The Official Tottenham Hotspur thread [Vol 14]
Discussion
mickk said:
Blimey we've had Ange for a season and we're still in for a shout of CL league football, look how poor Arteta and Klopp were when they first arrived.
He's made mistakes especially in the cup games, but I would never have imagined us in this position this time last year.
Give your heads a wobble.
I'm with you Mickk, new manager, lots of new players, we're actually having a transitional season unlike some others who just claiming they are. Takes time, I am looking forward to next season, but some forward line recruitment is needed.He's made mistakes especially in the cup games, but I would never have imagined us in this position this time last year.
Give your heads a wobble.
SWoll said:
mickk said:
Blimey we've had Ange for a season and we're still in for a shout of CL league football, look how poor Arteta and Klopp were when they first arrived.
He's made mistakes especially in the cup games, but I would never have imagined us in this position this time last year.
Give your heads a wobble.
30 points from the 23 PL games you've played since the start of November is quite rightly concerning people I'd suggest? That's 6 months of bottom half of the table form. He's made mistakes especially in the cup games, but I would never have imagined us in this position this time last year.
Give your heads a wobble.
As mickk said, no idea how we are still 5th in a transitional season - new manager, new staff, new players, new tactics. But I'll take a top 6 finish this season all day long.
Itsallicanafford said:
Can anybody explain what Richy did after we the pen to make it 3-2. As far as I can tell, straight from kick off he just runs straight into the centre back and knocked him over?
Yes he did - hot-headed and I thought he could have seen a red for that and got lucky.The contact on Kulu by Trossard was deemed minimal (presumably by the ref, but certainly by var as reported) and not enough to be a pen. I think sometimes it is given as a pen - maybe 50% of the time - so Arsenal were lucky there. The other thing on that one is that you can see that Kulu stays on his feet initially then after a couple of steps just drops himself to the floor. Add that to the fact he dived when running down the wing about ten minutes before probably made it easy for Oliver not to give anything.
I thought Spurs were unlucky clearly when a goal is ruled out for being what a few inches offside, and showed a lot of fight. For a defeat there were definitely some positives to take, though I'd be wanting Ange to spend time on set pieces for sure.
What goes around comes around etc. but VAR is demonstrably a failure, considering it was sold as solving clear & obvious errors. The whole logic of offside is to deny opposition players unfair advantages. When they're pissing about with coloured lines to work out whether world class athletes can keep up, the whole thing is discredited. Cov should be in the cup final imo.
mickk said:
Blimey we've had Ange for a season and we're still in for a shout of CL league football, look how poor Arteta and Klopp were when they first arrived.
He's made mistakes especially in the cup games, but I would never have imagined us in this position this time last year.
Give your heads a wobble.
And don't forget, those gloating Gooner types, not long ago were complaining to anyone that would listen to sack Captain Scarlet. Now, obviously 'they knew it would work out' He's made mistakes especially in the cup games, but I would never have imagined us in this position this time last year.
Give your heads a wobble.
Football fans.
carlo996 said:
mickk said:
Blimey we've had Ange for a season and we're still in for a shout of CL league football, look how poor Arteta and Klopp were when they first arrived.
He's made mistakes especially in the cup games, but I would never have imagined us in this position this time last year.
Give your heads a wobble.
And don't forget, those gloating Gooner types, not long ago were complaining to anyone that would listen to sack Captain Scarlet. Now, obviously 'they knew it would work out' He's made mistakes especially in the cup games, but I would never have imagined us in this position this time last year.
Give your heads a wobble.
Football fans.
President Merkin said:
What goes around comes around etc. but VAR is demonstrably a failure, considering it was sold as solving clear & obvious errors. The whole logic of offside is to deny opposition players unfair advantages. When they're pissing about with coloured lines to work out whether world class athletes can keep up, the whole thing is discredited. Cov should be in the cup final imo.
I think VAR offsides should be scrapped until they can be decided in real time. All the players and fans going berserk because they think they have scored, only for it to be cancelled a few minutes later because of some lines drawn after freeze-framing a replay. Offside is supposed to deny attackers an advantage but if it can't be determined in real time, how much of an advantage can it be? I mean, VDV is the quickest player in the league, he could have been a yard onside and he'd still have got to the ball first It's just sucking all the joy out of the game. I even paused the TV after the goal and went and got a beer out of the fridge. Goal had been cancelled before I'd had my first sip
TEKNOPUG said:
President Merkin said:
What goes around comes around etc. but VAR is demonstrably a failure, considering it was sold as solving clear & obvious errors. The whole logic of offside is to deny opposition players unfair advantages. When they're pissing about with coloured lines to work out whether world class athletes can keep up, the whole thing is discredited. Cov should be in the cup final imo.
I think VAR offsides should be scrapped until they can be decided in real time. All the players and fans going berserk because they think they have scored, only for it to be cancelled a few minutes later because of some lines drawn after freeze-framing a replay. Offside is supposed to deny attackers an advantage but if it can't be determined in real time, how much of an advantage can it be? I mean, VDV is the quickest player in the league, he could have been a yard onside and he'd still have got to the ball first It's just sucking all the joy out of the game. I even paused the TV after the goal and went and got a beer out of the fridge. Goal had been cancelled before I'd had my first sip
I agree with all that & worded my point poorly, but to be clear, using it to decide games (and it's Coventry I have in mind) on the basis of a toenail, an elbow or half a boot length undermines it.
No measurable advantage accrues in those fag paper situations & logically no infringement is incurred. It's a wholly disproportionate application of the letter of the law. The VDV one was a carbon copy of Haji Wright, it may or may not have changed the day but it's such a common occurrence & draining the life out of the game.
No measurable advantage accrues in those fag paper situations & logically no infringement is incurred. It's a wholly disproportionate application of the letter of the law. The VDV one was a carbon copy of Haji Wright, it may or may not have changed the day but it's such a common occurrence & draining the life out of the game.
48k said:
TEKNOPUG said:
President Merkin said:
What goes around comes around etc. but VAR is demonstrably a failure, considering it was sold as solving clear & obvious errors. The whole logic of offside is to deny opposition players unfair advantages. When they're pissing about with coloured lines to work out whether world class athletes can keep up, the whole thing is discredited. Cov should be in the cup final imo.
I think VAR offsides should be scrapped until they can be decided in real time. All the players and fans going berserk because they think they have scored, only for it to be cancelled a few minutes later because of some lines drawn after freeze-framing a replay. Offside is supposed to deny attackers an advantage but if it can't be determined in real time, how much of an advantage can it be? I mean, VDV is the quickest player in the league, he could have been a yard onside and he'd still have got to the ball first It's just sucking all the joy out of the game. I even paused the TV after the goal and went and got a beer out of the fridge. Goal had been cancelled before I'd had my first sip
TEKNOPUG said:
President Merkin said:
What goes around comes around etc. but VAR is demonstrably a failure, considering it was sold as solving clear & obvious errors. The whole logic of offside is to deny opposition players unfair advantages. When they're pissing about with coloured lines to work out whether world class athletes can keep up, the whole thing is discredited. Cov should be in the cup final imo.
I think VAR offsides should be scrapped until they can be decided in real time. All the players and fans going berserk because they think they have scored, only for it to be cancelled a few minutes later because of some lines drawn after freeze-framing a replay. Offside is supposed to deny attackers an advantage but if it can't be determined in real time, how much of an advantage can it be? I mean, VDV is the quickest player in the league, he could have been a yard onside and he'd still have got to the ball first It's just sucking all the joy out of the game. I even paused the TV after the goal and went and got a beer out of the fridge. Goal had been cancelled before I'd had my first sip
Willo777 said:
HighwayStar said:
Define credible, in relation to this subject….
Seems crazy that loads of West Ham fans want Moyes out especially after winning something , All the spuds I know seem happy with their new man .
Probably not an issue if you just read the results in the paper the next day....
Willo777 said:
HighwayStar said:
Define credible, in relation to this subject….
Seems crazy that loads of West Ham fans want Moyes out especially after winning something , All the spuds I know seem happy with their new man .
48k said:
Willo777 said:
HighwayStar said:
Define credible, in relation to this subject….
Seems crazy that loads of West Ham fans want Moyes out especially after winning something , All the spuds I know seem happy with their new man .
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