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McLaren are running a special livery in Monaco, it looks pretty cool:
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclaren-reveals-...
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclaren-reveals-...
Muzzer79 said:
I’m not sure I’d go so far as “OTT”
Senna was an icon, his death as tragic as it was public.
But I too find it a little odd when people talk about crying and suchlike, over someone they didn’t know.
I cried, I was 8 at the time mind you and I remember my parents having to explain what happened to RR the day before. So when the likes of Hamilton tell you they cried I can relate, we were all the same age!Senna was an icon, his death as tragic as it was public.
But I too find it a little odd when people talk about crying and suchlike, over someone they didn’t know.
Daz68 said:
Considering he drove a red, white and blue, black with gold stripes, yellow with blue animals, red and white, and blue and white with red and gold stripes (apologies if I missed some) it makes a bit more sense to do the helmet colours to me.patmahe said:
Surprised to see the negativity towards the livery as I think it looks amazing, it certainly beats Ferrari's week of hype over adding a blue stripe to their car, at least this is very different and there were no silly teasers.
Why are you surprised? Different people have different tastes, it's simple. I don't like it, but I don't find it bad either.Though I didn't like the Ferrari either, so maybe I'm getting old and grumpy!
Siao said:
patmahe said:
Surprised to see the negativity towards the livery as I think it looks amazing, it certainly beats Ferrari's week of hype over adding a blue stripe to their car, at least this is very different and there were no silly teasers.
Why are you surprised? Different people have different tastes, it's simple. I don't like it, but I don't find it bad either.Though I didn't like the Ferrari either, so maybe I'm getting old and grumpy!
Off topic I know but seeing the tributes to both Senna and Ratzenberger reminded me how iconic helmet designs used to be. The fact that a drivers identity could be distilled down to a few bold stripes which will forever be recognised.
I can’t think of many current drivers who could be readily identified from their helmet design
I can’t think of many current drivers who could be readily identified from their helmet design
patmahe said:
Siao said:
patmahe said:
Surprised to see the negativity towards the livery as I think it looks amazing, it certainly beats Ferrari's week of hype over adding a blue stripe to their car, at least this is very different and there were no silly teasers.
Why are you surprised? Different people have different tastes, it's simple. I don't like it, but I don't find it bad either.Though I didn't like the Ferrari either, so maybe I'm getting old and grumpy!
patmahe said:
Surprised to see the negativity towards the livery as I think it looks amazing, it certainly beats Ferrari's week of hype over adding a blue stripe to their car, at least this is very different and there were no silly teasers.
a combination of forums being generally populated by the opinionated & the idea that seeing anything Senna related in anything other than McLaren red & white causes a fair bit of dissonanceI personally like it
Eric Mc said:
I think it's OK.
Senna raced for four F1 teams -
Toleman
Lotus
McLaren
Williams
In his period with Lotus the team sponsor changed from JPS to Camel. So, altogether, colours from five different schemes could (should?) be applied if painting a tribute car.
I guess seeing as 4 of those 5 liveries are associated with tobacco companies and only 1 was on a McLaren, it's a better idea to go with his famous helmet colours. It's a tribute to a former driver associated with them. not a tribute to 5 different companies.Senna raced for four F1 teams -
Toleman
Lotus
McLaren
Williams
In his period with Lotus the team sponsor changed from JPS to Camel. So, altogether, colours from five different schemes could (should?) be applied if painting a tribute car.
I'm with the OP. I was never a Senna fan, indeed I lost all respect for him when he took Prost out at Suzuka, and even admitted afterwards it was deliberate
My opinion was and still is, that for a cynical move like that which could so easily have resulted in a death or deaths, he should have been banned from motorsport for good - and probably would still be alive today.
I also agree that in recent years, mawkishness has increased to the point where it's just plain nauseating.
My opinion was and still is, that for a cynical move like that which could so easily have resulted in a death or deaths, he should have been banned from motorsport for good - and probably would still be alive today.
I also agree that in recent years, mawkishness has increased to the point where it's just plain nauseating.
Stealthracer said:
I'm with the OP. I was never a Senna fan, indeed I lost all respect for him when he took Prost out at Suzuka, and even admitted afterwards it was deliberate
My opinion was and still is, that for a cynical move like that which could so easily have resulted in a death or deaths, he should have been banned from motorsport for good - and probably would still be alive today.
I also agree that in recent years, mawkishness has increased to the point where it's just plain nauseating.
Where do you stand regarding Schumacher, Vettel, Verstappen and their 'antics'?My opinion was and still is, that for a cynical move like that which could so easily have resulted in a death or deaths, he should have been banned from motorsport for good - and probably would still be alive today.
I also agree that in recent years, mawkishness has increased to the point where it's just plain nauseating.
Maybe F1 isn't for you...
Stealthracer said:
I'm with the OP. I was never a Senna fan, indeed I lost all respect for him when he took Prost out at Suzuka, and even admitted afterwards it was deliberate
My opinion was and still is, that for a cynical move like that which could so easily have resulted in a death or deaths, he should have been banned from motorsport for good - and probably would still be alive today.
I also agree that in recent years, mawkishness has increased to the point where it's just plain nauseating.
after Suzuka '89 Prost would have had a fair idea what was comingMy opinion was and still is, that for a cynical move like that which could so easily have resulted in a death or deaths, he should have been banned from motorsport for good - and probably would still be alive today.
I also agree that in recent years, mawkishness has increased to the point where it's just plain nauseating.
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