RE: Ford Puma ST | PH Used Buying Guide
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I honestly don't hate these, I scoffed at the thought of ruining the Puma name for a Fiesta on stilts when it got announced, but honestly, I prefer it to the now gone Fiesta, the Puma looks exciting and sporty compared to the mundane looks of the 8th Gen Fiesta.
Shame to hear it has expensive issues.
Shame to hear it has expensive issues.
I can give a little clarification on the following in the article, as ours has just been addressed.
"Creaking or a ‘ching’ noise when applying steering lock has been noticed on some STs. At least one owner was told that they needed new steering rack bolts. We couldn’t find any evidence of a recall or tech bulletin on this"
Ours developed a knock in the steering at about 2.75 years old, 22,000 miles.
Ford dealer freely admitted that there's a technical service bulletin on this, and they'd take a look at the service.
In the first instance Ford replaced some bolts.
Didn't fix ours, so a new steering column was ordered, that took just over two weeks to arrive.
Replaced, and sorted under warranty.
So as the article says, be mindful that the early cars are about to go out of warranty.
So if a Puma ST has the knock, and is over 3 years old, price up a replacement steering column before you buy.
Or maybe Ford will do goodwill repair on a car that's over 3 years old? now that they've issued a bulletin?? Maybe they will..
Other than the steering column, pleased to report no other issues at all in three years.
"Creaking or a ‘ching’ noise when applying steering lock has been noticed on some STs. At least one owner was told that they needed new steering rack bolts. We couldn’t find any evidence of a recall or tech bulletin on this"
Ours developed a knock in the steering at about 2.75 years old, 22,000 miles.
Ford dealer freely admitted that there's a technical service bulletin on this, and they'd take a look at the service.
In the first instance Ford replaced some bolts.
Didn't fix ours, so a new steering column was ordered, that took just over two weeks to arrive.
Replaced, and sorted under warranty.
So as the article says, be mindful that the early cars are about to go out of warranty.
So if a Puma ST has the knock, and is over 3 years old, price up a replacement steering column before you buy.
Or maybe Ford will do goodwill repair on a car that's over 3 years old? now that they've issued a bulletin?? Maybe they will..
Other than the steering column, pleased to report no other issues at all in three years.
Edited by Trevor555 on Monday 20th May 17:33
UncleGoat said:
I honestly don't hate these, I scoffed at the thought of ruining the Puma name for a Fiesta on stilts when it got announced, but honestly, I prefer it to the now gone Fiesta, the Puma looks exciting and sporty compared to the mundane looks of the 8th Gen Fiesta.
Shame to hear it has expensive issues.
Exciting? Shame to hear it has expensive issues.
There is nothing more mundane than a small FWD crossover. They're the opposite of "sporty", evidenced by the number of OAPs that buy them because of back / hip pain getting in to a normal car. The only way they could make it less interesting, especially after having made it auto only, would be to make it an EV.Firebobby said:
30-40k miles. Just getting ready for a £1k timing/oil pump belt change! Either that or wake up in a cold sweat every night wondering if it'll get you work next day without blitzing itself. Not for me thanks.
The 1.5 is a dry belt system so none of the 1.0 wet belt issues.Clivey said:
UncleGoat said:
I honestly don't hate these, I scoffed at the thought of ruining the Puma name for a Fiesta on stilts when it got announced, but honestly, I prefer it to the now gone Fiesta, the Puma looks exciting and sporty compared to the mundane looks of the 8th Gen Fiesta.
Shame to hear it has expensive issues.
Exciting? Shame to hear it has expensive issues.
There is nothing more mundane than a small FWD crossover. They're the opposite of "sporty", evidenced by the number of OAPs that buy them because of back / hip pain getting in to a normal car. The only way they could make it less interesting, especially after having made it auto only, would be to make it an EV.For me, I stopped buying Fords when they stopped making Fiestas though, to be fair, the Mk 8 had gone through a gross blandification as did many other manufacturers looking for a "timeless" dullness, like a VW.
Anyway, lost interest in all Fords as a result of the Puma....oh and the Mach-e as well. It's like standing back and watching Rome burn, OK, Detroit.
Oh and for you young scoffers, the hip pain and arthritis is very real. Crouching down to polish the nether regions of a car has a 50% chance of never regaining your feet! I know because I bought an MX5 RF instead.
Edited by LuS1fer on Tuesday 21st May 09:14
Bought a brand new ST, one of the last 1.5s with Performance Pack as a 'spare car' (Drive the Deal - £4k discount).
An absolute bargain (given today's new car prices), more than enough performance, total hoot to drive on wet B roads with the LSD. Seems to be well screwed together and driven sensibly returns 38 mpg. We needed something small yet practical, good performance and well under £30k after discount.
So far, extremely happy.
Wouldn't touch the facelift ST with a bargepole.
An absolute bargain (given today's new car prices), more than enough performance, total hoot to drive on wet B roads with the LSD. Seems to be well screwed together and driven sensibly returns 38 mpg. We needed something small yet practical, good performance and well under £30k after discount.
So far, extremely happy.
Wouldn't touch the facelift ST with a bargepole.
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Firebobby said:
30-40k miles. Just getting ready for a £1k timing/oil pump belt change! Either that or wake up in a cold sweat every night wondering if it'll get you work next day without blitzing itself. Not for me thanks.
The 1.5 is a dry belt system so none of the 1.0 wet belt issues.Edit. Ignore the above.
It has a chain driven cam with wet belt oil pump.I think that these engines also have twin injectors per cylinder. One direct, the other indirect a la Toyota Dynamic Force. This significantly reduces the DI tendency to carbon up inlet valves.
They can also run on two cylinders under light load to improve economy and its always number one cylinder that shuts down.
Edited by 5s Alive on Tuesday 21st May 13:56
The Puma has been a huge success story for Ford at a time when sales of its Focus and Fiesta models seemed to fall off a cliff. However, overall the demise of Ford is sad for me. When I look back at their range in the 90s and 2000s and every one of their bread and butter cars were designed to be enjoyable to drive and their reliability record was actually by and large very good. Even as recent as the Mk7 Fiesta; that was a really well designed small car which I have been a passenger in many times and it never fails to impress me with its comfortable ride but punchy for its size engine. Maybe I need to drive a Puma and then make up my mind before writing off every current Ford. There's a guy on the Shed thread who runs one and says its the most enjoyable Ford he has driven since his Mk1 Focus, so what do I know!
I bought one for the wife, it is a great little town car and handles pretty well, roundabouts are great fun - really positive turn in and something you can throw around a b-road nicely - ours has never had any problems, though only 1 year into ownership - well built and the boot is very practical with the power box thing.
As I love road version of rally cars I kid myself it is a rally car homologation to keep the three car garage all rally cars
As I love road version of rally cars I kid myself it is a rally car homologation to keep the three car garage all rally cars
mart4856 said:
Keep the priceless comments coming please....
"I bought a Puma ST as a spare car".
"We bought a Mustang Mach E as weekend toy".
You obviously live in a different world to the rest of us.
I hate to break it to you, but there are people out there that buy much more expensive cars than a Puma as a "spare" car. "I bought a Puma ST as a spare car".
"We bought a Mustang Mach E as weekend toy".
You obviously live in a different world to the rest of us.
Jon_S_Rally said:
mart4856 said:
Keep the priceless comments coming please....
"I bought a Puma ST as a spare car".
"We bought a Mustang Mach E as weekend toy".
You obviously live in a different world to the rest of us.
I hate to break it to you, but there are people out there that buy much more expensive cars than a Puma as a "spare" car. "I bought a Puma ST as a spare car".
"We bought a Mustang Mach E as weekend toy".
You obviously live in a different world to the rest of us.
RacingPete said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
mart4856 said:
Keep the priceless comments coming please....
"I bought a Puma ST as a spare car".
"We bought a Mustang Mach E as weekend toy".
You obviously live in a different world to the rest of us.
I hate to break it to you, but there are people out there that buy much more expensive cars than a Puma as a "spare" car. "I bought a Puma ST as a spare car".
"We bought a Mustang Mach E as weekend toy".
You obviously live in a different world to the rest of us.
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