Today I am binning Microsoft

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gangzoom

6,370 posts

217 months

Sunday 14th January
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MikeHo said:
ps. what has Outlook got to do with OneDrive?
One of the best bits of 365/OneDrive is been able to access all your files on any device any where, with no worries about version control. Pretty pointless in having email access on any device any where if you end up only been able to save/edit files locally on the device.

Personal use is very different from work, but for work I personally couldn't function without the convince of OneDrive these days.


Louis Balfour

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26,498 posts

224 months

Sunday 14th January
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mph999 said:
Louis Balfour said:
My new Macbook arrives tomorrow. The plan is to set that up, to get me going for now. When I am satisfied that I am comfortable with how it works I will buy the desktop machine and enjoy ultimate ease of use in the sunlit uplands of the Apple ecosystem.

At some point, I will need to access my data on Onedrive. I am assuming that the Mac will allow me to do that.... won't it....

One of my major concerns is that Microsoft seems to have stripped off attachments from my Outlook emails on both my desktop machine and my phone. My more tech-savvy child shrugged and said "meh, probably taking up space on Onedrive and they don't want that". Microsoft wouldn't really do that would they, just like they wouldn't delete all my locally stored files.... oh wait....
If you’re going to get a desktop machine, look at the Mac Minis, brilliant things for the money.
That's exactly what I plan to get.

I have spent the past day happily stabbing away at buttons on my new Macbook, trying to work it out. I have got it basically set up now. A way to go though.

I am using Outlook for mail for the moment, but the plan is to bin it on both Macbook and desktop. The Apple calendar seems better and I can drag and drop appointments, which suits how I use the calendar. It works like that on MS but it wasn't possible on Outlook for Mac as far as I could determine.





sparkyhx

4,156 posts

206 months

Sunday 14th January
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anonymoususer said:
I can remember a Commodore pet"
ditto, going from a Pet at college to a ZX spectrum at home, was painful, I gave up in the end with the totally unnecessarily complicated spectrum keyboard.

Moving onto punch cards at Uni, was 'interesting' to say the least, they made the spectrum keyboard seem a doddle



I'm no Apple hater, but the work world is MS etc. and the MS Office experience on Apple is too different/deficient. I have however seen Windows install on a mac work great.



Edited by sparkyhx on Sunday 14th January 17:53

MikeHo

1,259 posts

268 months

Monday 15th January
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Louis Balfour said:
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I have spent the past day happily stabbing away at buttons on my new Macbook, trying to work it out. I have got it basically set up now. A way to go though.

I am using Outlook for mail for the moment, but the plan is to bin it on both Macbook and desktop. The Apple calendar seems better and I can drag and drop appointments, which suits how I use the calendar. It works like that on MS but it wasn't possible on Outlook for Mac as far as I could determine.
Here's a qn, do you pay for your MS or are you on freebie stuff and who hosts your email?

I got round to having a read about Outlook and OneDrive, seems quite sensible tbh what they've done with attachments. But you will get more out of it with a paid sub i reckon.

Louis Balfour

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26,498 posts

224 months

Monday 15th January
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MikeHo said:
Louis Balfour said:
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I have spent the past day happily stabbing away at buttons on my new Macbook, trying to work it out. I have got it basically set up now. A way to go though.

I am using Outlook for mail for the moment, but the plan is to bin it on both Macbook and desktop. The Apple calendar seems better and I can drag and drop appointments, which suits how I use the calendar. It works like that on MS but it wasn't possible on Outlook for Mac as far as I could determine.
Here's a qn, do you pay for your MS or are you on freebie stuff and who hosts your email?

I got round to having a read about Outlook and OneDrive, seems quite sensible tbh what they've done with attachments. But you will get more out of it with a paid sub i reckon.
My desktop apps were all paid for, The MS online stuff is free.

Email is the default one provided with the BT Internet, plus we have multiple domains with Krystal.

You say what they have done with attachments - what have they done with them?

MikeHo

1,259 posts

268 months

Monday 15th January
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As i understand it ........ if you email an attachment to LOADS of people or even forward one on then it stores it in OneDrive instead of actually shoving it in the email. The recipients then effectively get a link/access to the OneDrive file rather than filling up email servers. Not sure if this is dependent on whether the recipient has an MS account - probably is.
I think this is why they have now included the size of all your attachments in OneDrive as part of your email allowance.
No idea how that interacts with a BT email wobble

Louis Balfour

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26,498 posts

224 months

Monday 15th January
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MikeHo said:
As i understand it ........ if you email an attachment to LOADS of people or even forward one on then it stores it in OneDrive instead of actually shoving it in the email. The recipients then effectively get a link/access to the OneDrive file rather than filling up email servers. Not sure if this is dependent on whether the recipient has an MS account - probably is.
I think this is why they have now included the size of all your attachments in OneDrive as part of your email allowance.
No idea how that interacts with a BT email wobble
That would explain the vanishing attachments then possibly. I also have emails going missing...

mmm-five

11,280 posts

286 months

Monday 15th January
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MikeHo said:
As i understand it ........ if you email an attachment to LOADS of people or even forward one on then it stores it in OneDrive instead of actually shoving it in the email. The recipients then effectively get a link/access to the OneDrive file rather than filling up email servers. Not sure if this is dependent on whether the recipient has an MS account - probably is.
I think this is why they have now included the size of all your attachments in OneDrive as part of your email allowance.
No idea how that interacts with a BT email wobble
Our Outlook asks whether you want to send a copy of the file, or a link to the file.

I tend to send a copy, as I might keep changing the original file and I don't want others to have a WIP file.

bitchstewie

51,930 posts

212 months

Monday 15th January
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Louis Balfour said:
My desktop apps were all paid for, The MS online stuff is free.

Email is the default one provided with the BT Internet, plus we have multiple domains with Krystal.

You say what they have done with attachments - what have they done with them?
I'll predict the answer which is "everyone has it" but I always advise people don't tie yourself to ISP provided email addresses.

You're buggered if you ever leave BT Internet unless you pay them to keep the email and you're doubly buggered if they ever decide not to offer an email product.

Louis Balfour

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26,498 posts

224 months

Monday 15th January
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bhstewie said:
Louis Balfour said:
My desktop apps were all paid for, The MS online stuff is free.

Email is the default one provided with the BT Internet, plus we have multiple domains with Krystal.

You say what they have done with attachments - what have they done with them?
I'll predict the answer which is "everyone has it" but I always advise people don't tie yourself to ISP provided email addresses.

You're buggered if you ever leave BT Internet unless you pay them to keep the email and you're doubly buggered if they ever decide not to offer an email product.
We use the BT one as a recovery. Everything else is @Balfourco.com


Condi

17,336 posts

173 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Louis Balfour said:
. Microsoft wouldn't really do that would they, just like they wouldn't delete all my locally stored files.... oh wait....
They wouldn't, and can't.

However, it is very amusing you have bought an Apple and are still using Outlook.

More money than computer ability methinks....

Louis Balfour

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26,498 posts

224 months

Tuesday 16th January
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Condi said:
Louis Balfour said:
. Microsoft wouldn't really do that would they, just like they wouldn't delete all my locally stored files.... oh wait....
They wouldn't, and can't.

However, it is very amusing you have bought an Apple and are still using Outlook.

More money than computer ability methinks....
Oh but they would and they have. Google it.

If you read the thread (un-PH I know) you'll note that Outlook on Apple is temporary.

More money than computer ability? fk yeh, I'm minted. But even if I had a tenner to my name I'd still have more money than computer ability.

But thank you for your support, it means a lot.


Crippo

1,199 posts

222 months

Thursday 2nd May
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I happened upon this thread because I searched for Mac Mini as I’m thinking of getting a desktop machine for video editing.
But I got side tracked into reading a lot of the thread and I’m really surprised as I use MS Outlook, One Drive and Excel and also Edge for PDF displays and Internet and I must say it’s been 100% for the last 5 years. I pay for the subscription 365 which is about £70 a year and there is simply nothing about it I’d change.

anonymoususer

5,981 posts

50 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Crippo said:
I happened upon this thread because I searched for Mac Mini as I’m thinking of getting a desktop machine for video editing.
But I got side tracked into reading a lot of the thread and I’m really surprised as I use MS Outlook, One Drive and Excel and also Edge for PDF displays and Internet and I must say it’s been 100% for the last 5 years. I pay for the subscription 365 which is about £70 a year and there is simply nothing about it I’d change.
If it works for you that;'s great
Had it myself over 5 PVC's
Brother has it as it gives one for a mac and daughter at Uni uses it on her mac