver said:
It all makes sense.
It's Ricky Gervais latest real time docucomedy.
It's Ricky Gervais latest real time docucomedy.
It's true that you never see Karl Pilkington and Andrew Tate in the same room.
And now that I think of it, Pilkington was always very negative towards everything. I mean, what's wrong with eating chicken foetuses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q2dZ3Zld5U
Yeah, the posting of extreme views about anything suddenly makes sense as a parody account.I have watched Tate Confidentials and see some of their posts on instagram, I think most people who like Tate just see those and think they're just a couple of rich lads selling courses and trolling lefties. If you just watch their videos it's mostly them driving to exotic places in supercars and taking the piss.
The actual evidence for their criminality isn't really brought across well by the media and if you're the sort of person who doesn't trust traditional media sources it's easy to believe it's all made up/ a matrix attack or whatever he calls it.
The Tates have a bit of an open goal because the messaging across 90% of their content isn't wrong.
If you're a man born in the 90s the message your whole childhood was to be nice, be academically successful (go to uni) and get a good job and you'll be successful. What actually happened was that uni saddled you with debt, the good job might pay £50k by the time you're 30 if you're lucky, but because of high inflation that £50k job doesn't get you the lifestyle you thought it would. It doesn't help that the modern world pretty much conspires to make you fat (slop food) demotivated (porn, social media doomscrolling etc) and lazy (games, the piss).
If you feel like you've been lied to by the system your whole life the message to not waste time wking, go to the gym and look for alternative sources of income to a normal wage; looks pretty appealing
The actual evidence for their criminality isn't really brought across well by the media and if you're the sort of person who doesn't trust traditional media sources it's easy to believe it's all made up/ a matrix attack or whatever he calls it.
The Tates have a bit of an open goal because the messaging across 90% of their content isn't wrong.
If you're a man born in the 90s the message your whole childhood was to be nice, be academically successful (go to uni) and get a good job and you'll be successful. What actually happened was that uni saddled you with debt, the good job might pay £50k by the time you're 30 if you're lucky, but because of high inflation that £50k job doesn't get you the lifestyle you thought it would. It doesn't help that the modern world pretty much conspires to make you fat (slop food) demotivated (porn, social media doomscrolling etc) and lazy (games, the piss).
If you feel like you've been lied to by the system your whole life the message to not waste time w
king, go to the gym and look for alternative sources of income to a normal wage; looks pretty appealingHoofy said:
Yep, a lot of what he says makes sense, but enough of what else he says is enough to make you run away.
There are other motivational coaches eg Tony Robbins if people want the alpha vibe without the sex trafficking.
From the message above yours it looks like what make sense applies to women as well as men though. I guess that's what makes you want to run away?There are other motivational coaches eg Tony Robbins if people want the alpha vibe without the sex trafficking.
Edited by Hoofy on Tuesday 21st May 16:04
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