E39 perished windscreen rubber

E39 perished windscreen rubber

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d_a_n1979

8,787 posts

74 months

Monday 20th May
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Glassman said:
d_a_n1979 said:
The top corners have metal in them
Not on the E39 trims.
Ah thought they did; always felt very stiff when removing them

Glassman

22,667 posts

217 months

Monday 20th May
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d_a_n1979 said:
Glassman said:
d_a_n1979 said:
The top corners have metal in them
Not on the E39 trims.
Ah thought they did; always felt very stiff when removing them
The three straight (ish) lengths are a different composite material to the corners which is the main reason the corners perish or split.

Olivergt

1,375 posts

83 months

Monday 20th May
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Glassman said:
Olivergt said:
Glassman,

I think this is the trim that is being replaced?

Is it really necessary to remove the glass for this?

https://youtu.be/sxPlV_hM2m8?si=-RjtBZlM-rZqk0Mp

I'm sure M539 on YT has done the same as well without issue and he would be quite fastidious as well.

I'll definitely bow to your superior windscreen knowledge, but it doesn't seem like the glass needs to come out for tus trim to be fitted?
To be fitted properly, yes.

The guy (and others) manages to swap in with the glass in place although he does use a soap solution to ease the trim in. Inside the trim is butyl which helps grip the trim onto the glass. Butyl and soap don't mix.

It's clearly possible and many have managed to do it successfully. However, the design of the fitment is press it onto the glass edge before installing the windscreen. No washing up liquid is needed but a warmer trim does respond better to a cold one.

In three decades of fitting windscreens, the only application(s) where you would fit the trim after the glass going in is on a 'christmas tree' push-in fit on a Nissan or Toyota because they're designed that way (for the PUR to also adhere to the trim). I have never thought to do that on any BMW because it's a very different design and the butyl is doing the job the PUR does on the Japanese cars.

Good luck if you are thinking of trying it. Looks a long process and I'm quietly confident of not only doing it quicker by removing the glass, but overall, a better finish with no knife marks in the trim or car.
Thanks for the clarification and the reasoning behind being glass out, it make more sense now.

It's not something that I am contemplating, but good to have the knowledge.

Thanks again.

TX1

2,399 posts

185 months

Monday 20th May
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Out of curiousity if the rubber is perished what damage is done if it is not replaced, will it leak in water somewhere ?

Glassman

22,667 posts

217 months

Monday 20th May
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TX1 said:
Out of curiousity if the rubber is perished what damage is done if it is not replaced, will it leak in water somewhere ?
No. The trim is cosmetic.

TX1

2,399 posts

185 months

Monday 20th May
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Glassman said:
TX1 said:
Out of curiousity if the rubber is perished what damage is done if it is not replaced, will it leak in water somewhere ?
No. The trim is cosmetic.
Aha thanks, car might go soon ( been saying that for 2 years ) so might let the new owner sort it out.

lufbramatt

5,370 posts

136 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Did mine with no tools etc and the trim is perfectly straight and flat and it’s not going to fall off.

Take the point that the proper way is screen out, but looking at mine I can’t see how it would give a better result. Especially on a 20 year old car that’s worth £4K on a good day, the cost of paying someone to take the glass out is a big chunk of the value of the car, but diy-ing it gives the car a huge lift visually.

Glassman

22,667 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st May
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lufbramatt said:
Did mine with no tools etc and the trim is perfectly straight and flat and it’s not going to fall off.

Take the point that the proper way is screen out, but looking at mine I can’t see how it would give a better result. Especially on a 20 year old car that’s worth £4K on a good day, the cost of paying someone to take the glass out is a big chunk of the value of the car, but diy-ing it gives the car a huge lift visually.
That's fair enough and in the spirit of a DIY-ing car enthusiast.

It should be noted that not everyone will have success like many have had. The issue then becomes being forced into calling someone out when you're established in the task after taking the old trim out.

d_a_n1979

8,787 posts

74 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Glassman said:
lufbramatt said:
Did mine with no tools etc and the trim is perfectly straight and flat and it’s not going to fall off.

Take the point that the proper way is screen out, but looking at mine I can’t see how it would give a better result. Especially on a 20 year old car that’s worth £4K on a good day, the cost of paying someone to take the glass out is a big chunk of the value of the car, but diy-ing it gives the car a huge lift visually.
That's fair enough and in the spirit of a DIY-ing car enthusiast.

It should be noted that not everyone will have success like many have had. The issue then becomes being forced into calling someone out when you're established in the task after taking the old trim out.
In all honesty a LOT of folk have replaced the front windscreen trim on LOTS of E39s with zero issues... It's a very common DIY and question on the relevant forums; and the same for the saloon rear trims too (although a lot forget that the bottom piece is separate)...

The age they're at now; it tends to be one of the most common questions and where to source etc

Glassman

22,667 posts

217 months