Ban of sale of new petrol & diesel cars now back to 2035

Ban of sale of new petrol & diesel cars now back to 2035

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CrgT16

1,992 posts

110 months

Tuesday 21st May
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EVs in their current state are not a solution for all motoring but can play a role for some uses. There will be no magic bullet and in the decades to come what will diminish is personal transport because it will become unaffordable to a lot of people. That’s were we are heading… less personal transport

tamore

7,079 posts

286 months

Tuesday 21st May
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CrgT16 said:
EVs in their current state are not a solution for all motoring but can play a role for some uses. There will be no magic bullet and in the decades to come what will diminish is personal transport because it will become unaffordable to a lot of people. That’s were we are heading… less personal transport
key bit being EVs in their current state. big advances will come before 2030 even, to cover all bet the fringiest of fringe cases.

to reduce personal transport, which i happen to think is a decent goal, we need enormous investment in public transport. sadly that won't happen.

Oliver Hardy

2,661 posts

76 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Just posted on another thread but just discovered that although the ICE ban has been pushed back to 2035 manufactures still have a target of having to sell 80% of EV cars by 2030 and 70% of van sales must be EVs

car sales van sales
2024 22% 10%
2025 28% 16%
2026 33% 24%
2027 38% 34%
2028 52% 46%
2029 66% 58%
2030 80% 70%



Edited by Oliver Hardy on Tuesday 28th May 03:51

Oilchange

8,525 posts

262 months

Tuesday 28th May
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tamore said:
key bit being EVs in their current state. big advances will come before 2030 even, to cover all bet the fringiest of fringe cases.
Your crystal ball seems to be on top form, guess we’ll see wink

charltjr

194 posts

11 months

Tuesday 28th May
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Oliver Hardy said:
Just posted on another thread but just discovered that although the ICE ban has been pushed back to 2035 manufactures still have a target of having to sell 80% of EV cars by 2030 and 70% of van sales must be EVs

car sales van sales
2024 22% 10%
2025 28% 16%
2026 33% 24%
2027 38% 34%
2028 52% 46%
2029 66% 58%
2030 80% 70%

Edited by Oliver Hardy on Tuesday 28th May 03:51
Yes, which is why Boris’ stupid manoeuvre to bring the date forward to 2030 and then the move back to 2035 was just window dressing. It’s those targets, which have teeth becuase they have financial penalties attached, which are driving the change for the manufacturers.

HTP99

22,691 posts

142 months

Tuesday 28th May
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charltjr said:
Oliver Hardy said:
Just posted on another thread but just discovered that although the ICE ban has been pushed back to 2035 manufactures still have a target of having to sell 80% of EV cars by 2030 and 70% of van sales must be EVs

car sales van sales
2024 22% 10%
2025 28% 16%
2026 33% 24%
2027 38% 34%
2028 52% 46%
2029 66% 58%
2030 80% 70%

Edited by Oliver Hardy on Tuesday 28th May 03:51
Yes, which is why Boris’ stupid manoeuvre to bring the date forward to 2030 and then the move back to 2035 was just window dressing. It’s those targets, which have teeth becuase they have financial penalties attached, which are driving the change for the manufacturers.
Going to be interesting times ahead towards the end of this year and future years when manufacturers start to restrict sales and supply of ICE vehicles so they can hit their EV penetration.

Going to be harder for dealers too, less new sales in general due to manufacturers holding back ICE, fewer deals on ICE for the consumer too.

I'm in new car sales and the private buyer is just is not interested in EV, It'll be interesting to see how this all pans out.


greend

1 posts

1 month

Tuesday 28th May
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Going to be interesting times ahead towards the end of this year and future years when manufacturers start to restrict sales and supply of ICE vehicles so they can hit their EV penetration.

Going to be harder for dealers too, less new sales in general due to manufacturers holding back ICE, fewer deals on ICE for the consumer too.

I'm in new car sales and using discounts here and the private buyer is just is not interested in EV, It'll be interesting to see how this all pans out.

I wonder how this will affect the prices of used ICE cars?
I think the charging infrastructure needs to be more developed before EVs become truly popular. I don’t think that by ’35 they will have made all the conditions

Edited by greend on Monday 3rd June 07:32