Will this guy make it? 1700 miles in Searider

Will this guy make it? 1700 miles in Searider

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Bonefish Blues

26,996 posts

224 months

Wednesday 1st May
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hidetheelephants said:
No licence needed in the UK to be in charge of a boat under 24m long, but I'd recommend training.
This didn't register when I read it first time. I can jump on a nigh-80ft boat and take it out. I had no idea - it felt a bit daunting to be let loose up to Great Glen many years ago, never mind the high seas in a properly big boat. How do other countries regulate this (or don't?)

cherryowen

11,742 posts

205 months

Wednesday 1st May
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MartG said:
New episode just been posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMC1aQoM7WI
woohoo

hidetheelephants

24,791 posts

194 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Bonefish Blues said:
hidetheelephants said:
No licence needed in the UK to be in charge of a boat under 24m long, but I'd recommend training.
This didn't register when I read it first time. I can jump on a nigh-80ft boat and take it out. I had no idea - it felt a bit daunting to be let loose up to Great Glen many years ago, never mind the high seas in a properly big boat. How do other countries regulate this (or don't?)
I've no idea what insurers say on the subject but the law says "fill your boots". Most countries do require licences, training etc., UK boating is a libertarian paradise but the stats say there aren't more accidents here than in more heavily regulated states.

Mars

8,754 posts

215 months

Thursday 2nd May
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hidetheelephants said:
Bonefish Blues said:
hidetheelephants said:
No licence needed in the UK to be in charge of a boat under 24m long, but I'd recommend training.
This didn't register when I read it first time. I can jump on a nigh-80ft boat and take it out. I had no idea - it felt a bit daunting to be let loose up to Great Glen many years ago, never mind the high seas in a properly big boat. How do other countries regulate this (or don't?)
I've no idea what insurers say on the subject but the law says "fill your boots". Most countries do require licences, training etc., UK boating is a libertarian paradise but the stats say there aren't more accidents here than in more heavily regulated states.
This was absolutely amazing to me when I first went out for a spin in my brother's 6m RIB, out of Salcombe. There's a narrow (ish) channel leading to the sea, which is marked by red and green beacons (?) between which you're suppose to stay to avoid the rocks. You just have to know this - which of course (then) I didn't (my brother did). In the summer, this channel is quite busy, and yet the professionals and amateurs seem to navigate it all without conflict on the days I've been witness to it anyway. I wondered then how many people winged it vs those who had been formally introduced to boating.

My brother had a radio on his RIB but we never used it, and I'm not even sure he knew how to, or when to.

I note Harry does use his radio often when coming into harbours. In fact, his sea-knowledge seems perfectly adequate and has kept him out of any trouble.

If I bought a boat, I'd certainly take a few lessons. To my mind there's such a huge opportunity for my getting into trouble. The learning curve when you're introduced to something new is always steep, and I'm certain you could flatten that curve really quickly by listening to someone who knows what they're talking about.

akirk

5,406 posts

115 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Two or three weekends would give you a very good introduction to driving a boat…

The colours of lights etc are all covered in the COLREGS which is basically the Highway Code of the sea - and which is mandatory not advisory https://www.rya.org.uk/blog/do-you-know-your-colre...

A lot of people who buy boats will have had experience while growing up but there are those who are new to it and have the money to buy a powerful boat - some get into trouble because they think it looks easy / don’t understand that it is worth learning / ‘no licence is needed’ but fortunately the majority at least take a basic RYA course.

Radio - not to be used without a radio licence which you get after a day long course

ecsrobin

17,209 posts

166 months

Thursday 2nd May
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akirk said:
Radio - not to be used without a radio licence which you get after a day long course
Except in an emergency.

PlywoodPascal

4,296 posts

22 months

Thursday 2nd May
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hidetheelephants said:
I've no idea what insurers say on the subject but the law says "fill your boots". Most countries do require licences, training etc., UK boating is a libertarian paradise but the stats say there aren't more accidents here than in more heavily regulated states.
It’s cos we’re a natural seafaring nation, it’s in our salty blood.

PlywoodPascal

4,296 posts

22 months

Thursday 2nd May
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ecsrobin said:
akirk said:
Radio - not to be used without a radio licence which you get after a day long course
Except in an emergency.
Like if you really need to hear the test match score, or know who is no 1 this week?

akirk

5,406 posts

115 months

Thursday 2nd May
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ecsrobin said:
akirk said:
Radio - not to be used without a radio licence which you get after a day long course
Except in an emergency.
Technically true but anyone going out to sea without the basics of getting a radio licence is naive at best / irresponsible more likely / criminal at worst…


ecsrobin

17,209 posts

166 months

Thursday 2nd May
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akirk said:
Technically true but anyone going out to sea without the basics of getting a radio licence is naive at best / irresponsible more likely / criminal at worst…
A bit of a stretch there, I suspect there are plenty of sailors far more experienced than us that don’t have a licence yet operate them in a professional manner. Then of course you’ve got the fishing crews that like to have a full blown conversations on channels, or when England are playing suddenly all cheer down the radios, all people that should know better as licence holders.

You’re also forgetting that the skipper might have a licence but requires a guest/crew without a licence to operate it due to dealing with the emergency.

Huntsman

8,083 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Way back in episode 1 it looked like he was a dead cert for a watery death, it now looks like he's going to actually make it!

thegreenhell

15,555 posts

220 months

Thursday 2nd May
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It was interesting seeing him access the radar and thermal camera on his phone as they were driving up the motorway. Clever stuff.

ecsrobin

17,209 posts

166 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Huntsman said:
Way back in episode 1 it looked like he was a dead cert for a watery death, it now looks like he's going to actually make it!
Agreed. I believe one of the early videos was him doing some training which I believe was before he set off but it doesn’t make up for experience which has shown through all the episodes as it grows.

J3JCV

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1,251 posts

156 months

Friday 3rd May
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ecsrobin said:
Huntsman said:
Way back in episode 1 it looked like he was a dead cert for a watery death, it now looks like he's going to actually make it!
Agreed. I believe one of the early videos was him doing some training which I believe was before he set off but it doesn’t make up for experience which has shown through all the episodes as it grows.
This was exactly my thought when I watched the 1st episode and posted here, I was horrified and worried - the rest is (a costly) history.

He has the right attitude to be good at sea, mindful of dangers, asks a lot of questions and comes to critical decisions quickly. Top bloke really.

akirk

5,406 posts

115 months

Friday 3rd May
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ecsrobin said:
akirk said:
Technically true but anyone going out to sea without the basics of getting a radio licence is naive at best / irresponsible more likely / criminal at worst…
A bit of a stretch there, I suspect there are plenty of sailors far more experienced than us that don’t have a licence yet operate them in a professional manner. Then of course you’ve got the fishing crews that like to have a full blown conversations on channels, or when England are playing suddenly all cheer down the radios, all people that should know better as licence holders.

You’re also forgetting that the skipper might have a licence but requires a guest/crew without a licence to operate it due to dealing with the emergency.
I am forgetting none of that smile
Doesn’t change a thing - if you are going boating, get a radio and learn to use it properly- it might be the difference between coming back or not.

StephenP

1,887 posts

211 months

Saturday 11th May
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Harry's made good progress over the last few days, getting to Newcastle. I wonder if he got some good footage of the northern lights?

outnumbered

4,104 posts

235 months

Saturday 11th May
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StephenP said:
Harry's made good progress over the last few days, getting to Newcastle. I wonder if he got some good footage of the northern lights?
That would be cool.

I wonder if he's pushing to finish off the journey this year ? I think I might actually go up to London and cheer him back if there was any advance warning smile

J3JCV

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1,251 posts

156 months

Saturday 11th May
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outnumbered said:
That would be cool.

I wonder if he's pushing to finish off the journey this year ? I think I might actually go up to London and cheer him back if there was any advance warning smile
This needs to happen! There are great flotilla moments when racers return to port, I would love to see this up the Thames.

RobbyJ

1,576 posts

223 months

Saturday 11th May
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I really really want to do this too, would love to follow him in.

Louis Balfour

26,448 posts

223 months

Saturday 11th May
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J3JCV said:
outnumbered said:
That would be cool.

I wonder if he's pushing to finish off the journey this year ? I think I might actually go up to London and cheer him back if there was any advance warning smile
This needs to happen! There are great flotilla moments when racers return to port, I would love to see this up the Thames.
Video releases have slowed down since COVID and him doing the picturesque parts of Britain. I predicted that the grim North would present a challenge. I have not watched this once, but plan to this evening.