ZC33S, 970kg Hot hatch

ZC33S, 970kg Hot hatch

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Oldybaldy17

38 posts

25 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Have you done anything with the gear stick? I had a quick scan through your thread but couldn't see anything.
I've ordered a WK Motorsport gear shift, currently being shipped, so will see if it's worth the expense. I'm hoping it will be better for the track and my Autosolos.
I did Bedford autodrome recently so I have a few things to do before the next trackday. Your suspension mods sound like a good option, as I need to use it everyday.
It's becoming an expensive hobby this car driving

xu5

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652 posts

159 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Oldybaldy17 said:
Have you done anything with the gear stick? I had a quick scan through your thread but couldn't see anything.
I've ordered a WK Motorsport gear shift, currently being shipped, so will see if it's worth the expense. I'm hoping it will be better for the track and my Autosolos.
I did Bedford autodrome recently so I have a few things to do before the next trackday. Your suspension mods sound like a good option, as I need to use it everyday.
It's becoming an expensive hobby this car driving
I have the solid shift mounts on the cradle and gearbox bracket. The actual gearstick is still standard but I do plan on getting R's Racing short shifter that reduces throw 25~% and marginally raises the gearstick but otherwise looks standard.

I have developed an irrational compulsion to collect different gear knobs, I currently have seven (!), one in the post and plan on another. They cover various styles and weights from 65 - 440g. I enjoy swapping between them but generally find I prefer a light weight knob as it gives a nice mechanical feel with a more defined snappy feel. The heaviest knob is smooth but has a kind of dull soft edge to it.


The Monster Sport knob made from Delrin, weighs 65g for nice snappy positive shift. Quite a small item but I really like the shape as it acts like a ball in socket in the palm where if it were larger you tend to actually grip the knob rather than a more fluid action.


I liked the Monster Sport knob so much I had a machinist reproduce it in polished Aluminium. This is my current favourite.


I asked WC Lathewerks from USA to adapt their "short Piston" design to fit the ZC33S which has an unusually large reverse lockout ring. It is in Stainless Steel with an iridescent heat treated Gunmetal/Bronze finish, it is a beautiful piece of art in itself. The shape suits the way I like to shift and being a bit taller brings the knob closer to the wheel, although a subtle difference does make a change to shifting.

The WK shifter does look like a nice bit of kit. While technically a short shifter, because the lever is much longer I think the throw actually ends up similar to normal. I think the real benefit for on track is that your shift and steering wheel are a much closer distance.

While the Bilstein/Eibach combo have firmed and tightened things up I did choose it very much with the intention of a road set up. I guess it depends how far on the scale you want to go but I might say that my car would probably still be classed as quite soft for a track set up, but obviously firmer than standard. The bracing should reap benefits on track.

Oldybaldy17

38 posts

25 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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I have the Monster gear knob and really like it over standard. Your current gear shift looks really nice. Thought I'd try the wk, if I don't like it I'll just have to sell it on.
My bracing so far is a cusco up front, largus c pillar and a hardrace rarb. Suspension will be my next big purchase later this year, hopefully.

Maccmike8

1,058 posts

56 months

Sunday 26th May
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xu5 said:
I have the solid shift mounts on the cradle and gearbox bracket. The actual gearstick is still standard but I do plan on getting R's Racing short shifter that reduces throw 25~% and marginally raises the gearstick but otherwise looks standard.

I have developed an irrational compulsion to collect different gear knobs, I currently have seven (!), one in the post and plan on another. They cover various styles and weights from 65 - 440g. I enjoy swapping between them but generally find I prefer a light weight knob as it gives a nice mechanical feel with a more defined snappy feel. The heaviest knob is smooth but has a kind of dull soft edge to it.


The Monster Sport knob made from Delrin, weighs 65g for nice snappy positive shift. Quite a small item but I really like the shape as it acts like a ball in socket in the palm where if it were larger you tend to actually grip the knob rather than a more fluid action.


I liked the Monster Sport knob so much I had a machinist reproduce it in polished Aluminium. This is my current favourite.


I asked WC Lathewerks from USA to adapt their "short Piston" design to fit the ZC33S which has an unusually large reverse lockout ring. It is in Stainless Steel with an iridescent heat treated Gunmetal/Bronze finish, it is a beautiful piece of art in itself. The shape suits the way I like to shift and being a bit taller brings the knob closer to the wheel, although a subtle difference does make a change to shifting.

The WK shifter does look like a nice bit of kit. While technically a short shifter, because the lever is much longer I think the throw actually ends up similar to normal. I think the real benefit for on track is that your shift and steering wheel are a much closer distance.

While the Bilstein/Eibach combo have firmed and tightened things up I did choose it very much with the intention of a road set up. I guess it depends how far on the scale you want to go but I might say that my car would probably still be classed as quite soft for a track set up, but obviously firmer than standard. The bracing should reap benefits on track.
Great read this thank you. Im leaning towards getting one myself, maybe some time later this year.

MattsCar

1,092 posts

107 months

Sunday 26th May
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Is the ZC33s gear knob a threaded type?

Reason I ask is that someone sold me a monster sport knob that was supposed to fit my ZC31s, but it turns out that the 31s doesn't have a thread. Just trying to work out what it actually fits.

xu5

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652 posts

159 months

Saturday 1st June
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Sorry i missed your reply. Yes the zc33s is a threaded knob. M12x1.25, the lift up reverse collar is particularly large so the need for large internal bore limits off the shelf options. It has to be atleast about 34mm, i will take an exact measurement when i get my vernier caliper.

MattsCar said:
Is the ZC33s gear knob a threaded type?

Reason I ask is that someone sold me a monster sport knob that was supposed to fit my ZC31s, but it turns out that the 31s doesn't have a thread. Just trying to work out what it actually fits.

Acorn1

699 posts

22 months

Saturday 1st June
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Cracking little motor, I had no idea they were so svelt.

I prefer the styling of the old swift, my ex girlfriend had one and I loved driving that.