RE: Ford Puma ST | PH Used Buying Guide

RE: Ford Puma ST | PH Used Buying Guide

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pycraft

816 posts

186 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Two pages of comments about the Puma and not one about how much it looks like a DBX.

On DBX articles, it's usually every other post.

Clivey

5,146 posts

206 months

Tuesday 21st May
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CG2020UK said:
Ford Puma ST in black was in front of me tonight.

Don’t know if anyone has noticed but have to say the rear indicators are actually awful.
Yes! The actual lens for the indicator part of the cluster is tiny and so easy to miss when the brake lights are on, in bright sunlight etc. A very poor design IMO.

Rich Boy Spanner

1,375 posts

132 months

Tuesday 21st May
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RacingPete said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
mart4856 said:
Keep the priceless comments coming please....

"I bought a Puma ST as a spare car".

"We bought a Mustang Mach E as weekend toy".

You obviously live in a different world to the rest of us.
I hate to break it to you, but there are people out there that buy much more expensive cars than a Puma as a "spare" car.
I had to take the spare car from the garage last night to get somewhere as my other three main cars were out of petrol... does that put me in the rich camp for taking the spare car or poor for not having fuel hehe
Personally I would be sacking my servants for allowing this no fuel situation to occur in the first place.

Jon_S_Rally

3,465 posts

90 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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greenarrow said:
The Puma has been a huge success story for Ford at a time when sales of its Focus and Fiesta models seemed to fall off a cliff. However, overall the demise of Ford is sad for me. When I look back at their range in the 90s and 2000s and every one of their bread and butter cars were designed to be enjoyable to drive and their reliability record was actually by and large very good. Even as recent as the Mk7 Fiesta; that was a really well designed small car which I have been a passenger in many times and it never fails to impress me with its comfortable ride but punchy for its size engine. Maybe I need to drive a Puma and then make up my mind before writing off every current Ford. There's a guy on the Shed thread who runs one and says its the most enjoyable Ford he has driven since his Mk1 Focus, so what do I know!
Worth noting that the Puma's success isn't entirely what it seems. It may be the top selling car in the UK, but it seems to hang around at the bottom of the top 10 in mainland Europe, and is outsold by the Clio, 208 and Sandero.

I do have to wonder what would have happened in the UK if Ford had continued to sell the Fiesta. With the parts shortages around the pandemic, they prioritised their more profitable models, meaning that cars like the Fiesta and Focus were made more difficult to order. Those customers were pushed to cars like the Puma, so Ford could then claim that the Puma was outselling the Fiesta and thus remove it from sale. If the Fiesta had continued and supply hadn't been strangled, I suspect it might have stubbornly remained at or near the top of the sales charts. Not ideal for Ford of course, as they struggled to make money on them, but shows that they can manipulate the market to some extent.

I wonder if it might all come back to bite them in the future to be honest. There is clearly still demand for small cars and, with Renault launching the 5 EV, they might find themselves wishing they still had a proper small car in their line-up.

cooperd5

88 posts

174 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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The irony of Puma parcel shelf collapses .... Just like the old one.

MightyBadger

2,317 posts

52 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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UncleGoat said:
the Puma looks exciting and sporty compared to the mundane looks of the 8th Gen Fiesta.
wtf biglaughbiglaughbiglaugh




Edited by MightyBadger on Wednesday 22 May 15:32

HazzaT

485 posts

47 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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MightyBadger said:
wtf biglaughbiglaughbiglaugh




Edited by MightyBadger on Wednesday 22 May 15:32
Don't be daft, this looks so staid and boring next to the Puma


Matthen

1,305 posts

153 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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5s Alive said:
Car 54 where are you said:
Firebobby said:
30-40k miles. Just getting ready for a £1k timing/oil pump belt change! Either that or wake up in a cold sweat every night wondering if it'll get you work next day without blitzing itself. Not for me thanks.
The 1.5 is a dry belt system so none of the 1.0 wet belt issues.
Earlier versions of the 1.5 were dry belt and gear driven oil pump so completely reliable as a result. This only lasted for a year and the 1.5s are now dry cam belt but wet oil pump belt!

Edit. Ignore the above. boxedin It has a chain driven cam with wet belt oil pump.

I think that these engines also have twin injectors per cylinder. One direct, the other indirect a la Toyota Dynamic Force. This significantly reduces the DI tendency to carbon up inlet valves.

They can also run on two cylinders under light load to improve economy and its always number one cylinder that shuts down.


Edited by 5s Alive on Tuesday 21st May 13:56
It is indeed a chain. Unsure on how the oil pump belt will last - time will tell.

I'm 99% sure mine has never deactivated a cylinder in the 1000s of motorway miles it's done. Reasonably certain ford killed the feature in 2020 - either that or you really can't tell when it has powered one down.

It's an absolute hoot to drive, and surprisingly planted given its height. MPG will drop into the 20s on a spirited drive, not 30s, as in the article. (Was it written by AI? It didn't read especially well at all?)

And for those comparing it with the Fiesta : 4 6ft adults can ride in the Puma in comfort, because of the increased head space - no chance in the Fiesta. It is a far better car day to day than the Fiesta ever was.

The petrol tank is too small though.